War with Iran Part II

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Anonymous wrote:How can one man not only dissolve our reputation and constitution but also upend the entire planet


Because Congress won’t do its job. Mike Johnson might be the weeniest weenie man in Washington, which is quite an accomplishment.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants a cut of the toll money.


He was on board with toll booth idea as long as it was crypto- but when kushner got wind of iran charging in their own currency (not petroleum dollar, not crypto), he walked out and threw a fit. Now it’s unacceptable because trumps can’t profit.


It's the other way around. Iran changed it after we walked away. They were willing to play ball and do what it takes.
Anonymous
Bet a lot of republicans will cash in on this market disruption!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How can one man not only dissolve our reputation and constitution but also upend the entire planet


Because he can. Because the GOP aids and abets him. We have become the world’s bully.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants a cut of the toll money.


He was on board with toll booth idea as long as it was crypto- but when kushner got wind of iran charging in their own currency (not petroleum dollar, not crypto), he walked out and threw a fit. Now it’s unacceptable because trumps can’t profit.


It's the other way around. Iran changed it after we walked away. They were willing to play ball and do what it takes.


Give proof. Both of you.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe negotiations would go better if the President's son in law wasn't the one doing the negotiating.


It is noted that Iran wants the strait tolls paid in their currency now, rials, not crypto. This was a sticking point for trump and kushner, who profit from crypto.
These Iranians are smart.


Maybe they are smart, certainly the Americans have been unbelievably DUMB. Dangerously dumb. Absolutely shockingly dumb.


It’s fine for the US to close Cuba’s and Venezuela’s waters, and it’s fine for Israel to close Gaza’s waters, but if Iran blocks the countries that waged war against it from the Strait Of Hormuz, that’s unacceptable?


TO BE CLEAR: Iran closed the strait to many countries that had absolutely nothing to do with this war. Made it unsafe to transit, due to mines that they placed irresponsibly and lost track of. Caused shipping interests to lose insurance coverage. And is now trying to extort heavy tolls while having provided nothing in return other than safe passage, like the Mafia. They are waging economic warfare on countries that did nothing to them.


Were they doing this before the war? No.

This is ALL TRUMP'S FAULT


YES.
It's Trump's fault for starting this war.
BUT
It's Iran's fault for taking it out on everyone else. That was 100% THEIR choice. They did not have to do that.

Iran is not blameless. Absolutely not. To try and peddle any claim otherwise is a straight up lie.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants a cut of the toll money.


Absolutely.

Now countries in Europe and Asia will have to pay a double toll. They are frantically calling the White House right about now.
Everyone is furious at Trump.

Let's take bets on how long this goes until he TACOs.


They didn't see fit to put any pressure at all on Iran for the first toll, that makes it pretty hard to find sympathy for them.
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I'm still trying to understand what's in it for American taxpayers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants a cut of the toll money.


He was on board with toll booth idea as long as it was crypto- but when kushner got wind of iran charging in their own currency (not petroleum dollar, not crypto), he walked out and threw a fit. Now it’s unacceptable because trumps can’t profit.


1. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-2026-trump-deadline-latest-news/card/iran-is-using-crypto-to-charge-hormuz-toll-fees-
stsQNwpS92LfTybTgmyx

2. https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/insight/iran-pushes-rial-toll-plan-for-hormuz-despite-us-warning/gm-GMBEB183C7?gemSnapshotKey=GMBEB183C7-snapshot-1&uxmode=ruby
Anonymous
It was kind of a scam it was basically so the us could get the new aircraft carrier in place refuel and get all the military Marines everything ready to go for round two the final round or ran no longer exists
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:How can one man not only dissolve our reputation and constitution but also upend the entire planet


Because Congress won’t do its job. Mike Johnson might be the weeniest weenie man in Washington, which is quite an accomplishment.


This.
And so weird to see the photos of Vance smiling after his epic failure to accomplish anything.
Anonymous
This is such a bizarre situation. It seems like the root of the problem is that both Iran and the US believe they've "won", and can unilaterally dictate terms to the other. The US has the upper hand in conventional military terms; Iran has the upper hand in economic blackmail terms.
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Why would anyone agree that Iran get nuclear weapons
Anonymous
Why is Kushner involved at all? He has no political or government experience. He was unelected. Trump is still controlled by him? Incredible
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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone agree that Iran get nuclear weapons

Pakistan has nuclear weapons and that’s where bin Laden supposedly was hiding out.

Iran should get nuclear weapons for one reason: to balance Israel’s illegal nuclear stockpile. Israel unlike Iran or America has not signed treaties vowing non use or allowed inspections
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