Elementary Schools In Capitol Hill

[Anonymous]

I don’t know what you don’t understand about subgroup. Meaning, if you break out scores by race. Also, the claim about 2017-2018 and LT v Brent for ELA specifically is true. You can find a thread on this forum with an in depth discussion if you search for it.

Looks like PP is right re: 2017-2018, here’s a thread that references it: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/746391.page.

And this thread has all the numbers: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/746316.page.


The threads don't seem to work (for me). Where do you find the numbers on DCPS or OSSE?

[Anonymous]

Look, I love the Hill. But the reality is that so many white parents pat themselves on the back and talk loudly at Lincoln Park playground about how committed they are to public schools and to the community...and these same parents are sending their kids to Maury and Brent, and moving or doing private after elemetnary or middle school. No one is sending their kid to Eastern. You don't get an award for being white and living in a city but only associating with white people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I don’t know what you don’t understand about subgroup. Meaning, if you break out scores by race. Also, the claim about 2017-2018 and LT v Brent for ELA specifically is true. You can find a thread on this forum with an in depth discussion if you search for it.

Looks like PP is right re: 2017-2018, here’s a thread that references it: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/746391.page.

And this thread has all the numbers: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/746316.page.


The threads don't seem to work (for me). Where do you find the numbers on DCPS or OSSE?

If you copy the "numbers" link above, the first post in that thread is the link to OSSE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, I love the Hill. But the reality is that so many white parents pat themselves on the back and talk loudly at Lincoln Park playground about how committed they are to public schools and to the community...and these same parents are sending their kids to Maury and Brent, and moving or doing private after elemetnary or middle school. No one is sending their kid to Eastern. You don't get an award for being white and living in a city but only associating with white people.

I’m sending my kid to our diverse IB school, not asking for an award. Are you sending your kid to a school like Eastern? Where’s your award?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don’t know what you don’t understand about subgroup. Meaning, if you break out scores by race. Also, the claim about 2017-2018 and LT v Brent for ELA specifically is true. You can find a thread on this forum with an in depth discussion if you search for it.

Looks like PP is right re: 2017-2018, here’s a thread that references it: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/746391.page.

And this thread has all the numbers: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/746316.page.


The threads don't seem to work (for me). Where do you find the numbers on DCPS or OSSE?

If you copy the "numbers" link above, the first post in that thread is the link to OSSE.

Got it. I thought there was a Tableau-based file as well that's easier to manipulate. The link to OESSE only has xls or pdf files to choose from. Do you know if that Tableau format still exists?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, I love the Hill. But the reality is that so many white parents pat themselves on the back and talk loudly at Lincoln Park playground about how committed they are to public schools and to the community...and these same parents are sending their kids to Maury and Brent, and moving or doing private after elemetnary or middle school. No one is sending their kid to Eastern. You don't get an award for being white and living in a city but only associating with white people.

And I'm a black parent who decamped from our low-performing in-bound school for a charter, would never think of sending my kids to Eastern, and will likely go private from middle school onward. Is there any problem with that? Or are such choices only a problem when white folks do it.

[Anonymous]

Repetitive comments/arguments about race are kosher, but facts about the Brent principal’s habit of retaliation are not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do Maury and Brent parents seriously not see a problem with their kids attending majority white schools in a city that is majority-minority? I always wonder this about SWS too. It’s not that I don’t understand that it’s no individual parent’s “fault” that this is the case, but… doesn’t it bother you? Of course we all want our kids to get a good education, but one question I’d ask myself is what we are teaching our kids when we tell them the best schools are the whitest schools. Do you not think they pick up in this stuff? Trust me: by MS they know exactly what the score is. That’s part of the education you are giving them too.

What? Why would we be telling them that? I don't tell them anything about Maury's demographics and I don't tell them anything about whether it's the "best." Like, in what universe are a first grader's parents discussing with him the finer points of PARCC scores and comparing it to schools that he doesn't attend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Repetitive comments/arguments about race are kosher, but facts about the Brent principal’s habit of retaliation are not?

yeah that was one serious accusation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, I love the Hill. But the reality is that so many white parents pat themselves on the back and talk loudly at Lincoln Park playground about how committed they are to public schools and to the community...and these same parents are sending their kids to Maury and Brent, and moving or doing private after elemetnary or middle school. No one is sending their kid to Eastern. You don't get an award for being white and living in a city but only associating with white people.

And I'm a black parent who decamped from our low-performing in-bound school for a charter, would never think of sending my kids to Eastern, and will likely go private from middle school onward. Is there any problem with that? Or are such choices only a problem when white folks do it.

exactly. the stupid focus on white-parent-shaming is a GREAT way to distract from the fact that lots of DC schools are failing poor black kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do Maury and Brent parents seriously not see a problem with their kids attending majority white schools in a city that is majority-minority? I always wonder this about SWS too. It’s not that I don’t understand that it’s no individual parent’s “fault” that this is the case, but… doesn’t it bother you? Of course we all want our kids to get a good education, but one question I’d ask myself is what we are teaching our kids when we tell them the best schools are the whitest schools. Do you not think they pick up in this stuff? Trust me: by MS they know exactly what the score is. That’s part of the education you are giving them too.

What? Why would we be telling them that? I don't tell them anything about Maury's demographics and I don't tell them anything about whether it's the "best." Like, in what universe are a first grader's parents discussing with him the finer points of PARCC scores and comparing it to schools that he doesn't attend?

to be fair - my kid isn’t stupid, and he may realize that we avoided the IB MS and HS - which are basically all black. It would be a conversation to have. On the flip side I’m planning to look into Banneker if they can be persuaded to accept a kid with an IEP (open question.)But at the end of the day, is this any different a conversation to have than to discuss why we live in a $1 mil rowhouse and not Potomac Gardens?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do Maury and Brent parents seriously not see a problem with their kids attending majority white schools in a city that is majority-minority? I always wonder this about SWS too. It’s not that I don’t understand that it’s no individual parent’s “fault” that this is the case, but… doesn’t it bother you? Of course we all want our kids to get a good education, but one question I’d ask myself is what we are teaching our kids when we tell them the best schools are the whitest schools. Do you not think they pick up in this stuff? Trust me: by MS they know exactly what the score is. That’s part of the education you are giving them too.

What? Why would we be telling them that? I don't tell them anything about Maury's demographics and I don't tell them anything about whether it's the "best." Like, in what universe are a first grader's parents discussing with him the finer points of PARCC scores and comparing it to schools that he doesn't attend?

to be fair - my kid isn’t stupid, and he may realize that we avoided the IB MS and HS - which are basically all black. It would be a conversation to have. On the flip side I’m planning to look into Banneker if they can be persuaded to accept a kid with an IEP (open question.)But at the end of the day, is this any different a conversation to have than to discuss why we live in a $1 mil rowhouse and not Potomac Gardens?

The demographics of my kid's Hill elementary school (L-T) are actually more diverse than our street/immediately surrounding neighborhood. I actually suspect that's also true for many kids at the schools mentioned in this thread. 40%+ white or even 60% white is not *that* white... Have you looked around the IBs for these schools recently? (Although, I have to say that I wonder if the demographics have shifted at L-T in the last 2 years and/or if a lot of AA parents are not sending their kids in person this year because of COVID, because I saw the line at first day of school (K-5) drop off today, and those kids were not only 40% white...).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Repetitive comments/arguments about race are kosher, but facts about the Brent principal’s habit of retaliation are not?

No idea what you're talking about. Enlighten us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do Maury and Brent parents seriously not see a problem with their kids attending majority white schools in a city that is majority-minority? I always wonder this about SWS too. It’s not that I don’t understand that it’s no individual parent’s “fault” that this is the case, but… doesn’t it bother you? Of course we all want our kids to get a good education, but one question I’d ask myself is what we are teaching our kids when we tell them the best schools are the whitest schools. Do you not think they pick up in this stuff? Trust me: by MS they know exactly what the score is. That’s part of the education you are giving them too.

What? Why would we be telling them that? I don't tell them anything about Maury's demographics and I don't tell them anything about whether it's the "best." Like, in what universe are a first grader's parents discussing with him the finer points of PARCC scores and comparing it to schools that he doesn't attend?

to be fair - my kid isn’t stupid, and he may realize that we avoided the IB MS and HS - which are basically all black. It would be a conversation to have. On the flip side I’m planning to look into Banneker if they can be persuaded to accept a kid with an IEP (open question.)But at the end of the day, is this any different a conversation to have than to discuss why we live in a $1 mil rowhouse and not Potomac Gardens?

The demographics of my kid's Hill elementary school (L-T) are actually more diverse than our street/immediately surrounding neighborhood. I actually suspect that's also true for many kids at the schools mentioned in this thread. 40%+ white or even 60% white is not *that* white... Have you looked around the IBs for these schools recently? (Although, I have to say that I wonder if the demographics have shifted at L-T in the last 2 years and/or if a lot of AA parents are not sending their kids in person this year because of COVID, because I saw the line at first day of school (K-5) drop off today, and those kids were not only 40% white...).

Maybe Covid and remote work has solved the issues with residency cheaters...... Not worth the drive for school if you don't have the work commute....?

[Anonymous]

Brent’s principal has a habit of retaliation if you’re not “rah rah” about the school. In response to mild and measures constructive criticism, she called CPS on my family.

The admins deleted previous comments for some reason.