What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

again - occam’s razor. the dad (or possibly mom) lured them out and poisoned them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No cell service there, no family or friends to make the gruesome discovery.

They knew a nanny'd be coming the next morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

again - occam’s razor. the dad (or possibly mom) lured them out and poisoned them.

With what? And wouldn't investigators have found this toxic substance if that was the case?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

again - occam’s razor. the dad (or possibly mom) lured them out and poisoned them.

With what? And wouldn't investigators have found this toxic substance if that was the case?

The article states toxicology reports are pending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

again - occam’s razor. the dad (or possibly mom) lured them out and poisoned them.

With what? And wouldn't investigators have found this toxic substance if that was the case?

The article states toxicology reports are pending.

But the offending parent would have had it on them. Unless it was something slower acting that was ingested at home.

[Anonymous]

I thought maybe heat stroke, but I read they were well supplied for the day. I wonder if they were struck by lightning, but considering it's a drought, that doesn't seem likely either. I don't think it's algae. Perhaps they did a potent drug that wafted or touched the dog and baby. It could also have been a food borne illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought maybe heat stroke, but I read they were well supplied for the day. I wonder if they were struck by lightning, but considering it's a drought, that doesn't seem likely either. I don't think it's algae. Perhaps they did a potent drug that wafted or touched the dog and baby. It could also have been a food borne illness.

A food borne illness wouldn't have caused the dog to lay down and die next to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So they left their town to "relocate," go to a "very remote" part of the wilderness, on a really hot day, to a place people were warned was toxic, towing everybody - baby and dog. . . My 1st guess is they wanted to vanish. Sad, but seems most likely.

They were warned it was toxic???

Toxic algae, or something else? I see toxic algae warnings, and it just means I wouldn't swim/touch the water, not that I'd steer clear of the entire area.

Creepy story, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

I don't think people hiking with babies is that odd. People put babies in carriers and go on hikes or picnics, especially in a pandemic that's about all you can do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

I don't think people hiking with babies is that odd. People put babies in carriers and go on hikes or picnics, especially in a pandemic that's about all you can do.

They probably didn't go at the height of the sun, and the baby probably had a shade for the carrier etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems it was the mom given she was the one found away from the others. She was studying to be a marriage counselor and likely unable to follow her own studies or got so twisted by what she was studying and her issues with her marriage.

What a weird comment about her occupation/studies. Not very likely. But, It makes more sense that it was the mom that was poisoned - feeling strange and trying to run and get help. Meanwhile, the dad knew what was happening and calmly feed the baby and dog the water and sat and waited for death to come. I didn’t think of this originally and thought the case was mysterious. But the PP who suggested murder-suicide is most likely right. The police purposely mentioned toxicology reports and the delay, that means tests on the bodies and in the canteen. I think it makes perfect sense to go hiking somewhere beautiful for your last moments…so, so sad.

Doesn't appear there is a single news article about this that mentions a "canteen". Where do you get that from? Your imagination?

NP so not the canteen PP, but it’s in the Post article. “Although temperatures reached as high as 109 degrees the day the family hiked, dehydration was deemed unlikely because there was still water in the family’s hydration pack, the Chronicle reported.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

I don't think people hiking with babies is that odd. People put babies in carriers and go on hikes or picnics, especially in a pandemic that's about all you can do.

The temperature was 109 that day. That's pretty hot for a baby, even for a toddler if the baby was born at the beginning of the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems it was the mom given she was the one found away from the others. She was studying to be a marriage counselor and likely unable to follow her own studies or got so twisted by what she was studying and her issues with her marriage.

What a weird comment about her occupation/studies. Not very likely. But, It makes more sense that it was the mom that was poisoned - feeling strange and trying to run and get help. Meanwhile, the dad knew what was happening and calmly feed the baby and dog the water and sat and waited for death to come. I didn’t think of this originally and thought the case was mysterious. But the PP who suggested murder-suicide is most likely right. The police purposely mentioned toxicology reports and the delay, that means tests on the bodies and in the canteen. I think it makes perfect sense to go hiking somewhere beautiful for your last moments…so, so sad.

Doesn't appear there is a single news article about this that mentions a "canteen". Where do you get that from? Your imagination?

NP so not the canteen PP, but it’s in the Post article. “Although temperatures reached as high as 109 degrees the day the family hiked, dehydration was deemed unlikely because there was still water in the family’s hydration pack, the Chronicle reported.”

Sounds like a camelback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

again - occam’s razor. the dad (or possibly mom) lured them out and poisoned them.

With what? And wouldn't investigators have found this toxic substance if that was the case?

The article states toxicology reports are pending.

But the offending parent would have had it on them. Unless it was something slower acting that was ingested at home.

a tasteless poison like Compound 1080 could have been put in the canteen water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:and why was wife not in car with husband, baby, dog. why found up the hill?

She started to feel sick first, and went to go vomit or go to the bathroom and said watch the baby.