When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

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Anonymous wrote:I was told that vaccines don’t matter and schools are safe. Why does vaccination rates matter if schools were safe in August 2020 before the vaccine?


I was told that teachers should only return to in-person teaching when they are vaccinated.....#Onlywhenitssafe


Vaccine is available. They can take it or not. It’s safe. Vaccinations don’t matter for schools to open.


I mean, the powers that be did not agree with this and kept school buildings closed for a year and a half because of it. Why would they change their minds now? Teachers argued that schools were definitely not safe.


Doesn’t matter what teachers think. School is safe. Why are parents now concerned with vaccine rate. School is safe. It was safe before the vaccine and it’s safe now.


Did you believe school was safe before? Did you argue vociferously that it was, with your school's principal? Did you write to your representatives in government and the various agencies in charge of making the decisions to open school buildings? If you are an educator, did you argue with WTU (if you are in DCPS) that teachers should teach in person immediately?


Actually yes I did. I wrote to all of my kids teachers showing research and telling them it was safe. I wrote to every council member and Dr Nesbit monthly. I emailed the local news stations. I emailed all of the deputy chancellors and Ferebee every other month. I emailed OSSE every month. I had signs out in my front yard in NW saying it was safe to open schools. I’m not sure why you accuse me of not doing enough. Did you do as much as me? Did you work as tirelessly as I did to reopen?

I don’t care about vaccination rates. It’s safe. And if you all get caught up in this argument you are reinforcing the fact that it was “unsafe” before vaccination. It doesn’t matter how many teachers have the shots. It didn’t matter before and it doesn’t matter now.


You have zero boundaries. Opening had nothing to do with your kids teachers or even at the school level. You don't harass teachers. If you had put half as much time into helping your kids on virtual then they probably would have had a better time with it.


Thanks for your concern. My kids actually did great at distance learning. I used to be a teacher, so my kids were fine.

Still doesn’t change anything. It was safe before and it’s safe now. Vaccination rates don’t matter. Focusing on that makes reinforces that it wasn’t safe before. This is a dumb argument. Open the schools. Send your kids. It doesn’t matter if the teachers are vaccinated or not.


I agree that schools were safe even before the vaccine. With the vaccine - as long as the adults in the building are vaccinated - school is safe. But here’s the thing: even though these things are true, schools were closed for fifteen months. And all the things people did to advocate for kids being in school did nothing to change that. Teachers wanted to wait for the vaccine. Well, it’s here. So schools should open, right? But if we don’t have at least some sense of whether the adults are vaccinated, the low general rates can be used as a way to block opening schools again. And failing the students. Again.
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Anonymous wrote:I was told that vaccines don’t matter and schools are safe. Why does vaccination rates matter if schools were safe in August 2020 before the vaccine?


I was told that teachers should only return to in-person teaching when they are vaccinated.....#Onlywhenitssafe


Vaccine is available. They can take it or not. It’s safe. Vaccinations don’t matter for schools to open.


I mean, the powers that be did not agree with this and kept school buildings closed for a year and a half because of it. Why would they change their minds now? Teachers argued that schools were definitely not safe.


Doesn’t matter what teachers think. School is safe. Why are parents now concerned with vaccine rate. School is safe. It was safe before the vaccine and it’s safe now.


Did you believe school was safe before? Did you argue vociferously that it was, with your school's principal? Did you write to your representatives in government and the various agencies in charge of making the decisions to open school buildings? If you are an educator, did you argue with WTU (if you are in DCPS) that teachers should teach in person immediately?


Actually yes I did. I wrote to all of my kids teachers showing research and telling them it was safe. I wrote to every council member and Dr Nesbit monthly. I emailed the local news stations. I emailed all of the deputy chancellors and Ferebee every other month. I emailed OSSE every month. I had signs out in my front yard in NW saying it was safe to open schools. I’m not sure why you accuse me of not doing enough. Did you do as much as me? Did you work as tirelessly as I did to reopen?

I don’t care about vaccination rates. It’s safe. And if you all get caught up in this argument you are reinforcing the fact that it was “unsafe” before vaccination. It doesn’t matter how many teachers have the shots. It didn’t matter before and it doesn’t matter now.


You have zero boundaries. Opening had nothing to do with your kids teachers or even at the school level. You don't harass teachers. If you had put half as much time into helping your kids on virtual then they probably would have had a better time with it.


Thanks for your concern. My kids actually did great at distance learning. I used to be a teacher, so my kids were fine.

Still doesn’t change anything. It was safe before and it’s safe now. Vaccination rates don’t matter. Focusing on that makes reinforces that it wasn’t safe before. This is a dumb argument. Open the schools. Send your kids. It doesn’t matter if the teachers are vaccinated or not.


I agree that schools were safe even before the vaccine. With the vaccine - as long as the adults in the building are vaccinated - school is safe. But here’s the thing: even though these things are true, schools were closed for fifteen months. And all the things people did to advocate for kids being in school did nothing to change that. Teachers wanted to wait for the vaccine. Well, it’s here. So schools should open, right? But if we don’t have at least some sense of whether the adults are vaccinated, the low general rates can be used as a way to block opening schools again. And failing the students. Again.


Agree with this. Also, the argument even among the pro-opening people wasn't "school is safe without a vaccine"; it was "school can be safe with various mitigation measures, even without a vaccine." Those mitigation measures were 6-foot distancing, cohorting, masking, etc. Those are things that, if kept in place, mean that all kids can't get in to full-time in-person learning. With vaccines, we would expect that those other mitigation measures could be ended or reduced, and therefore all kids could have normal school.

Also, I would expect that a higher vaccination rate among teachers would send a signal that schools are safe to the parents who have been wary of sending kids to in-person learning. Also, frankly, it can send a signal to actually get vaccinated, since in DC teachers are viewed as community leaders.

Notably, I'm talking about here, in DC, not the various other places across the country that opened without mitigation measures.
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Anonymous wrote:they need to require adult vaccination and let kids lose the masks.


Those two things are unrelated, genius.
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Anonymous wrote:they need to require adult vaccination and let kids lose the masks.


Those two things are unrelated, genius.


no, they aren’t. when adults vaccinate the rates go down low enough that kids don’t need to wear masks because risk is so low (on top of their already very low risk).
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Anonymous wrote:they need to require adult vaccination and let kids lose the masks.


Those two things are unrelated, genius.


no, they aren’t. when adults vaccinate the rates go down low enough that kids don’t need to wear masks because risk is so low (on top of their already very low risk).


It's weird that we've spent a year and a half talking about how one person's actions impact covid rates and it hasn't sunk in yet for the prior poster (the one saying vaccination and masks are unrelated).
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Anonymous wrote:I suspect much of DC is very, very interested in see how many are vaccinated.


The numbers are going to be low.
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Anonymous wrote:I suspect much of DC is very, very interested in see how many are vaccinated.


The numbers are going to be low.


I think the numbers could be less than 50% in some schools while very high at 90% in other schools. You can probably get a rough estimate and figure it out by the number of teachers going back and what percent of kids were able to attend IPL.
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Anonymous wrote:I suspect much of DC is very, very interested in see how many are vaccinated.


The numbers are going to be low.


I think the numbers could be less than 50% in some schools while very high at 90% in other schools. You can probably get a rough estimate and figure it out by the number of teachers going back and what percent of kids were able to attend IPL.


No kids in elementary school will be vaccinated Half can be in middle school. Worrying about teachers vaccinated is silly. You have 1-2 teachers in a classroom with 20-35 unvaccinated students.
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Anonymous wrote:I suspect much of DC is very, very interested in see how many are vaccinated.


The numbers are going to be low.


I think the numbers could be less than 50% in some schools while very high at 90% in other schools. You can probably get a rough estimate and figure it out by the number of teachers going back and what percent of kids were able to attend IPL.


No kids in elementary school will be vaccinated Half can be in middle school. Worrying about teachers vaccinated is silly. You have 1-2 teachers in a classroom with 20-35 unvaccinated students.


Christ this is the dumbest argument. “If an unvaccinated person is around anyone unvaccinated, then no one around the, needs to be vaccinated.” I am literally floored by the stupidity.
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Honestly if the teacher vaccination rates are low, I’m going to have a really tough time following any DCPS protocols for Covid mitigation. I’m really not worried about my kids getting hurt by Covid — the whole point of school closures was to protect the teachers/staff. If they can’t be bothered to protect themselves I see no reason to make my kids do anything more to protect them.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:they need to require adult vaccination and let kids lose the masks.


Those two things are unrelated, genius.


no, they aren’t. when adults vaccinate the rates go down low enough that kids don’t need to wear masks because risk is so low (on top of their already very low risk).


It's weird that we've spent a year and a half talking about how one person's actions impact covid rates and it hasn't sunk in yet for the prior poster (the one saying vaccination and masks are unrelated).


Things have changed a lot in a year and a half.
I agree that whether or not adults are vaccinated, kids need to stay masked.
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Where is the data on teacher vaccinations? Other government employees, such as the police department, have reported their vaccination rates. National teachers unions including the NEA have also published their data. Why don’t we have vaccination rates among DC teachers?
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Anonymous wrote:Where is the data on teacher vaccinations? Other government employees, such as the police department, have reported their vaccination rates. National teachers unions including the NEA have also published their data. Why don’t we have vaccination rates among DC teachers?


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Anonymous wrote:Where is the data on teacher vaccinations? Other government employees, such as the police department, have reported their vaccination rates. National teachers unions including the NEA have also published their data. Why don’t we have vaccination rates among DC teachers?


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I'm so tired of teachers acting like they have special privacy rights/concerns.
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Anonymous wrote:Where is the data on teacher vaccinations? Other government employees, such as the police department, have reported their vaccination rates. National teachers unions including the NEA have also published their data. Why don’t we have vaccination rates among DC teachers?


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I'm so tired of teachers acting like they have special privacy rights/concerns.


Maybe they are just acting like they have regular privacy rights. Few employers are in a position to ask if you are vaccinated and I don’t think any can release that info to the public without your permission.
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