Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?

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Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

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Arlington is going with 2 days a week for the fall. Mondays at home for all students with distance learning. MCPS will not be able to have full-time in person school. I would like them to follow the FCPS plan and give parents a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington is going with 2 days a week for the fall. Mondays at home for all students with distance learning. MCPS will not be able to have full-time in person school. I would like them to follow the FCPS plan and give parents a choice.

MCPS would, if MCPS wanted to.

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Anonymous wrote:Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

You mean we shouldn't tell others that they are "crazy" and "ridiculous" for thinking that schools should be a higher priority than commercial businesses such as hair salons and bars?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the idea that public school is some kind of nom-essential luxury that parents wrongly think of as an entitlement is...something. It's one of THE major universal institutions in all modern first world countries. And it IS an entitlement! It's not a luxury, everyone pays taxes because children, NOT their parents, are ENTITLED to an education. It is a right of residence and a key institution of social reproduction.

Now, whether and how much schooling happens in person during a pandemic is more of a logistical question, I'm not saying therefore we have to go back 5 days a week. But the whole framing that school is NOT essential and that it's selfish of PARENTS to want it is one I strongly reject. With lots of caps.

Well said. The PP who thinks public school is a non-essential privilege embodies everything that's wrong with America.

That was me and I never said any of that. I said that children do not need to be in school buildings full time-it is not essential. You can argue that it is difficult for working families to plan around a hybrid, but that doesn’t change the current public health landscape. There were 40,000 new cases of COVID in the United States yesterday. The situation is extremely out of control. Remember whose fault this is in September-Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Mike Pence, Greg Abbot, and Doug Ducey. But sure! Blame teachers and public schools, they’re the real enemy.

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Anonymous wrote:Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

You mean we shouldn't tell others that they are "crazy" and "ridiculous" for thinking that schools should be a higher priority than commercial businesses such as hair salons and bars?

You know who cares most about those things? People who own hair salons and bars. It isn’t teachers who are pushing hair salons to open.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the idea that public school is some kind of nom-essential luxury that parents wrongly think of as an entitlement is...something. It's one of THE major universal institutions in all modern first world countries. And it IS an entitlement! It's not a luxury, everyone pays taxes because children, NOT their parents, are ENTITLED to an education. It is a right of residence and a key institution of social reproduction.

Now, whether and how much schooling happens in person during a pandemic is more of a logistical question, I'm not saying therefore we have to go back 5 days a week. But the whole framing that school is NOT essential and that it's selfish of PARENTS to want it is one I strongly reject. With lots of caps.

Well said. The PP who thinks public school is a non-essential privilege embodies everything that's wrong with America.

That was me and I never said any of that. I said that children do not need to be in school buildings full time-it is not essential. You can argue that it is difficult for working families to plan around a hybrid, but that doesn’t change the current public health landscape. There were 40,000 new cases of COVID in the United States yesterday. The situation is extremely out of control. Remember whose fault this is in September-Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Mike Pence, Greg Abbot, and Doug Ducey. But sure! Blame teachers and public schools, they’re the real enemy.

We're not in Arizona, Texas, or Florida. We're in Montgomery County, Maryland. In Montgomery County, Maryland, the current daily increase in number of cases is <0.6%.

Also, I'm not blaming anybody. All I'm saying is that school is an essential function (actual school, not Zoom lectures and on-line worksheets) and that if we made school a priority, instead of [all the other things we've apparently decided are more important than schools], then nobody would question the idea of kids being in school in the fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

You mean we shouldn't tell others that they are "crazy" and "ridiculous" for thinking that schools should be a higher priority than commercial businesses such as hair salons and bars?

You know who cares most about those things? People who own hair salons and bars. It isn’t teachers who are pushing hair salons to open.

Maybe there are teachers who are saying, "Don't open the hair salons and bars, do open the schools!"? I hope so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

You mean we shouldn't tell others that they are "crazy" and "ridiculous" for thinking that schools should be a higher priority than commercial businesses such as hair salons and bars?

You know who cares most about those things? People who own hair salons and bars. It isn’t teachers who are pushing hair salons to open.

Maybe there are teachers who are saying, "Don't open the hair salons and bars, do open the schools!"? I hope so.

There is no world where it isn’t safe to get a haircut but having thirty kids packed in a small room is totally cool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

You mean we shouldn't tell others that they are "crazy" and "ridiculous" for thinking that schools should be a higher priority than commercial businesses such as hair salons and bars?

You know who cares most about those things? People who own hair salons and bars. It isn’t teachers who are pushing hair salons to open.

Maybe there are teachers who are saying, "Don't open the hair salons and bars, do open the schools!"? I hope so.

There is no world where it isn’t safe to get a haircut but having thirty kids packed in a small room is totally cool.

That's just not true. Having 30 kids in a small room is totally cool - and safe - if community spread is minimal or even non-existent. And how do you get community spread to be minimal or even non-existent?

1. Limit non-school opportunities for community spread.
2. Test and trace contacts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

You mean we shouldn't tell others that they are "crazy" and "ridiculous" for thinking that schools should be a higher priority than commercial businesses such as hair salons and bars?

You know who cares most about those things? People who own hair salons and bars. It isn’t teachers who are pushing hair salons to open.

Maybe there are teachers who are saying, "Don't open the hair salons and bars, do open the schools!"? I hope so.

There is no world where it isn’t safe to get a haircut but having thirty kids packed in a small room is totally cool.

That's just not true. Having 30 kids in a small room is totally cool - and safe - if community spread is minimal or even non-existent. And how do you get community spread to be minimal or even non-existent?

1. Limit non-school opportunities for community spread.
2. Test and trace contacts.

Once again, school is not the ONLY priority for any government official. You’re delusional if you think there will be a large push to close everything down for the summer so that schools have a better chance to open at full capacity in the fall.
You are also wrong to state that having two adults in a room, wearing masks, with one cutting the other’s hair, is riskier than packing a school. Just totally false. You can say whatever you want, but that doesn’t make it true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

You mean we shouldn't tell others that they are "crazy" and "ridiculous" for thinking that schools should be a higher priority than commercial businesses such as hair salons and bars?

You know who cares most about those things? People who own hair salons and bars. It isn’t teachers who are pushing hair salons to open.

Maybe there are teachers who are saying, "Don't open the hair salons and bars, do open the schools!"? I hope so.

There is no world where it isn’t safe to get a haircut but having thirty kids packed in a small room is totally cool.

That's just not true. Having 30 kids in a small room is totally cool - and safe - if community spread is minimal or even non-existent. And how do you get community spread to be minimal or even non-existent?

1. Limit non-school opportunities for community spread.
2. Test and trace contacts.

Once again, school is not the ONLY priority for any government official. You’re delusional if you think there will be a large push to close everything down for the summer so that schools have a better chance to open at full capacity in the fall.
You are also wrong to state that having two adults in a room, wearing masks, with one cutting the other’s hair, is riskier than packing a school. Just totally false. You can say whatever you want, but that doesn’t make it true.

Obviously school isn't the only priority for the government officials - or even a high priority. Unfortunately.

If you think there's no risk for spreading covid from hair salons, then great. Schools and hair salons can be open.

[Anonymous]

Ok so no one is closing the schools forever and letting the kids run around like feral cats. We are in the middle of a once in a hundred year event. Everything is gonna be suboptimal. If the kids have one crappy year of school they will be ok. Guess what, they're all having a crappy year of school. No one is getting ahead of your little Larla. If you want to yell about what should and shouldn't be open, go ahead but you are tilting at windmills. BTW death IS forever so yeah. We'll get through this. We will be ok. They don't need THAT many sign spinners on Rockville Pike so someone will ultimately hire Larla.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok so no one is closing the schools forever and letting the kids run around like feral cats. We are in the middle of a once in a hundred year event. Everything is gonna be suboptimal. If the kids have one crappy year of school they will be ok. Guess what, they're all having a crappy year of school. No one is getting ahead of your little Larla. If you want to yell about what should and shouldn't be open, go ahead but you are tilting at windmills. BTW death IS forever so yeah. We'll get through this. We will be ok. They don't need THAT many sign spinners on Rockville Pike so someone will ultimately hire Larla.

Well, most kids will be ok, in the long run. That's a very low bar, though. And some kids will be not even ok, not in the short run, not in the long run.

If your goal is to avoid all covid deaths, then you need to shut everything down. But we're not doing that. So yeah.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Each one of us contributes to making this a civilized discussion. Let’s take care not to put words into other people’s mouths or tell them they are everything wrong with America. We need to find solutions, not bicker.

You mean we shouldn't tell others that they are "crazy" and "ridiculous" for thinking that schools should be a higher priority than commercial businesses such as hair salons and bars?

You know who cares most about those things? People who own hair salons and bars. It isn’t teachers who are pushing hair salons to open.

Maybe there are teachers who are saying, "Don't open the hair salons and bars, do open the schools!"? I hope so.

YES!! Me!! I’m an elementary teacher and we should be going back to full time school for Kids kindergarten through 4th grade