Looks like a new Gaza war has started

[Anonymous]

DSA National states its support for Hamas https://x.com/demsocialists/status/1710857364604412350?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ

[Anonymous]

Israel is going to frame this as their 9/11.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was Israel expecting? They’ve brutalized and humiliated these people for decades. They’ve given them no hope. When you keep torturing a caged animal, you’re eventually going to get bit.

Palestinians reject every peace off they get. In 1967 after the six day war Israel offered all lands captured in exchange for peace and the Arab nations responded with the Khartoum resolution. Also Arabs didn’t give Palestinians a state between 48-67. They never cared about Palestinians but use them as pawns against each Israel

It’s this sort of dismissive attitude that leads to this situation. None of this matters to the Palestinian families whose kids are gunned down by the IDF on the way to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel is going to frame this as their 9/11.

It is.

All media outlets were saying that yesterday…9/11…Pearl Harbor…because it is true.

Hamas launched a holy war to destroy Israel.

Iran, Hezbollah, the freaking Taliban, and Qatar are egging them on.

This isn’t a skirmish over borders, and this most certainly isn’t a noble defense of human rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel is going to frame this as their 9/11.

It is.

500 killed so far in such a small country.


Even if Palestinians get their own state, they will still preach the destruction of Israel.

Israel must flatten Gaza and expel the people there to Egypt, Lebanon, Iran.

Hamas will never stop attacking Israel.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone ever question this idea of “driven from their homes and land” and just rhetoric when they are literally still living on the same land. They got driven from New Jersey to Pennsylvania basically. Then orders are only state drawn like every border in the world. Every single country in the world was created by displacing the original people who lived there or absorbing them. The British btw absorbed and expelled into and from israel the people who were living there on farms. They could have created states and made Israel bigger by now. If only.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel is going to frame this as their 9/11.

It’s a combination of 9/11 and January 6. Multiple intelligence failures, a political elite so focused on its stupid domestic infighting, wholly unprepared defense professionals, etc.

Israel is a very small country - only 10m people. So the fact that there will likely be at least 1000 Israeli civilian deaths + 5000+ casualties means that pretty much every Israeli personally knows someone killed, seriously injured, or kidnapped. It’s going to affect the national psyche for 2-3 generations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone ever question this idea of “driven from their homes and land” and just rhetoric when they are literally still living on the same land. They got driven from New Jersey to Pennsylvania basically. Then orders are only state drawn like every border in the world. Every single country in the world was created by displacing the original people who lived there or absorbing them. The British btw absorbed and expelled into and from israel the people who were living there on farms. They could have created states and made Israel bigger by now. If only.

OK, sure. In almost all of these cases, displacement of the indigenous populations triggered violent resistance at the time and reparations to descendants in the modern era. While providing Palestinians with a right to return to the homes of their forebears is beyond the realm of political possibility now, very few people would argue that a very large share of Palestinians are worse off for that displacement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone ever question this idea of “driven from their homes and land” and just rhetoric when they are literally still living on the same land. They got driven from New Jersey to Pennsylvania basically. Then orders are only state drawn like every border in the world. Every single country in the world was created by displacing the original people who lived there or absorbing them. The British btw absorbed and expelled into and from israel the people who were living there on farms. They could have created states and made Israel bigger by now. If only.

So if your home and land was taken from you with no compensation, and then you were forced to flee to a neighboring state where you were locked in and couldn’t get out and had no job, you’d be cool with that? No biggie right?

[Anonymous]

Who gives a crap?

None of this stuff matters to me or virtually any American. What does a skirmish in the middle east have to do with us? They've been bombing and killing each other over stupid religion over there for the past 3000 years. Why would it ever change. Let them kill themselves and their gods sort it out.

[Anonymous]

Embarrassing

[Anonymous]

I’m no lover of Hamas, but it’s really hard to take the Israel defenders seriously when they won’t acknowledge that perhaps Palestinians have some legitimate gripes with their treatment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m no lover of Hamas, but it’s really hard to take the Israel defenders seriously when they won’t acknowledge that perhaps Palestinians have some legitimate gripes with their treatment.

How do you make peace with Hamas? They don’t want a state. They want to kill Jews .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone ever question this idea of “driven from their homes and land” and just rhetoric when they are literally still living on the same land. They got driven from New Jersey to Pennsylvania basically. Then orders are only state drawn like every border in the world. Every single country in the world was created by displacing the original people who lived there or absorbing them. The British btw absorbed and expelled into and from israel the people who were living there on farms. They could have created states and made Israel bigger by now. If only.

So if your home and land was taken from you with no compensation, and then you were forced to flee to a neighboring state where you were locked in and couldn’t get out and had no job, you’d be cool with that? No biggie right?

They weren’t locked in. That came much much later because of the wars. All the surround Arabic countries wanted to keep them there and in flux. They are actually boxed in by Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Jordan. Please only post if you know anything about the region at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel is going to frame this as their 9/11.

It is.

500 killed so far in such a small country.


Even if Palestinians get their own state, they will still preach the destruction of Israel.

Israel must flatten Gaza and expel the people there to Egypt, Lebanon, Iran.

Hamas will never stop attacking Israel.

There is no chance that Palestinians will be welcome in Egypt, Lebanon or anywhere else in the Middle East. Everywhere they've been - Jordan, Lebanon, Kuwait - they've caused civil war and strife. No one is rushing to offer them a new home. Palestinians are responsible for their own fate. By murdering 500 Israelis yesterday, Palestinians in Gaza have ensured that their future will be nothing more than a pile of rubble. They have nowhere to go. The borders with Egypt and Israel will remain sealed. Soon, food, water and fuel will become a problem. Not sure if Hamas thought things through. Gaza is going to be an extremely unpleasant place to be for the next few decades.