Elementary Schools In Capitol Hill

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Anonymous wrote:Do Maury and Brent parents seriously not see a problem with their kids attending majority white schools in a city that is majority-minority? I always wonder this about SWS too. It’s not that I don’t understand that it’s no individual parent’s “fault” that this is the case, but… doesn’t it bother you? Of course we all want our kids to get a good education, but one question I’d ask myself is what we are teaching our kids when we tell them the best schools are the whitest schools. Do you not think they pick up in this stuff? Trust me: by MS they know exactly what the score is. That’s part of the education you are giving them too.

What? Why would we be telling them that? I don't tell them anything about Maury's demographics and I don't tell them anything about whether it's the "best." Like, in what universe are a first grader's parents discussing with him the finer points of PARCC scores and comparing it to schools that he doesn't attend?

to be fair - my kid isn’t stupid, and he may realize that we avoided the IB MS and HS - which are basically all black. It would be a conversation to have. On the flip side I’m planning to look into Banneker if they can be persuaded to accept a kid with an IEP (open question.)But at the end of the day, is this any different a conversation to have than to discuss why we live in a $1 mil rowhouse and not Potomac Gardens?

The demographics of my kid's Hill elementary school (L-T) are actually more diverse than our street/immediately surrounding neighborhood. I actually suspect that's also true for many kids at the schools mentioned in this thread. 40%+ white or even 60% white is not *that* white... Have you looked around the IBs for these schools recently? (Although, I have to say that I wonder if the demographics have shifted at L-T in the last 2 years and/or if a lot of AA parents are not sending their kids in person this year because of COVID, because I saw the line at first day of school (K-5) drop off today, and those kids were not only 40% white...).

Maybe Covid and remote work has solved the issues with residency cheaters...... Not worth the drive for school if you don't have the work commute....?

What percentage of enrollment is attributable to residency fraud?

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Anonymous wrote:Look, I love the Hill. But the reality is that so many white parents pat themselves on the back and talk loudly at Lincoln Park playground about how committed they are to public schools and to the community...and these same parents are sending their kids to Maury and Brent, and moving or doing private after elemetnary or middle school. No one is sending their kid to Eastern. You don't get an award for being white and living in a city but only associating with white people.

And I'm a black parent who decamped from our low-performing in-bound school for a charter, would never think of sending my kids to Eastern, and will likely go private from middle school onward. Is there any problem with that? Or are such choices only a problem when white folks do it.

Ahhhhh….thank you. White parents come up for so much abuse when they make precisely the same school choices that black parents do ( in fact whatever school choice they make vis-à-vis race: choose a school that is 60% white and you are racist, choose a school that is 20% white and you are some kind of nice-white-parent gentrified. I swear I’m not whining about it, but it’s a definite phenomenon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Repetitive comments/arguments about race are kosher, but facts about the Brent principal’s habit of retaliation are not?

We need more info

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do Maury and Brent parents seriously not see a problem with their kids attending majority white schools in a city that is majority-minority? I always wonder this about SWS too. It’s not that I don’t understand that it’s no individual parent’s “fault” that this is the case, but… doesn’t it bother you? Of course we all want our kids to get a good education, but one question I’d ask myself is what we are teaching our kids when we tell them the best schools are the whitest schools. Do you not think they pick up in this stuff? Trust me: by MS they know exactly what the score is. That’s part of the education you are giving them too.

What? Why would we be telling them that? I don't tell them anything about Maury's demographics and I don't tell them anything about whether it's the "best." Like, in what universe are a first grader's parents discussing with him the finer points of PARCC scores and comparing it to schools that he doesn't attend?

to be fair - my kid isn’t stupid, and he may realize that we avoided the IB MS and HS - which are basically all black. It would be a conversation to have. On the flip side I’m planning to look into Banneker if they can be persuaded to accept a kid with an IEP (open question.)But at the end of the day, is this any different a conversation to have than to discuss why we live in a $1 mil rowhouse and not Potomac Gardens?

The demographics of my kid's Hill elementary school (L-T) are actually more diverse than our street/immediately surrounding neighborhood. I actually suspect that's also true for many kids at the schools mentioned in this thread. 40%+ white or even 60% white is not *that* white... Have you looked around the IBs for these schools recently? (Although, I have to say that I wonder if the demographics have shifted at L-T in the last 2 years and/or if a lot of AA parents are not sending their kids in person this year because of COVID, because I saw the line at first day of school (K-5) drop off today, and those kids were not only 40% white...).

I'll say that the crowd at Two Rivers 4th drop-off this morning was much whiter than I had imagined given the demo stats. Maybe black and brown families make disproportionate use of before care?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look, I love the Hill. But the reality is that so many white parents pat themselves on the back and talk loudly at Lincoln Park playground about how committed they are to public schools and to the community...and these same parents are sending their kids to Maury and Brent, and moving or doing private after elemetnary or middle school. No one is sending their kid to Eastern. You don't get an award for being white and living in a city but only associating with white people.

And I'm a black parent who decamped from our low-performing in-bound school for a charter, would never think of sending my kids to Eastern, and will likely go private from middle school onward. Is there any problem with that? Or are such choices only a problem when white folks do it.

Ahhhhh….thank you. White parents come up for so much abuse when they make precisely the same school choices that black parents do ( in fact whatever school choice they make vis-à-vis race: choose a school that is 60% white and you are racist, choose a school that is 20% white and you are some kind of nice-white-parent gentrified. I swear I’m not whining about it, but it’s a definite phenomenon.

Well you are whining about it

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I was lukewarm on the Brent principal pre Covid but then she reopened first. That's right, FIRST DCPS school to reopen at all. Some friends with kids at other DCPS elementary schools were unable to return even in the 4th Quarter. That's right, not a day of in-person learning with no discernable pushback from DCPS. One of my kids was even in a small in-person Brent class all the way from Nov to June this past school year. At this point, I'm wiling to give her the benefit of the doubt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, I love the Hill. But the reality is that so many white parents pat themselves on the back and talk loudly at Lincoln Park playground about how committed they are to public schools and to the community...and these same parents are sending their kids to Maury and Brent, and moving or doing private after elemetnary or middle school. No one is sending their kid to Eastern. You don't get an award for being white and living in a city but only associating with white people.

And I'm a black parent who decamped from our low-performing in-bound school for a charter, would never think of sending my kids to Eastern, and will likely go private from middle school onward. Is there any problem with that? Or are such choices only a problem when white folks do it.

Ahhhhh….thank you. White parents come up for so much abuse when they make precisely the same school choices that black parents do ( in fact whatever school choice they make vis-à-vis race: choose a school that is 60% white and you are racist, choose a school that is 20% white and you are some kind of nice-white-parent gentrified. I swear I’m not whining about it, but it’s a definite phenomenon.

Well you are whining about it

Observations are not inherently whining. Not everyone has an agenda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do Maury and Brent parents seriously not see a problem with their kids attending majority white schools in a city that is majority-minority? I always wonder this about SWS too. It’s not that I don’t understand that it’s no individual parent’s “fault” that this is the case, but… doesn’t it bother you? Of course we all want our kids to get a good education, but one question I’d ask myself is what we are teaching our kids when we tell them the best schools are the whitest schools. Do you not think they pick up in this stuff? Trust me: by MS they know exactly what the score is. That’s part of the education you are giving them too.

What? Why would we be telling them that? I don't tell them anything about Maury's demographics and I don't tell them anything about whether it's the "best." Like, in what universe are a first grader's parents discussing with him the finer points of PARCC scores and comparing it to schools that he doesn't attend?

to be fair - my kid isn’t stupid, and he may realize that we avoided the IB MS and HS - which are basically all black. It would be a conversation to have. On the flip side I’m planning to look into Banneker if they can be persuaded to accept a kid with an IEP (open question.)But at the end of the day, is this any different a conversation to have than to discuss why we live in a $1 mil rowhouse and not Potomac Gardens?

The demographics of my kid's Hill elementary school (L-T) are actually more diverse than our street/immediately surrounding neighborhood. I actually suspect that's also true for many kids at the schools mentioned in this thread. 40%+ white or even 60% white is not *that* white... Have you looked around the IBs for these schools recently? (Although, I have to say that I wonder if the demographics have shifted at L-T in the last 2 years and/or if a lot of AA parents are not sending their kids in person this year because of COVID, because I saw the line at first day of school (K-5) drop off today, and those kids were not only 40% white...).

I'll say that the crowd at Two Rivers 4th drop-off this morning was much whiter than I had imagined given the demo stats. Maybe black and brown families make disproportionate use of before care?

L-T doesn't have before care, so that can't be it in L-T's case. My kid reported 3 kids missing today, which is more than usual in my experience, but not really enough to be a thing at least anecdotally...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was lukewarm on the Brent principal pre Covid but then she reopened first. That's right, FIRST DCPS school to reopen at all. Some friends with kids at other DCPS elementary schools were unable to return even in the 4th Quarter. That's right, not a day of in-person learning with no discernable pushback from DCPS. One of my kids was even in a small in-person Brent class all the way from Nov to June this past school year. At this point, I'm wiling to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Didn't Brent only have like 1 or 2 classes back? L-T had one self-contained classroom back T2 thanks to an amazing volunteer teacher. Not sure I'd really give the principal much credit... I know that a few other schools also had "pilot" classrooms in the Fall/Winter, so not sure why you think Brent was FIRST.

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Anonymous wrote:I was lukewarm on the Brent principal pre Covid but then she reopened first. That's right, FIRST DCPS school to reopen at all. Some friends with kids at other DCPS elementary schools were unable to return even in the 4th Quarter. That's right, not a day of in-person learning with no discernable pushback from DCPS. One of my kids was even in a small in-person Brent class all the way from Nov to June this past school year. At this point, I'm wiling to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Didn't Brent only have like 1 or 2 classes back? L-T had one self-contained classroom back T2 thanks to an amazing volunteer teacher. Not sure I'd really give the principal much credit... I know that a few other schools also had "pilot" classrooms in the Fall/Winter, so not sure why you think Brent was FIRST.

Brent was first to get a class back for every grade but K, and one of the first to get all the kids back (the other schools were WotP). I'm happy to give any principal who didn't sit on his or her hands lots of credit. The principals who didn't bother to reopen despite having good ventilation in their buildings got away with it. What an outrage.

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Anonymous wrote:I was lukewarm on the Brent principal pre Covid but then she reopened first. That's right, FIRST DCPS school to reopen at all. Some friends with kids at other DCPS elementary schools were unable to return even in the 4th Quarter. That's right, not a day of in-person learning with no discernable pushback from DCPS. One of my kids was even in a small in-person Brent class all the way from Nov to June this past school year. At this point, I'm wiling to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Didn't Brent only have like 1 or 2 classes back? L-T had one self-contained classroom back T2 thanks to an amazing volunteer teacher. Not sure I'd really give the principal much credit... I know that a few other schools also had "pilot" classrooms in the Fall/Winter, so not sure why you think Brent was FIRST.

Brent was first to get a class back for every grade but K, and one of the first to get all the kids back (the other schools were WotP). I'm happy to give any principal who didn't sit on his or her hands lots of credit. The principals who didn't bother to reopen despite having good ventilation in their buildings got away with it. What an outrage.

The first to get a class back in every grade but K? What on earth kind of stat is that? Brent had a bunch of kids back, no doubt… but this OMG we were first is just crazy.

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What's crazy is that hardly any Maury or L-T kids got back until April. Ech.

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Anonymous wrote:What's crazy is that hardly any Maury or L-T kids got back until April. Ech.

Maury was dominated by parents who wanted to stay home. A fair amount of kids returned in T3 then a flood in T4 when parents were demanding seats. I think if teachers were staying home, there wasn’t much the principal could do as well. But yeah, if every school had made an effort to open a classroom in the fall on a voluntary basis then that probably would have been proof of concept to open earlier. So Brent definitely deserves credit.

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Anonymous wrote:What's crazy is that hardly any Maury or L-T kids got back until April. Ech.

Maury was dominated by parents who wanted to stay home. A fair amount of kids returned in T3 then a flood in T4 when parents were demanding seats. I think if teachers were staying home, there wasn’t much the principal could do as well. But yeah, if every school had made an effort to open a classroom in the fall on a voluntary basis then that probably would have been proof of concept to open earlier. So Brent definitely deserves credit.

Oh forgot to add - Brent deserves credit because other Hill parents knew they had opened a classroom, and that allowed them to pressure their own schools to open. “Why don’t we have what that school has” is potent reasoning on the Hill

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Meanwhile, the OP has decided not to move to Capitol Hill.

Thanks everyone!