To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
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Anonymous
1.Harvard, Stanford 3.MIT, Princeton 5.Columbia, Yale 7. U Chicago, Caltech, Upenn 10. Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, John's Hopkins 15. Cornell, Vanderbilt, Williams, Amherst 19. Emory, WashU, Rice, Notre Dame, Georgetown, CMU 25. UCLA, UCB, Michigan, Pomona 28. Gatech, UVA, Tufts, Bowdoin, Wellesley Forgot to quote this list someone came up. USC belongs to the list of 25. CMU needs to step down to 25. as well as Georgetown to 25 |
Anonymous
Forgot to quote this list someone came up. USC belongs to the list of 25. CMU needs to step down to 25. as well as Georgetown to 25 1.Harvard, Stanford, MIT 4.Princeton, Yale 7. Columbia, Caltech, Upenn 10. UChicago, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Hopkins 16. Cornell, Vanderbilt, Williams, Amherst 20. Emory, WashU, Rice, Notre Dame 24. UCLA, UCB, Michigan, Pomona, Swarthmore, Georgetown, CMU 31. Gatech, UVA, Tufts, USC |
Anonymous
as well as Georgetown to 25 1.Harvard, Stanford, MIT 4.Princeton, Yale 7. Columbia, Caltech, Upenn 10. UChicago, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Hopkins 16. Cornell, Vanderbilt, Williams, Amherst 20. Emory, WashU, Rice, Notre Dame 24. UCLA, UCB, Michigan, Pomona, Swarthmore, Georgetown, CMU 31. Gatech, UVA, Tufts, USC For which major? That is what matters most. |
Anonymous
1.Harvard, Stanford, MIT 4.Princeton, Yale 7. Columbia, Caltech, Upenn 10. UChicago, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Hopkins 16. Cornell, Vanderbilt, Williams, Amherst 20. Emory, WashU, Rice, Notre Dame 24. UCLA, UCB, Michigan, Pomona, Swarthmore, Georgetown, CMU 31. Gatech, UVA, Tufts, USC For which major? That is what matters most. Elites: 1. Harvard 2. Stanford 3. Yale 4. MIT 5. Princeton 6. Columbia 7. Caltech 8. UPenn 9. UChicago 10. Duke 11. Dartmouth 12. Northwestern 13. Brown 14. Hopkins 15. Cornell 16. Berkeley 17. Williams 18. Amherst 19. Pomona 20. Swarthmore 15 Privates [Cornell has both private and public colleges but for the purposes here considering them a private] 1 Public 4 Liberal Arts |
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The Elites:
1. Harvard 2. Stanford 3. Yale 4. MIT 5. Princeton 6. Columbia 7. Caltech 8. UPenn 9. UChicago 10. Northwestern 11. Hopkins 12. Duke 13. Brown 14. Cornell 15. Dartmouth 16. Berkeley 17. Williams 18. Amherst These are the only schools that have a credible claim for being elite. UCLA gets an honorary mention for its sheer mass appeal, and Georgetown and NYU get a footnote because they're popular brands internationally. |
Anonymous
No. The Service Academies, Rice, Pomona, Strike Berkeley, etc. Many would differ in their assessment. Once you open this up to more than a few schools, that is inevitable because it is subjective. |
Anonymous
Yes to Navy and West Point, no to Rice and Pomona. Yes to Berkeley. |
Anonymous
The Elites: 1. Harvard 2. Stanford 3. Yale 4. MIT 5. Princeton 6. Columbia 7. Caltech 8. UPenn 9. UChicago 10. Northwestern 11. Duke 12. Hopkins 13. Dartmouth 14. Brown 15. Cornell 16. Berkeley 17. Williams 18. Amherst 19. Navy 20. West Point All 20 are clearly Elite Institutions. |
Anonymous
Can agree with this. |
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My DD and her 5 friends that she made this year in college are all National Merit scholars coming from different parts of the United States. Their group also includes three additional students from other countries. This isn’t a special “honors dorm.” It’s the students on her dorm floor. And it’s not Harvard. The school is University of Florida.
It’s recently moved up in the rankings to a Top 5 Public. These kids are smart, intelligent, well-rounded and they are loving their college experience. Lots of these posters are basing their opinion on schools reputations from 30 years ago. It’s much more difficult for a school to move up in the ranks compared to a school that was ranked high 30 years ago and is living off of alumni children and prior rep. |
Anonymous
| Can someone explain what makes Williams and Amherst more elite than Swarthmore and Pomona, to the point of being several tiers over? I am looking at several rankings (including national ones) and I see them all clustered in the same general area with no clear consensus on the best. Swarthmore and Pomona have the lowest acceptance rates, and are the most diverse LACs as well. |
Anonymous
For which major? That is what matters most. Elites: 1. Harvard 2. Stanford 3. Yale 4. MIT 5. Princeton 6. Columbia 7. Caltech 8. UPenn 9. UChicago 10. Duke 11. Dartmouth 12. Northwestern 13. Brown 14. Hopkins 15. Cornell 16. Berkeley 17. Williams 18. Amherst 19. Pomona 20. Swarthmore 15 Privates [Cornell has both private and public colleges but for the purposes here considering them a private] 1 Public 4 Liberal Arts Did you go to Berkeley? It doesn't belong there LOL |
Anonymous
| Norte Dame is not an elite school. It’s an over-hyped school thanks to its alumni and its football program. |
Anonymous
Got rejected? It's a T20 school in almost all of the repected ranking system. |
Anonymous
No one will be able to explain this, but I agree with you. To me, given the question from the OP - what are the "bottom" of the elites, it includes UCLA, Cal and Michigan from the publics, at least 4-6 SLACs and the core list of IVY/MIT/Stanford.CalTEch etc. Probably 30-35 or so schools mostly covered on different lists debated here. |