Taylor's Feb Rec for Crown Boundary Study

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Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

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Anonymous wrote:How do Stone Mill families feel about being Dufief’s fool? The Board voted down amendments. Stone Mill is going to Hoover by itself without any other Wootton cluster ES and will leave Hoover MS as the only Crown HS group.

O and your walkable to Crown!

What does Dufief have to do with that LOL

Because they are the biggest winners. Went from being the only school from Wootton to go to crown by themselves to dragging the rest of the cluster with them only to make stone mill now isolated in middle school and Travilah isolated in another middle school.

By the time kids go to hs, ironically parkway families and their enemies will be friends and SM and Travilah kids will be the pariahs.

You are totally delusional if you think Dufief was the mastermind behind all of this. Seriously, touch grass.

If SM and Travilah didn't to be isolated maybe more parents should have spoke up. The smart ones saw the writing on the wall and decided to try to make the most of the situation given the superintendent's recommendation. Very reminiscent of the Wootton walkers choosing to spend their time focusing on fake option "W" versus the options actually on the table at that point.

Yall hear that SM and Travilah? Dufief doesn’t think you are very smart.

The ones that are still anti H and didn't argue for their own middle school articulation just in case H passes? No, that wasn't a smart decision.

And the pro H who thought they were buddies with the Board and Taylor. They thought they would get a modification if they went along to get along. I think those parents were the same ones who stood with you. Are you calling them stupid too?

Requests for a modification and liking H are not one and the same. For example, I support the MS change. It's a bummer it didn't pass. However, I still like option H and want it to pass. Parents can want their kids in a new, safe building AND be disappointed about the MS boundaries. So no, I don't think they are stupid (and I never said the word "stupid"). Now YOU on the other hand...

I can guess what school your kid goes to!
One that won’t be impacted by the MS isolation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

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Anonymous wrote:How do Stone Mill families feel about being Dufief’s fool? The Board voted down amendments. Stone Mill is going to Hoover by itself without any other Wootton cluster ES and will leave Hoover MS as the only Crown HS group.

O and your walkable to Crown!

What does Dufief have to do with that LOL

Because they are the biggest winners. Went from being the only school from Wootton to go to crown by themselves to dragging the rest of the cluster with them only to make stone mill now isolated in middle school and Travilah isolated in another middle school.

By the time kids go to hs, ironically parkway families and their enemies will be friends and SM and Travilah kids will be the pariahs.

You are totally delusional if you think Dufief was the mastermind behind all of this. Seriously, touch grass.

If SM and Travilah didn't to be isolated maybe more parents should have spoke up. The smart ones saw the writing on the wall and decided to try to make the most of the situation given the superintendent's recommendation. Very reminiscent of the Wootton walkers choosing to spend their time focusing on fake option "W" versus the options actually on the table at that point.

Yall hear that SM and Travilah? Dufief doesn’t think you are very smart.

The ones that are still anti H and didn't argue for their own middle school articulation just in case H passes? No, that wasn't a smart decision.

And the pro H who thought they were buddies with the Board and Taylor. They thought they would get a modification if they went along to get along. I think those parents were the same ones who stood with you. Are you calling them stupid too?

Requests for a modification and liking H are not one and the same. For example, I support the MS change. It's a bummer it didn't pass. However, I still like option H and want it to pass. Parents can want their kids in a new, safe building AND be disappointed about the MS boundaries. So no, I don't think they are stupid (and I never said the word "stupid"). Now YOU on the other hand...

I can guess what school your kid goes to!
One that won’t be impacted by the MS isolation.

Wrong again!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

Yeah, it was a mistake to do Middle School / High School boundaries only and not touch ES boundaries when we have something like Rosemont being split into three pieces.

I assume the Stone Mill / Travilah Middle School assignments will be looked at again when they do the ES / MS boundary study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

That and because it would make the map not look pretty.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

Yeah, it was a mistake to do Middle School / High School boundaries only and not touch ES boundaries when we have something like Rosemont being split into three pieces.

I assume the Stone Mill / Travilah Middle School assignments will be looked at again when they do the ES / MS boundary study.

That’s even more instability.
This all goes into effect in 2027.
ES/MS per MCPS will take at least 2 years so a generous assumption is implementation by 2030.

1. We don’t know if they will be changed and looked at.
2. If they are changed, what would some options be?
3. Regardless, none of this helps current kids, eg today’s 5th grades are harmed no matter what.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

Yeah, it was a mistake to do Middle School / High School boundaries only and not touch ES boundaries when we have something like Rosemont being split into three pieces.

I assume the Stone Mill / Travilah Middle School assignments will be looked at again when they do the ES / MS boundary study.

Sorry, so to confirm, by saying the middle school study failed, does this mean middle school articulations will remain the same as they are now or remain as they are in modified option H?

If they remain the same as they are now while the rest of mod option H goes through that would be so chaotic.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

Yeah, it was a mistake to do Middle School / High School boundaries only and not touch ES boundaries when we have something like Rosemont being split into three pieces.

I assume the Stone Mill / Travilah Middle School assignments will be looked at again when they do the ES / MS boundary study.

Sorry, so to confirm, by saying the middle school study failed, does this mean middle school articulations will remain the same as they are now or remain as they are in modified option H?

If they remain the same as they are now while the rest of mod option H goes through that would be so chaotic.

The resolution failed so assuming mod H aka the official super’s recommendation passes, the ms articulation will be option H, with stone mill going to cjms by themselves and Travilah going to Hoover by themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

They sound like superintendent recommendation is final. What’s the use of BOE then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

Yeah, it was a mistake to do Middle School / High School boundaries only and not touch ES boundaries when we have something like Rosemont being split into three pieces.

I assume the Stone Mill / Travilah Middle School assignments will be looked at again when they do the ES / MS boundary study.

Seriously you expect stonemill going to Hoover for a year or two and travilah to cabin John for a year or two and then one of them have to change school again?
Now north Potomac is split to three different middle schools and BOE doesn’t care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

Yeah, it was a mistake to do Middle School / High School boundaries only and not touch ES boundaries when we have something like Rosemont being split into three pieces.

I assume the Stone Mill / Travilah Middle School assignments will be looked at again when they do the ES / MS boundary study.

Seriously you expect stonemill going to Hoover for a year or two and travilah to cabin John for a year or two and then one of them have to change school again?
Now north Potomac is split to three different middle schools and BOE doesn’t care.

I don’t think they’ll be changed again. They’re probably doing this explicitly because they want to fudge with the Stone Mill - Wayside and Travilah - Potomac ES boundaries eventually without changing middle school participation again. Ie they’re going to move parts of Wayside into SMES and Potomac into Travilah to relieve the over-crowding at Churchill and Bells Mill.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

Yeah, it was a mistake to do Middle School / High School boundaries only and not touch ES boundaries when we have something like Rosemont being split into three pieces.

I assume the Stone Mill / Travilah Middle School assignments will be looked at again when they do the ES / MS boundary study.

Seriously you expect stonemill going to Hoover for a year or two and travilah to cabin John for a year or two and then one of them have to change school again?
Now north Potomac is split to three different middle schools and BOE doesn’t care.

I don’t think they’ll be changed again. They’re probably doing this explicitly because they want to fudge with the Stone Mill - Wayside and Travilah - Potomac ES boundaries eventually without changing middle school participation again. Ie they’re going to move parts of Wayside into SMES and Potomac into Travilah to relieve the over-crowding at Churchill and Bells Mill.

Yes I think this is likely part of it. As someone in the part of Wayside that’s closer to Churchill that most of Churchill cluster, I always assumed this would unfortunately happen which stinks for my kids who have friends in the few neighborhoods far out, but feels like Churchill was always too far north geographically which ironically happened when Wootton and its feeders were severely overcrowded in the 90s. The fact that the alternative recommendation D splits off about 20-25% of Potomac and Wayside to Wootton is I’m sure due to this.

It also could be that Dufief is closed and it’s kids added to one or both of Travilah and Stone Mill and moved from Frost for MS to Hoover and CJ. That’d also help better balance things.

It’s so weird that Hoover and CJMS are so close to each other yet Wootton just had Frost. So three MS for two high schools. Add in Julius West for RM and you’ve got four MS for 3 HS and two MS are totally separated from the rest of those other two clusters.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure who caught this, but the reason the board decided against passing the MS change is pretty much they didn't want any more meetings. So thanks Anti-H. Basically everyone is sick of hearing from you.

Because they said it is out of order to propose resolutions this late.

You know what’s out of order?
Building a school with money and kids you don’t have.

Doing a HS boundary and then an ES one.

Agree. And also, MCPS could have presented it as a modified recommendation. It didn't have to go through as a resolution. All signs point to H passing so it just really stinks for those kids impacted.

Yeah, it was a mistake to do Middle School / High School boundaries only and not touch ES boundaries when we have something like Rosemont being split into three pieces.

I assume the Stone Mill / Travilah Middle School assignments will be looked at again when they do the ES / MS boundary study.

Seriously you expect stonemill going to Hoover for a year or two and travilah to cabin John for a year or two and then one of them have to change school again?
Now north Potomac is split to three different middle schools and BOE doesn’t care.

I don’t think they’ll be changed again. They’re probably doing this explicitly because they want to fudge with the Stone Mill - Wayside and Travilah - Potomac ES boundaries eventually without changing middle school participation again. Ie they’re going to move parts of Wayside into SMES and Potomac into Travilah to relieve the over-crowding at Churchill and Bells Mill.

Yes I think this is likely part of it. As someone in the part of Wayside that’s closer to Churchill that most of Churchill cluster, I always assumed this would unfortunately happen which stinks for my kids who have friends in the few neighborhoods far out, but feels like Churchill was always too far north geographically which ironically happened when Wootton and its feeders were severely overcrowded in the 90s. The fact that the alternative recommendation D splits off about 20-25% of Potomac and Wayside to Wootton is I’m sure due to this.

It also could be that Dufief is closed and it’s kids added to one or both of Travilah and Stone Mill and moved from Frost for MS to Hoover and CJ. That’d also help better balance things.

It’s so weird that Hoover and CJMS are so close to each other yet Wootton just had Frost. So three MS for two high schools. Add in Julius West for RM and you’ve got four MS for 3 HS and two MS are totally separated from the rest of those other two clusters.

Yes, I hear you and this makes total sense. I’m sure it’s because of those Wootton numbers early on that neighborhoods like Potomac Glen got sent to Wayside and not Stone Mill. However, geographically it certainly seems that Potomac Glen should be Stone Mill/Wootton and not Wayside/Churchill.