Sad kids have to live through this pandemic

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Typical narcissist DCUM post by OP. Your snowflakes will be just fine. Be glad you’re not trying to flee Afghanistan.

You can be thankful to not have to flee Afghanistan, or be living in Yemen, or a trailer in West Virginia, and at the same time be sad that Covid has made life for your kids less enjoyable than it would have been otherwise.

Made your kids less enjoyable? What are they? Netflix show for you to enjoy? Jesus Christ! You have kids to take care of, to educate, enjoy your kids, sure, on occasion? How privileged! Most parents barely see their kids due to working 2 jobs, they don't go around thinking how they are ENJOYING their kids less.

NP but you have a reading comprehension issue. The poster clearly said the pandemic made life FOR the kids less enjoyable. So simmer down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Midwest. I do feel sorry for DC area kids, they have had a terrible time. My kids were back in school in-person August 2020, we started hanging out with friends, eating in restaurants, etc. May 2020. Their lives have been pretty normal for over a year (except wearing masks but adapted fine to that).

The people arguing that that COVID decisions are a personal choice are right, sort of, but if your entire community has chosen to lock down, who would your kids hang out with even if you wanted to be more open? When I tell my DC friends the pandemic basically ended for my area a year ago, they act like I have 2 heads. Ang guess what, our numbers are on par to slightly better than DC area. What was it all for?

In hindsight, I do feel bad for you!

This is the thing that OP and a couple of others are refusing to accept. That there was no need for no school and activities to happen in the DMV. It was a choice and, in my opinion, a very poor choice by people in charge and no outrage from parents. Nor was there any need to close the libraries other than librarians being spoiled snowflakes.
The fact that restaurants opened, bars opened, stores opened, but schools were kept closed for in-person never made any sense to me. Food factories were opened, car sales were open, and everything was open, and it did not cause spikes. If Indiana-based schools can manage the pandemic, this tells how our expensive budget school counties completely failed our kids. They are here to serve the kids, not the teachers but serve teachers' unfounded wishes they did at the expense of our kids.

In MoCo, that means saving the nasty grandma that flips you off every turn in traffic, yells at you at stores, but not our kids. The private schools were open too! I think this is what people in MCPS and FCPS are refusing to see, that it was not the pandemic. It was them.
And in OP's case and some other pp's case, not only did school administration fail our kids, but their parents failed their kids too! By locking them up inside. Remember, child cares were open.
Some parents found a way. In a subdivision next to mine, it is one of those close with parks and houses closer together, kids player together every day. It is a very diverse area, so you saw Indian parents sitting in nice chairs in driveways and their kids running the area and biking, you saw groups of parents of all backgrounds hanging out together too, and their kids playing football altogether. Kids signed up for childcare for kindergarten. I hate to say it, but there are cultures that put kids first. Sadly many in MoCo of all backgrounds did not put the kids first. Look at how many posts we had that a parent was half vaccinated and decided to lock everyone inside for 3 weeks before the second shot, just to be safe! And not just lock them up, as in no even going out biking! And similar insanities.
It allowed some parents with mental illness that was previously in check to let it run rampant! And they still think they did it for their kids' best interest! Look how it changed from saving the elderly to nothing is acceptable bcs now kids are not vaxed! Normal people were able to logically determine risks and were not debating the "plume" infection at the gas station and buying car funnels to pee during a short road trip!

Monday morning quarterbacking. Everyone forgets that we DIDN’T KNOW how seriously this was going to affect kids and frankly we still don’t. If ever a situation called for an abundance of caution it would be during a pandemic. Yeah looking back we probably could have had more schools open but that’s all hindsight. As we see more children being hospitalized with Delta it makes sense that there is a lingering concern. The places that kept schools open took a risk and did so out of an ideological devotion to Trump - not because they were concerned about kids well being.

[Anonymous]

Perspective. Life is long if we are lucky. I have a friend whose son missed 4th and 5th grade because of cancer. He’s in 10th grade now and the social isolation from those years is a distant memory. The kids will be all right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typical narcissist DCUM post by OP. Your snowflakes will be just fine. Be glad you’re not trying to flee Afghanistan.

You can be thankful to not have to flee Afghanistan, or be living in Yemen, or a trailer in West Virginia, and at the same time be sad that Covid has made life for your kids less enjoyable than it would have been otherwise.

Made your kids less enjoyable? What are they? Netflix show for you to enjoy? Jesus Christ! You have kids to take care of, to educate, enjoy your kids, sure, on occasion? How privileged! Most parents barely see their kids due to working 2 jobs, they don't go around thinking how they are ENJOYING their kids less.

NP but you have a reading comprehension issue. The poster clearly said the pandemic made life FOR the kids less enjoyable. So simmer down.

Oh please! The lack of any obstacles in your lives has made you soft marshmallows!

[Anonymous]

American kids are living through this pandemic in tents in LA and in Walmart parking lots around the country. Let that sink in, and stop whining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Midwest. I do feel sorry for DC area kids, they have had a terrible time. My kids were back in school in-person August 2020, we started hanging out with friends, eating in restaurants, etc. May 2020. Their lives have been pretty normal for over a year (except wearing masks but adapted fine to that).

The people arguing that that COVID decisions are a personal choice are right, sort of, but if your entire community has chosen to lock down, who would your kids hang out with even if you wanted to be more open? When I tell my DC friends the pandemic basically ended for my area a year ago, they act like I have 2 heads. Ang guess what, our numbers are on par to slightly better than DC area. What was it all for?

In hindsight, I do feel bad for you!

This is the thing that OP and a couple of others are refusing to accept. That there was no need for no school and activities to happen in the DMV. It was a choice and, in my opinion, a very poor choice by people in charge and no outrage from parents. Nor was there any need to close the libraries other than librarians being spoiled snowflakes.
The fact that restaurants opened, bars opened, stores opened, but schools were kept closed for in-person never made any sense to me. Food factories were opened, car sales were open, and everything was open, and it did not cause spikes. If Indiana-based schools can manage the pandemic, this tells how our expensive budget school counties completely failed our kids. They are here to serve the kids, not the teachers but serve teachers' unfounded wishes they did at the expense of our kids.

In MoCo, that means saving the nasty grandma that flips you off every turn in traffic, yells at you at stores, but not our kids. The private schools were open too! I think this is what people in MCPS and FCPS are refusing to see, that it was not the pandemic. It was them.
And in OP's case and some other pp's case, not only did school administration fail our kids, but their parents failed their kids too! By locking them up inside. Remember, child cares were open.
Some parents found a way. In a subdivision next to mine, it is one of those close with parks and houses closer together, kids player together every day. It is a very diverse area, so you saw Indian parents sitting in nice chairs in driveways and their kids running the area and biking, you saw groups of parents of all backgrounds hanging out together too, and their kids playing football altogether. Kids signed up for childcare for kindergarten. I hate to say it, but there are cultures that put kids first. Sadly many in MoCo of all backgrounds did not put the kids first. Look at how many posts we had that a parent was half vaccinated and decided to lock everyone inside for 3 weeks before the second shot, just to be safe! And not just lock them up, as in no even going out biking! And similar insanities.
It allowed some parents with mental illness that was previously in check to let it run rampant! And they still think they did it for their kids' best interest! Look how it changed from saving the elderly to nothing is acceptable bcs now kids are not vaxed! Normal people were able to logically determine risks and were not debating the "plume" infection at the gas station and buying car funnels to pee during a short road trip!

Monday morning quarterbacking. Everyone forgets that we DIDN’T KNOW how seriously this was going to affect kids and frankly we still don’t. If ever a situation called for an abundance of caution it would be during a pandemic. Yeah looking back we probably could have had more schools open but that’s all hindsight. As we see more children being hospitalized with Delta it makes sense that there is a lingering concern. The places that kept schools open took a risk and did so out of an ideological devotion to Trump - not because they were concerned about kids well being.

Midwest poster quoted above you. Not really. It became clear quite early that kids were not being seriously affected, and that the vast majority of deaths were the elderly and/or comorbidities. We were completely shut down until that data came out. That is why our area opened back up starting May 2020. A tiny risk to kids, v. the educational loss/social losses spread across all kids….it made sense to reopen on a cost-benefit basis, IMO. It has nothing to do with Trump. My kids were able to attend school in person and did NOT get COVID. If they had, it would almost certainly be mild.

I care a lot about my kids’ well being, certainly, but there are many aspects to their health, mental and physical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Midwest. I do feel sorry for DC area kids, they have had a terrible time. My kids were back in school in-person August 2020, we started hanging out with friends, eating in restaurants, etc. May 2020. Their lives have been pretty normal for over a year (except wearing masks but adapted fine to that).

The people arguing that that COVID decisions are a personal choice are right, sort of, but if your entire community has chosen to lock down, who would your kids hang out with even if you wanted to be more open? When I tell my DC friends the pandemic basically ended for my area a year ago, they act like I have 2 heads. Ang guess what, our numbers are on par to slightly better than DC area. What was it all for?

In hindsight, I do feel bad for you!

This is the thing that OP and a couple of others are refusing to accept. That there was no need for no school and activities to happen in the DMV. It was a choice and, in my opinion, a very poor choice by people in charge and no outrage from parents. Nor was there any need to close the libraries other than librarians being spoiled snowflakes.
The fact that restaurants opened, bars opened, stores opened, but schools were kept closed for in-person never made any sense to me. Food factories were opened, car sales were open, and everything was open, and it did not cause spikes. If Indiana-based schools can manage the pandemic, this tells how our expensive budget school counties completely failed our kids. They are here to serve the kids, not the teachers but serve teachers' unfounded wishes they did at the expense of our kids.

In MoCo, that means saving the nasty grandma that flips you off every turn in traffic, yells at you at stores, but not our kids. The private schools were open too! I think this is what people in MCPS and FCPS are refusing to see, that it was not the pandemic. It was them.
And in OP's case and some other pp's case, not only did school administration fail our kids, but their parents failed their kids too! By locking them up inside. Remember, child cares were open.
Some parents found a way. In a subdivision next to mine, it is one of those close with parks and houses closer together, kids player together every day. It is a very diverse area, so you saw Indian parents sitting in nice chairs in driveways and their kids running the area and biking, you saw groups of parents of all backgrounds hanging out together too, and their kids playing football altogether. Kids signed up for childcare for kindergarten. I hate to say it, but there are cultures that put kids first. Sadly many in MoCo of all backgrounds did not put the kids first. Look at how many posts we had that a parent was half vaccinated and decided to lock everyone inside for 3 weeks before the second shot, just to be safe! And not just lock them up, as in no even going out biking! And similar insanities.
It allowed some parents with mental illness that was previously in check to let it run rampant! And they still think they did it for their kids' best interest! Look how it changed from saving the elderly to nothing is acceptable bcs now kids are not vaxed! Normal people were able to logically determine risks and were not debating the "plume" infection at the gas station and buying car funnels to pee during a short road trip!

Monday morning quarterbacking. Everyone forgets that we DIDN’T KNOW how seriously this was going to affect kids and frankly we still don’t. If ever a situation called for an abundance of caution it would be during a pandemic. Yeah looking back we probably could have had more schools open but that’s all hindsight. As we see more children being hospitalized with Delta it makes sense that there is a lingering concern. The places that kept schools open took a risk and did so out of an ideological devotion to Trump - not because they were concerned about kids well being.

Midwest poster quoted above you. Not really. It became clear quite early that kids were not being seriously affected, and that the vast majority of deaths were the elderly and/or comorbidities. We were completely shut down until that data came out. That is why our area opened back up starting May 2020. A tiny risk to kids, v. the educational loss/social losses spread across all kids….it made sense to reopen on a cost-benefit basis, IMO. It has nothing to do with Trump. My kids were able to attend school in person and did NOT get COVID. If they had, it would almost certainly be mild.

I care a lot about my kids’ well being, certainly, but there are many aspects to their health, mental and physical.

I agree. I am the pp with the example of kids playing and parents sitting in driveways. This all happened last summer, the summer of 2020. Not 2021, how did they know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Midwest. I do feel sorry for DC area kids, they have had a terrible time. My kids were back in school in-person August 2020, we started hanging out with friends, eating in restaurants, etc. May 2020. Their lives have been pretty much normal for over a year (except wearing masks but they adapted fine to that).

The people arguing that that COVID decisions are a personal choice are right, sort of, but if your entire community has chosen to lock down, who would your kids hang out with even if you wanted to be more open? When I tell my DC friends the pandemic basically ended for my area a year ago, they act like I have 2 heads. Ang guess what, our numbers are on par to slightly better than DC area. What was it all for?

In hindsight, I do feel bad for you!

I think there is a real misperception how locked down things were here. Of course some families totally isolated, I’m sure, and that would be the case anywhere. But, once we got beyond the very early days of the pandemic, my kids: saw friends almost every day (mostly outside), did an indoor travel sport, ate at restaurants (outside), went on amazing vacations (beach, camping), actually learned something in school, saw grandparents (took precautions the week leading up to the visit, like got tested), etc. And every time I went to places like Logan Circle, Downtown Bethesda, Downtown Silver Spring, etc, people were out eating, shopping and generally getting our. Playgrounds have been packed. Obviously we have adapted somewhat, like our vacations are domestic and more outdoors focused, but who cares, they are still fun. And the kids have enjoyed doing new things with friends like fire pits instead of malls.

[Anonymous]

I have 3 kids and we know a lot of families in different situations. The kids who are social and popular seem to have found a way to socialize online or in person. This goes for all ages. Then there are kids who really struggled being home.

My middle child struggled during the winter and then learned to connect with friends online (with my initial help). Now he has multiple friends call him via FaceTime everyday and it is like a virtual play date. They talk, play roblox, anything. We hang out with friends on weekends.

[Anonymous]

How do you work through it…

You give up your old expectations because the world is different. Look at reality and then make changes. Prioritize your kids’ mental health. What does that look like? Does it look like dropping out of school and moving to rural Montana and learning to horseback ride? Does it mean getting an RV and hitting the road? If you accept that school and activities are going to be a roller coaster, you can get off the ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Midwest. I do feel sorry for DC area kids, they have had a terrible time. My kids were back in school in-person August 2020, we started hanging out with friends, eating in restaurants, etc. May 2020. Their lives have been pretty normal for over a year (except wearing masks but adapted fine to that).

The people arguing that that COVID decisions are a personal choice are right, sort of, but if your entire community has chosen to lock down, who would your kids hang out with even if you wanted to be more open? When I tell my DC friends the pandemic basically ended for my area a year ago, they act like I have 2 heads. Ang guess what, our numbers are on par to slightly better than DC area. What was it all for?

In hindsight, I do feel bad for you!

This is the thing that OP and a couple of others are refusing to accept. That there was no need for no school and activities to happen in the DMV. It was a choice and, in my opinion, a very poor choice by people in charge and no outrage from parents. Nor was there any need to close the libraries other than librarians being spoiled snowflakes.
The fact that restaurants opened, bars opened, stores opened, but schools were kept closed for in-person never made any sense to me. Food factories were opened, car sales were open, and everything was open, and it did not cause spikes. If Indiana-based schools can manage the pandemic, this tells how our expensive budget school counties completely failed our kids. They are here to serve the kids, not the teachers but serve teachers' unfounded wishes they did at the expense of our kids.

In MoCo, that means saving the nasty grandma that flips you off every turn in traffic, yells at you at stores, but not our kids. The private schools were open too! I think this is what people in MCPS and FCPS are refusing to see, that it was not the pandemic. It was them.
And in OP's case and some other pp's case, not only did school administration fail our kids, but their parents failed their kids too! By locking them up inside. Remember, child cares were open.
Some parents found a way. In a subdivision next to mine, it is one of those close with parks and houses closer together, kids player together every day. It is a very diverse area, so you saw Indian parents sitting in nice chairs in driveways and their kids running the area and biking, you saw groups of parents of all backgrounds hanging out together too, and their kids playing football altogether. Kids signed up for childcare for kindergarten. I hate to say it, but there are cultures that put kids first. Sadly many in MoCo of all backgrounds did not put the kids first. Look at how many posts we had that a parent was half vaccinated and decided to lock everyone inside for 3 weeks before the second shot, just to be safe! And not just lock them up, as in no even going out biking! And similar insanities.
It allowed some parents with mental illness that was previously in check to let it run rampant! And they still think they did it for their kids' best interest! Look how it changed from saving the elderly to nothing is acceptable bcs now kids are not vaxed! Normal people were able to logically determine risks and were not debating the "plume" infection at the gas station and buying car funnels to pee during a short road trip!

Monday morning quarterbacking. Everyone forgets that we DIDN’T KNOW how seriously this was going to affect kids and frankly we still don’t. If ever a situation called for an abundance of caution it would be during a pandemic. Yeah looking back we probably could have had more schools open but that’s all hindsight. As we see more children being hospitalized with Delta it makes sense that there is a lingering concern. The places that kept schools open took a risk and did so out of an ideological devotion to Trump - not because they were concerned about kids well being.

Could not disagree more. Schools were OPEN all over the DMV, US, and world. We kept them closed here because we prioritized adults over kids; and because the system has always expected that families (mainly women) can absorb the costs of caregiving with minimal support. School closures were a brutal combination of bad politics.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like you have multiple kids so they have some companionship.

After not seeing people, everyone, even the very covid cautious, are willing to socialize. You can meet at a park. Every single person I have reached out to has accepted invitations to hang out. We just recently had a play date with a classmate where I never met the mom and kids have gotten together every week.

My one friend’s kid started virtual kindergarten and her kid made friends via virtual school and at some point met up in real life and had a few play dates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perspective. Life is long if we are lucky. I have a friend whose son missed 4th and 5th grade because of cancer. He’s in 10th grade now and the social isolation from those years is a distant memory. The kids will be all right.

But schools were closed because adults failed kids, not because all kids got cancer.

honestly at this point, if you cannot engage with the actual evidence on schools, risks to kids, and harms of school closure, you shouldn’t be talking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Midwest. I do feel sorry for DC area kids, they have had a terrible time. My kids were back in school in-person August 2020, we started hanging out with friends, eating in restaurants, etc. May 2020. Their lives have been pretty much normal for over a year (except wearing masks but they adapted fine to that).

The people arguing that that COVID decisions are a personal choice are right, sort of, but if your entire community has chosen to lock down, who would your kids hang out with even if you wanted to be more open? When I tell my DC friends the pandemic basically ended for my area a year ago, they act like I have 2 heads. Ang guess what, our numbers are on par to slightly better than DC area. What was it all for?

In hindsight, I do feel bad for you!

I think there is a real misperception how locked down things were here. Of course some families totally isolated, I’m sure, and that would be the case anywhere. But, once we got beyond the very early days of the pandemic, my kids: saw friends almost every day (mostly outside), did an indoor travel sport, ate at restaurants (outside), went on amazing vacations (beach, camping), actually learned something in school, saw grandparents (took precautions the week leading up to the visit, like got tested), etc. And every time I went to places like Logan Circle, Downtown Bethesda, Downtown Silver Spring, etc, people were out eating, shopping and generally getting our. Playgrounds have been packed. Obviously we have adapted somewhat, like our vacations are domestic and more outdoors focused, but who cares, they are still fun. And the kids have enjoyed doing new things with friends like fire pits instead of malls.

Midwest poster here….I hope you are correct. But we have quite a few friends in DC who would say things like “our kids haven’t seen another child in a year” or “I haven’t been out of the house since March” etc. so many DCUMers washing groceries and never going to the grocery store. There is nothing like that here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Midwest. I do feel sorry for DC area kids, they have had a terrible time. My kids were back in school in-person August 2020, we started hanging out with friends, eating in restaurants, etc. May 2020. Their lives have been pretty much normal for over a year (except wearing masks but they adapted fine to that).

The people arguing that that COVID decisions are a personal choice are right, sort of, but if your entire community has chosen to lock down, who would your kids hang out with even if you wanted to be more open? When I tell my DC friends the pandemic basically ended for my area a year ago, they act like I have 2 heads. Ang guess what, our numbers are on par to slightly better than DC area. What was it all for?

In hindsight, I do feel bad for you!

I think there is a real misperception how locked down things were here. Of course some families totally isolated, I’m sure, and that would be the case anywhere. But, once we got beyond the very early days of the pandemic, my kids: saw friends almost every day (mostly outside), did an indoor travel sport, ate at restaurants (outside), went on amazing vacations (beach, camping), actually learned something in school, saw grandparents (took precautions the week leading up to the visit, like got tested), etc. And every time I went to places like Logan Circle, Downtown Bethesda, Downtown Silver Spring, etc, people were out eating, shopping and generally getting our. Playgrounds have been packed. Obviously we have adapted somewhat, like our vacations are domestic and more outdoors focused, but who cares, they are still fun. And the kids have enjoyed doing new things with friends like fire pits instead of malls.

But were your kids in actual school? that’s the big difference. and in DC so many of the facilities were closed - outdoor pools were closed all last summer!