What happened to this California family?

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Anonymous wrote:The drank the water in the lake and something in the water killed them. That's the only explanation for why the dog died too.

No the dad poisoned the canteen water.

I cannot imagine a parent giving their baby lake water, or educated parents drinking lake water 1.5 miles from their house, but that doesn’t mean the dad poisoned them. There could have been something in the water at home that they drank. It will be scary if there is some airborne gas that killed them. It is odd to take a baby on a hike on a day that hot, though.

Agree. I don't understand that part.

I don't think people hiking with babies is that odd. People put babies in carriers and go on hikes or picnics, especially in a pandemic that's about all you can do.

The temperature was 109 that day. That's pretty hot for a baby, even for a toddler if the baby was born at the beginning of the pandemic.

it’s california - very hot but very dry. and at sunrise only in the 60s. you could easily do a short morning hike with a baby.

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The Dad was older, 46, techie who only settled down with his pretty non-techie wife recently. That is squarely in the burning man demographic, and I wonder if they were into recreational drugs and took a bad batch or misidentified wild mushrooms? I mean, no judgement if they do.

More sinister interpretation, he was a 40+ old man set in his way, got hooked into marriage and baby by a pretty young woman, and wanted out after a year stuck with them. As a high paid tech employee married to a social sciences grad student, he was looking at crippling child support and alimony. His carefree rich life was over no matter what he did. I don’t think it’s that, but he is old for a 1st time dad.

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Anything burping from a cave seems highly unlikely. Caves don't burp.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems it was the mom given she was the one found away from the others. She was studying to be a marriage counselor and likely unable to follow her own studies or got so twisted by what she was studying and her issues with her marriage.

What a weird comment about her occupation/studies. Not very likely. But, It makes more sense that it was the mom that was poisoned - feeling strange and trying to run and get help. Meanwhile, the dad knew what was happening and calmly feed the baby and dog the water and sat and waited for death to come. I didn’t think of this originally and thought the case was mysterious. But the PP who suggested murder-suicide is most likely right. The police purposely mentioned toxicology reports and the delay, that means tests on the bodies and in the canteen. I think it makes perfect sense to go hiking somewhere beautiful for your last moments…so, so sad.

Doesn't appear there is a single news article about this that mentions a "canteen". Where do you get that from? Your imagination?

NP so not the canteen PP, but it’s in the Post article. “Although temperatures reached as high as 109 degrees the day the family hiked, dehydration was deemed unlikely because there was still water in the family’s hydration pack, the Chronicle reported.”

There you go. They didn't need lake water.

Now I'm wondering more about husband. What if he wanted to do family murder-suicide, wife was dying, trying to get away and thus found up hill. Or, she died first, then husband sat down with baby and dog snuggled together to die. He was found just sitting.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything burping from a cave seems highly unlikely. Caves don't burp.

There are lots of small earthquakes, shifting the land.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems it was the mom given she was the one found away from the others. She was studying to be a marriage counselor and likely unable to follow her own studies or got so twisted by what she was studying and her issues with her marriage.

What a weird comment about her occupation/studies. Not very likely. But, It makes more sense that it was the mom that was poisoned - feeling strange and trying to run and get help. Meanwhile, the dad knew what was happening and calmly feed the baby and dog the water and sat and waited for death to come. I didn’t think of this originally and thought the case was mysterious. But the PP who suggested murder-suicide is most likely right. The police purposely mentioned toxicology reports and the delay, that means tests on the bodies and in the canteen. I think it makes perfect sense to go hiking somewhere beautiful for your last moments…so, so sad.

Doesn't appear there is a single news article about this that mentions a "canteen". Where do you get that from? Your imagination?

NP so not the canteen PP, but it’s in the Post article. “Although temperatures reached as high as 109 degrees the day the family hiked, dehydration was deemed unlikely because there was still water in the family’s hydration pack, the Chronicle reported.”

There you go. They didn't need lake water.

Now I'm wondering more about husband. What if he wanted to do family murder-suicide, wife was dying, trying to get away and thus found up hill. Or, she died first, then husband sat down with baby and dog snuggled together to die. He was found just sitting.

The location is suspicious. If he was feeling poorly, and she went for help, she would have brought the baby.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems it was the mom given she was the one found away from the others. She was studying to be a marriage counselor and likely unable to follow her own studies or got so twisted by what she was studying and her issues with her marriage.

What a weird comment about her occupation/studies. Not very likely. But, It makes more sense that it was the mom that was poisoned - feeling strange and trying to run and get help. Meanwhile, the dad knew what was happening and calmly feed the baby and dog the water and sat and waited for death to come. I didn’t think of this originally and thought the case was mysterious. But the PP who suggested murder-suicide is most likely right. The police purposely mentioned toxicology reports and the delay, that means tests on the bodies and in the canteen. I think it makes perfect sense to go hiking somewhere beautiful for your last moments…so, so sad.

Doesn't appear there is a single news article about this that mentions a "canteen". Where do you get that from? Your imagination?

NP so not the canteen PP, but it’s in the Post article. “Although temperatures reached as high as 109 degrees the day the family hiked, dehydration was deemed unlikely because there was still water in the family’s hydration pack, the Chronicle reported.”

There you go. They didn't need lake water.

Now I'm wondering more about husband. What if he wanted to do family murder-suicide, wife was dying, trying to get away and thus found up hill. Or, she died first, then husband sat down with baby and dog snuggled together to die. He was found just sitting.

The location is suspicious. If he was feeling poorly, and she went for help, she would have brought the baby.

Perhaps she felt remorse for what she had done killing her family and took her own life, stumbling away as the reality set in.

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Anonymous wrote:and why was wife not in car with husband, baby, dog. why found up the hill?

She started to feel sick first, and went to go vomit or go to the bathroom and said watch the baby.

Or he got sick and stumbled to the ground and she got up to go get help but was overcome?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems it was the mom given she was the one found away from the others. She was studying to be a marriage counselor and likely unable to follow her own studies or got so twisted by what she was studying and her issues with her marriage.

What a weird comment about her occupation/studies. Not very likely. But, It makes more sense that it was the mom that was poisoned - feeling strange and trying to run and get help. Meanwhile, the dad knew what was happening and calmly feed the baby and dog the water and sat and waited for death to come. I didn’t think of this originally and thought the case was mysterious. But the PP who suggested murder-suicide is most likely right. The police purposely mentioned toxicology reports and the delay, that means tests on the bodies and in the canteen. I think it makes perfect sense to go hiking somewhere beautiful for your last moments…so, so sad.

Doesn't appear there is a single news article about this that mentions a "canteen". Where do you get that from? Your imagination?

NP so not the canteen PP, but it’s in the Post article. “Although temperatures reached as high as 109 degrees the day the family hiked, dehydration was deemed unlikely because there was still water in the family’s hydration pack, the Chronicle reported.”

There you go. They didn't need lake water.

Now I'm wondering more about husband. What if he wanted to do family murder-suicide, wife was dying, trying to get away and thus found up hill. Or, she died first, then husband sat down with baby and dog snuggled together to die. He was found just sitting.

Three people and a dog don’t die at the same time from heat exhaustion. The dog at the very least would have had the natural inclination to go to the river nearby and drink.

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Hopefully investigators can come all their electronics for answers

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I think the only two plausible explanations are a large release of CO or CO2 nearby, or poisoning.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only two plausible explanations are a large release of CO or CO2 nearby, or poisoning.

If it is a release of gas, wild animals would have died.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only two plausible explanations are a large release of CO or CO2 nearby, or poisoning.

If it is a release of gas, wild animals would have died.

Would the wild animals be out during the day or would they be nocturnal?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only two plausible explanations are a large release of CO or CO2 nearby, or poisoning.

If it is a release of gas, wild animals would have died.

This reminded me of the Bogle-Chandler case, which is theorized to have been caused by hydrogen sulfide gas from a low-lying body of water (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogle–Chandler_case).