FCV finds its way into ECNL. Loudoun’s days coming to an end

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL R is the “proving ground” for becoming full ECNL. Listen to the town hall. They want as many teams as possible under their umbrella for the 💰

Good luck with that.

Take a look at Tophat for insight into FCV’s future.

https://gasoccerforum.com/thread/4850/tophat-pressure

You are pointing out a discussion that is over a year old?

Is TopHat in ECNL now?

That 07 team that was just “running to ECNL” is still ranked 7th in the Nation.

FCV can’t even touch TopHat in quality or player pool and yet TopHat still isn’t in ECNL.

According to who?!?

Rankings according to Youth Soccer Rankings.

That 07 team has plummeted in the rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:Ecnl-r > GAL

GA is not as good as ECNL but stop with this silliness of ECNL-R being a top league in any way shape or form. As ECNL and GA both continue to expand it is simply a race to the bottom.

I disagree. The mid Atlantic ecnl-r teams would do well in the GAL mid Atlantic.

Well arlington was average to above average in GA but you think their 2nd team would do well in Ga? Does not make sense unless you think there is little difference between their teams?

No. I think ecnl-r teams would do well in the GAL. Nothing about 2nd teams

You people are missing the point of ECNL-r. It doesn’t matter which league has better teams. They serve different purposes. ECNL and GAL are national leagues for players interested in getting maximum college exposure, showcases, etc. ECNL-r players are generally done playing after high school. Just because a player is in ECNL-R doesn’t mean they are inferior. Just that they are not likely to play in college.

I’m just saying that the GAL clubs are weak and on the same level as ECNL-R clubs. GAL may be a national league but everyone knows how weak most of the clubs are in GAL. The local ECNL-R clubs are just as good or better than most GAL clubs. Top ECNL-R girls will be recruited at the same level as GAL players. Don’t be naive to thinking this is a pathway to ECNL for FCV, which frankly these days is a glorified CCL club looking for a way to transition to Springfield

This is a pathway. Jealousy is unbecoming.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^They probably would if the club was full ECNL. This might be in the grand master plan for the St. James-local fields and ultimate admittance to ECNL through VIVA, replacing BRYC, which is struggling across all age groups in both genders.

Look for FCV players to show up at VIVA games this fall and that will be a clue…

They will not get in ECNL and ECNL-R is not ECNL.

And here we go again. Keep stomping those feet!

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Anonymous wrote:^^^They probably would if the club was full ECNL. This might be in the grand master plan for the St. James-local fields and ultimate admittance to ECNL through VIVA, replacing BRYC, which is struggling across all age groups in both genders.

Look for FCV players to show up at VIVA games this fall and that will be a clue…

They will not get in ECNL and ECNL-R is not ECNL.

And here we go again. Keep stomping those feet!

The poster is right

US Club Soccer is ECNL.
US Club soccer is NPL

NPL was made ECNL-R and structured like ECNL for specific purposes.

US Club soccer is teaching US Soccer how it’s done. 😂

FCV is not getting ECNL while staying in their current location. Period. End of Story.

FCV must move into BRYC territory and work something out with ECNL to have a chance

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^^^And that is exactly what FCV is positioning itself to do. VIVA is in Annandale near the St. James. Get rid of underperforming BRYC and it’s a done deal.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^And that is exactly what FCV is positioning itself to do. VIVA is in Annandale near the St. James. Get rid of underperforming BRYC and it’s a done deal.

Bryc leaving doesn’t give ECNL to FCV….do you understand?

It’s a geographical think. FCV must leave Loudoun and move to BRYC territory to get it. Hopefully you understand the reason…..

And that’s a big IF….I see Skyline FC taking over any new spots.

You heard it here first.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^And that is exactly what FCV is positioning itself to do. VIVA is in Annandale near the St. James. Get rid of underperforming BRYC and it’s a done deal.

NOVA doesn’t need another ECNL club and BRYC leaving doesn’t necessarily mean FCV is in either. The reason BRYC is so bad will not be changed by FCV moving there. BRYC is surrounded by ECNL clubs and already being a poor performer keeps them from drawing quality players when VDA, Arlington and McLean/Union are better draws and overlap geographically. Virginia clubs that would get ECNL before FCV would be Skyline and Beach.

But North and South Carolina need more clubs so that ECNL can realign and condense divisions.

Adding 2 more VA clubs could make for a reasonably sized division with less travel. But North and South Carolina need to add clubs too.

What is keeping FCV out of ECNL are a couple of things.

1. Over saturation in NOVA
2. Politics
3. Lack of a boys side. (Yes Villarreal address that but those other issues just complicate it. Also, with Evergreen where will FCV be isn’t going to help.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^And that is exactly what FCV is positioning itself to do. VIVA is in Annandale near the St. James. Get rid of underperforming BRYC and it’s a done deal.

NOVA doesn’t need another ECNL club and BRYC leaving doesn’t necessarily mean FCV is in either. The reason BRYC is so bad will not be changed by FCV moving there. BRYC is surrounded by ECNL clubs and already being a poor performer keeps them from drawing quality players when VDA, Arlington and McLean/Union are better draws and overlap geographically. Virginia clubs that would get ECNL before FCV would be Skyline and Beach.

But North and South Carolina need more clubs so that ECNL can realign and condense divisions.

Adding 2 more VA clubs could make for a reasonably sized division with less travel. But North and South Carolina need to add clubs too.

What is keeping FCV out of ECNL are a couple of things.

1. Over saturation in NOVA
2. Politics
3. Lack of a boys side. (Yes Villarreal address that but those other issues just complicate it. Also, with Evergreen where will FCV be isn’t going to help.

Saturation and proximity to an existing member. That’s it

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Anonymous wrote:Ecnl-r > GAL

GA is not as good as ECNL but stop with this silliness of ECNL-R being a top league in any way shape or form. As ECNL and GA both continue to expand it is simply a race to the bottom.

I disagree. The mid Atlantic ecnl-r teams would do well in the GAL mid Atlantic.

Well arlington was average to above average in GA but you think their 2nd team would do well in Ga? Does not make sense unless you think there is little difference between their teams?

No. I think ecnl-r teams would do well in the GAL. Nothing about 2nd teams

You people are missing the point of ECNL-r. It doesn’t matter which league has better teams. They serve different purposes. ECNL and GAL are national leagues for players interested in getting maximum college exposure, showcases, etc. ECNL-r players are generally done playing after high school. Just because a player is in ECNL-R doesn’t mean they are inferior. Just that they are not likely to play in college.

I’m just saying that the GAL clubs are weak and on the same level as ECNL-R clubs. GAL may be a national league but everyone knows how weak most of the clubs are in GAL. The local ECNL-R clubs are just as good or better than most GAL clubs. Top ECNL-R girls will be recruited at the same level as GAL players. Don’t be naive to thinking this is a pathway to ECNL for FCV, which frankly these days is a glorified CCL club looking for a way to transition to Springfield

This is a pathway. Jealousy is unbecoming.

LOL ECNLr is for the second teams. It is not a pathway to anything. You really think ECNL will spend any time or resources pushing ECNLr to colleges?I got a bridge to sell you. ECNL’s path way in ECNL. GA will be better vs ECNLr any day of the week for anyone interested in college.

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This is pathing that wasn't working when FCV and BRYC attempted a back door partnership. Starting in ECNL - R is requisite to show readiness to advance. Similar to the Cleveland Force starting ECNL R and now going ECNL. Give the pathing 2-3 years and they may very well be ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:This is pathing that wasn't working when FCV and BRYC attempted a back door partnership. Starting in ECNL - R is requisite to show readiness to advance. Similar to the Cleveland Force starting ECNL R and now going ECNL. Give the pathing 2-3 years and they may very well be ECNL

That would require FCVs B teams to dominate ECNL-R.

That’s not going to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:This is pathing that wasn't working when FCV and BRYC attempted a back door partnership. Starting in ECNL - R is requisite to show readiness to advance. Similar to the Cleveland Force starting ECNL R and now going ECNL. Give the pathing 2-3 years and they may very well be ECNL

That would require FCVs B teams to dominate ECNL-R.

That’s not going to happen.

Incorrect. A team can play on B - they will have to do this to get their heavy rosters playing time. Some teams have 22+

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Anonymous wrote:This is pathing that wasn't working when FCV and BRYC attempted a back door partnership. Starting in ECNL - R is requisite to show readiness to advance. Similar to the Cleveland Force starting ECNL R and now going ECNL. Give the pathing 2-3 years and they may very well be ECNL

That would require FCVs B teams to dominate ECNL-R.

That’s not going to happen.

Incorrect. A team can play on B - they will have to do this to get their heavy rosters playing time. Some teams have 22+

They can but they will not want to and they will not be asked to do so either especially during recruiting years. Only dual roster or subs would ever play in a ECNL-R game.

This just isn’t going to work out the way you think or hope it will. If you want to play in ECNL then go to anyone of several ECNL clubs now versus hoping something happens.

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Anonymous wrote:This is pathing that wasn't working when FCV and BRYC attempted a back door partnership. Starting in ECNL - R is requisite to show readiness to advance. Similar to the Cleveland Force starting ECNL R and now going ECNL. Give the pathing 2-3 years and they may very well be ECNL

That would require FCVs B teams to dominate ECNL-R.

That’s not going to happen.

Incorrect. A team can play on B - they will have to do this to get their heavy rosters playing time. Some teams have 22+

So the DA-rostered players will be playing games against NPL teams?

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Anonymous wrote:This is pathing that wasn't working when FCV and BRYC attempted a back door partnership. Starting in ECNL - R is requisite to show readiness to advance. Similar to the Cleveland Force starting ECNL R and now going ECNL. Give the pathing 2-3 years and they may very well be ECNL

That would require FCVs B teams to dominate ECNL-R.

That’s not going to happen.

Incorrect. A team can play on B - they will have to do this to get their heavy rosters playing time. Some teams have 22+

So the DA-rostered players will be playing games against NPL teams?

No other way to give 20+ A team players enough game time.