Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but most/all of the trial so far has been him putting on his affirmative case? So everything so far is the best evidence he has to show that he should win the case, and most of her strongest evidence (except whatever comes up from her cross of his witnesses) hasn't come in so far?

If that's correct, I don't think he's in a good place.

This is correct. You also have to remember because he's suing Heard for defamation, evidence of her being abusive back doesn't save his case as long as the jury believes he also abused her.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

My brother is an entertainment attorney in LA. He's finished. He can't get insurance and nobody will step in to cover for him because he aired the dirty laundry and upset too many people in the industry. He's a huge liability and hasn't been making enough money for the studio in a while.

He can work in Europe. He can work with some new or obscure directors, which was his preference any way.
The biggest challenge will be to keep his own ego in check.

Nobody will hire him in Europe either. There's a huge bias against American actors and a big push to promote EE and Asian films - look at the Cannes' awards for the last decade. In addition, the European movies get their finance from governments, for example from the National Film Fund of Sweden, and the film commissioners who find the funds are government employees. There are zero funds going to American actors.

You're still using American logic for European approach to funding. Since making money off him is not a goal, he can still shoot there and have a good life.

I know you're desperate to believe your POV, but you're making zero sense. The European model is sponsored by the European governments, so there are no jobs there for him. The US model is NOT sponsored by the government and is revenue driven. I'm European.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something, or should he be set up for life from the tremendous amount of money he has made as an actor since the late 1980's? He has clearly spent a lot.

It seemed like he was fine before he got involved with her. Sure, he was drinking and doing drugs, but it doesn't seem to have openly affected his life or ability to be employed.

Then he and his partner of 14 years split, he turns to his 22 year-old Rum Diary co-star whom he kissed after hours during the filming, and all hell breaks loose. He goes from what appeared to be a fairly stable family life to partying with a histrionic 22-year old with borderline personality disorder and her group 20 year-old unemployed friends in his LA penthouse. It sounds like she did almost as many substances and drank as much as he did. They did not mix well, he probably realized what he had lost and became determined to stick it out, and he spiraled out of control with her crazy sh!t.

Her story and his story about the finger are vastly different. I tend to think he did not cut off his own finger because being a musician/guitar player was his first calling, he'd been playing since age 12, and that was his dominant hand.

He's broke, he had a cash outflow of 2MM/week before the trial, so now it's even higher. He tried to sue TMG for $50MM in 2017 and had to settle for a fraction of that.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope she’s fired by Marvel or whoever produces Aquaman. If a man had been recorded saying the things she’s said, they’d be gone by now.

Yeah you and every other red piller. Johnny Depps career isn’t toast because of the allegations. He continued to her role after role despite a growing list of issues on sets. Eventually he started closing studios more than he was making them. I guarantee if he cleaned up and laid low for awhile he’d be back in movies bY 2025. He got a million chances because of who he is.

Amber still has her jobs because she’s never shown up to set late and drunk. And never cost her studios millions of dollars in delays. Never no showed, showed up hours late. She did her job. His career has suffered because he stopped doing his job. And that cost people money. And that is all people really care about in movie making.

Louis CK, just won a Grammy.
Mel Gibson, still in movies
Ezra Miller, not yet fired
Shia Labeouf, still in movies
Arnie Hammer, some rehab stint before he likely comes back to movies

People don’t get permanently cancelled if they can keep their sh*t together enough to keep making studios money. Johnny Depp’s career is sitting right there waiting for the moment he lets this go and goes to spend a few months in some cushy celebrity rehab.

Yeah, I agree with this. Louis CK winning a grammy this year was the icing on the cake for me. (I used to love him but wtf.) Unless you're an Epstein you will get chance after chance when you're a male. It's totally ridiculous.

That said, I don't think this trial has been kind to Depp. I am an average person who would watch his movies when they looked good, not a huge fan or anything, but I did like the first Pirates movie. I didn't know he was such a drug/alcohol addict or was so out of it for so much of his career, and I've lost respect for him. I don't like his demeanor at trial -- he seems like he really hates her and wants to hurt her. I didn't know anything about Amber Heard and she doesn't look great either, but I don't really care about her, anyway -- like, I was never going to see a movie just because she was in it to start with, right?

This all makes me really tired of men and their sh!t. She wrote a newspaper article complaining about men and their sh!t and he hates her so much he had to sue her about it when she didn't even mention his name? The imbalance of power is incredible. I hope he has to pay her attorneys fees.

Amber’s found the thread.

There is like, an extra special crazy flavor of poster that starts to believe that an actual celebrity is on DCUM. They are bizarrely hateful towards women, and seem to come out specifically like...Chrissy Tiegan, Meghan Markle, Hilaria Baldwin and here Amber Heard!

Once you're accusing someone of being a celebrity, you've gone far off the obsessed with celebrity gossip deep end.

It was a joke. I was comparing you to Amber. I’m a radical feminist, btw, and if the women you’ve listed are your gold standard…we’ll, bless you.

You can support women’s rights without engaging in misandry.

Have a nice day.

*well

HAHAHA. You're a radical feminist? What does that mean to you out of curiosity?

I don't hate men! I just hate women who hate other women. Pretty telling you seem to hate every single one of those women too (I don't think any of them are entirely without fault, or worship them or anything, I just see them as humans). I also hate men who abuse women, or who jerk off onto them behind plants, or who treat them like meat...and I don't have that high of an opinion of men who leave the mother of their children to do a bunch of drugs with a 20 year old and then complain she ruined his career and life.

You again! Calm down.

Hard for me to imagine a RADICAL FEMINIST telling a woman to call down. How is your mom's meatloaf today Steve?

That was a different poster. You are super angry and bitter. Get some help.

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This witness, Romero, is fed up with this all!

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Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something, or should he be set up for life from the tremendous amount of money he has made as an actor since the late 1980's? He has clearly spent a lot.

It seemed like he was fine before he got involved with her. Sure, he was drinking and doing drugs, but it doesn't seem to have openly affected his life or ability to be employed.

Then he and his partner of 14 years split, he turns to his 22 year-old Rum Diary co-star whom he kissed after hours during the filming, and all hell breaks loose. He goes from what appeared to be a fairly stable family life to partying with a histrionic 22-year old with borderline personality disorder and her group 20 year-old unemployed friends in his LA penthouse. It sounds like she did almost as many substances and drank as much as he did. They did not mix well, he probably realized what he had lost and became determined to stick it out, and he spiraled out of control with her crazy sh!t.

Her story and his story about the finger are vastly different. I tend to think he did not cut off his own finger because being a musician/guitar player was his first calling, he'd been playing since age 12, and that was his dominant hand.

I mean, he totally admits that he then wrote all over the walls with his blood etc with that finger, so it's not like he was a normal person in his right mind thinking clearly. I don't have a problem believing he cut of his own fingertip while on drugs etc.

Purposefully cutting off your own finger would be a pretty extreme act, even under the influence of drugs and alcohol. I tend to believe the vodka bottle story at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:This witness, Romero, is fed up with this all!

The witness started driving!!

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i think he was smoking and driving!!

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

My brother is an entertainment attorney in LA. He's finished. He can't get insurance and nobody will step in to cover for him because he aired the dirty laundry and upset too many people in the industry. He's a huge liability and hasn't been making enough money for the studio in a while.

Can you explain what this insurance is, and why he can't get it?

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

My brother is an entertainment attorney in LA. He's finished. He can't get insurance and nobody will step in to cover for him because he aired the dirty laundry and upset too many people in the industry. He's a huge liability and hasn't been making enough money for the studio in a while.

Can you explain what this insurance is, and why he can't get it?

DP. Making movies is incredibly expensive. INCREDIBLY expensive. Most movie production sets are insured so say, they lost a month of filming to a hurricane, the studio isn't totally out. Almost all big actors get insurance because its incredibly expensive if something happens to an actor mid film. Like say, they injure their finger and shut down production for four weeks.

These insurance companies evaluate movie projects the same way your car insurance evaluates you. Johnny Depp is like a 22 year old boy with 5 DUIs. They won't insure him to drive.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

When was the last redemption story of someone at his age? Hollywood is youth obsessed. He’s a bloated old man in his late 50s. He’s not RDJ getting over a drug habit in his 20s. He’s a man that was on the tail end of his career who happened to cheat with the wrong crazy at that time. I will never understand why he is pursuing a legal action he can’t win. All of this just continues to force him to be connected to this woman he claims he hates.

First of all, if he cleaned up he’d likely lose some of the weight and bloat. He still has amazing bone structure. Most importantly he is a talented actor. He’s never needed youthful roles to display that talent as he always shied away from leading man roles. One of his best performances was under a bunch of aging prosthetics. He doesn’t need to be Iron Man (those movies were never his bag) and he doesn’t need to be Channing Tatum. He needs a great performance in an acclaimed movie, which is not likely to be a Hollywood blockbuster with lots of explosions and marvel characters anyway. And he is capable of it.

There’s a huge middle ground between “unemployable” and “biggest leading man in Hollywood”. He never wanted the latter in the first place. Jack Sparrow was double-edged for him. It might not ever reach those heights again but he can have a career. Mel Gibson still work, for Christ’s sake. He may not be Lethal Weapon anymore but he can work.

Puh-leeaze. He’s not that talented. You’re acting like he was Daniel Day Lewis. He was doing big budget fluff films because he’s not that talented. Mel Gibson had an academy award for best director 10+ years before he was exposed as a POS and his comeback came in making his own movies. Johnny can’t do that because he is not that talented.

Johnny Depp had Brad Pitt level fame/recognition. And hey, Brad Pitt had a nasty episode with alcohol and his family and a prolonged divorce case where the public sentiment was against his ex wife.

Brad Pitt is fine, back to being america's sweetheart, given his second chance (third if you count the aniston debacle), and riding high off a great cameo in a big film and running his own production studio. Despite that family situation appearing quite bad still.

Brad Pitt doesn't cost studios money, he makes them. Brad Pitt tried to keep it all as private as possible and used the press in strategic and calculated ways to influence public opinion. Brad Pitt was never so out of control that there were a bunch of videos of him raging, or absolutely trashed hotel rooms, to fill the papers with.

Depp might not have been oscar talented, but he was/is VERY VERY famous. He is the type of name that gets people to go to the movies, which is type of movie star that is not as common as it was in the 90s/00s. He was a Tim Burton muse and Pirates should have set him up for life and was then even given an in into the Potter franchise to help him recoup all the Pirates money he had blown on drugs.

1. Brad Pitt still looks good and his substance issues never interfered with his work to the extent that Johnny Depp’s did
2. Johnny Depp WAS a box office draw. But who is his fan base now?
3. Does Brad Pitt really star in anything anymore? He seems like it’s pretty much all supporting roles. And he wisely expanded into other ventures, namely producing great films like Moonlight and 12 years a slave, which allows aging actors to maintain relevance and network.

But I do agree that had Johnny Depp not dragged out this whole thing with Amber people would have forgotten it. Every time
He sues her it literally just reminds people of what she said.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

When was the last redemption story of someone at his age? Hollywood is youth obsessed. He’s a bloated old man in his late 50s. He’s not RDJ getting over a drug habit in his 20s. He’s a man that was on the tail end of his career who happened to cheat with the wrong crazy at that time. I will never understand why he is pursuing a legal action he can’t win. All of this just continues to force him to be connected to this woman he claims he hates.

His reputation is in the gutter so I believe that even if he can’t win, he is taking her reputation down with him. And if she is as crazy as she looks, it’s a good strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:i think he was smoking and driving!!

Smoking, driving, while being a witness on a video call?!
And why they didn't use court interpreter?

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

My brother is an entertainment attorney in LA. He's finished. He can't get insurance and nobody will step in to cover for him because he aired the dirty laundry and upset too many people in the industry. He's a huge liability and hasn't been making enough money for the studio in a while.

He can work in Europe. He can work with some new or obscure directors, which was his preference any way.
The biggest challenge will be to keep his own ego in check.

Nobody will hire him in Europe either. There's a huge bias against American actors and a big push to promote EE and Asian films - look at the Cannes' awards for the last decade. In addition, the European movies get their finance from governments, for example from the National Film Fund of Sweden, and the film commissioners who find the funds are government employees. There are zero funds going to American actors.

You're still using American logic for European approach to funding. Since making money off him is not a goal, he can still shoot there and have a good life.

I know you're desperate to believe your POV, but you're making zero sense. The European model is sponsored by the European governments, so there are no jobs there for him. The US model is NOT sponsored by the government and is revenue driven. I'm European.

He just needs to find a director that would get money from the government for his artistic project. I'm European as well.

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For those of us not watching what are you talking about re a witness driving. Who is he? What is his role?