Do DC parents still blame teacher unions for everything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I never blamed the teachers unions because I’m not an ignorant MAGA asshole.

But you lack of critical thinking makes you just like them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I suddenly care very much what my elected officials think of WTU. If they are in favor of WTU, I will most likely vote against them.

It’s fine we all know you’ll be moving to MCPS in a few years anyway

[Anonymous]

I think that WTU gave charter teachers cover and boxed charter leaders into a corner in terms of what they could do. I don't think individual DCPS teachers behaved any better or worse than individual charter teachers, but to pretend the WTU's stance had no effect on charter schools in DC is bonkers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

This. Exactly this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

I mean that’s a cool rhetoric but it’s just not true. Have you ever read the things that WTU asked for?
Look, you can feed me private and parochial are open all day long but the reason this took so long at most schools, and some are still struggling, is that there are a ton of logistics to consider. To open, schools had to consider all of these things.


*cdc guidelines
*DCDOH guidelines
*parent demand
*fmla/ada accommodations for staff
*making all the physical modifications to the schools

Do you know when DCPS actually started to take these things seriously and begin to plan? In November, after the sick out day. Prior to that, there was no plan and schools had no formal guidelines on what reopening looked like.
I’m sure it makes people feel better to blame the WTU bc they were painted as the face against reopening. And yes, some of their actions weren’t ideal. But, to blame them for schools not being open is lazy and doesn’t help fix the bigger problems, which is, what the hell was DCPS and the Mayors office doing from April to November.

Logistics like the CDC guidelines that were heavily influenced by the AFT, panned by large swaths of the public health community, and are falling like dominoes?
Physical modifications like plexiglass that were not recommended?
Daylong closures for performative cleaning long after people knew that surfaces is not how COVID is transmitted?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame:
- the union
- the mayor
- that worthless Ferebee
- the teachers themselves

don't forget our worthless city council.

I feel truly blessed to not have parents like this. I'm on maternity leave so my kids had to to virtual for these last 4 weeks but even when we were virtual last year I cannot imagine them blaming me like this.

As if I have the power to change the districts mind. The WTU contract has been expired for years, IMPACT is still very much intact, and DCPS still doesn't support it's teachers. Those are things 99% of teachers really care about. If we are so powerful even after 10 years why hasn't it changed?

What makes the pandemic so special that you all really think the WTU has that much power? We lost our president a while ago, if we were 'strong' DCPS could have easily said, 'Ok last 6 weeks IPL for everyone.'

But we all must blame someone. A public school teacher seems like an easy target. Women love to tear each other down after all.

Teachers refused to show up for work. They effectively went on an illegal strike. Even as daycares, private schools and public schools almost everywhere else were open. This isn't that complicated.

I’m continuously amazed that parents on this board continue to bring up that single day work stoppage like it was some big, terrible event. It was basically just like another Wednesday! If DL is so bad and you and your kids hate it so much, who cares if teachers skipped one day of online instruction this year?

PP is a troll. PP doesn’t even have kids in DCPS. Just some angry person who feels the need to constantly lash out at people. Clearly, PP has some issues.

Go ahead and keep believing that we’re not actual DCPS parents. Do you realize there are many very angry parents right now this very second with kids still stuck in DL? While we’ve been vaccinated for months and bars are open to full capacity?

Please leave! You are a big ball of rage. Society is bigger than just you. You need to go move to Montana and live off the grid away from people who are different because you can’t handle it.

Or maybe there are more of us than you think. I used to be a leader of a public service union and after this year, I have finally seen the damage that is possible when labor unions stop having the public good in mind and start behaving exclusively in their own interests, like police unions. We NEVER would have thought about using any action which would hurt the less powerful. The WTU hurt kids. They give the rest of our unions a bad name.

Great comparison, especially the in-group mentality where they only look out for their own.

[Anonymous]

Eh, I think we are cognizant that most of the attacks on teachers and teachers’ unions are rooted deeply in sexism (and in DC) in racism. It’s sad to see how women so quickly took up the rhetoric of the patriarchy. If the mayor had wanted schools open earlier, she would have prioritized schools over bars and restaurants and vaccinated teachers first, renovated schools, opened up excess buildings, and generally supported schools to open as quickly as possible. The science has evolved as we learned more - you can’t blame teachers for not trusting DCPS and not wanting to go back to an unventilated building pre-vaccination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eh, I think we are cognizant that most of the attacks on teachers and teachers’ unions are rooted deeply in sexism (and in DC) in racism. It’s sad to see how women so quickly took up the rhetoric of the patriarchy. If the mayor had wanted schools open earlier, she would have prioritized schools over bars and restaurants and vaccinated teachers first, renovated schools, opened up excess buildings, and generally supported schools to open as quickly as possible. The science has evolved as we learned more - you can’t blame teachers for not trusting DCPS and not wanting to go back to an unventilated building pre-vaccination.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eh, I think we are cognizant that most of the attacks on teachers and teachers’ unions are rooted deeply in sexism (and in DC) in racism. It’s sad to see how women so quickly took up the rhetoric of the patriarchy. If the mayor had wanted schools open earlier, she would have prioritized schools over bars and restaurants and vaccinated teachers first, renovated schools, opened up excess buildings, and generally supported schools to open as quickly as possible. The science has evolved as we learned more - you can’t blame teachers for not trusting DCPS and not wanting to go back to an unventilated building pre-vaccination.

+1

Any my org doesn’t have a return to office plan but my kid is back in person. So hello I want to blame WTU for everything because ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eh, I think we are cognizant that most of the attacks on teachers and teachers’ unions are rooted deeply in sexism (and in DC) in racism. It’s sad to see how women so quickly took up the rhetoric of the patriarchy. If the mayor had wanted schools open earlier, she would have prioritized schools over bars and restaurants and vaccinated teachers first, renovated schools, opened up excess buildings, and generally supported schools to open as quickly as possible. The science has evolved as we learned more - you can’t blame teachers for not trusting DCPS and not wanting to go back to an unventilated building pre-vaccination.

Ha! This is all 100 percent nonsense. Coronavirus levels in August were so low in DC that coronavirus was practically nonexistent. Every major medical association said it was safe for schools to reopen. So daycares opened. Private schools opened. Public schools almost everywhere outside the DMV opened. Bowser wanted public schools to reopen too but teachers refused to do their job because WTU saw an opportunity to turn the pandemic into an extended paid vacation, everyone else be damned. No one is going to forget what WTU did to their families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

I mean that’s a cool rhetoric but it’s just not true. Have you ever read the things that WTU asked for?
Look, you can feed me private and parochial are open all day long but the reason this took so long at most schools, and some are still struggling, is that there are a ton of logistics to consider. To open, schools had to consider all of these things.


*cdc guidelines
*DCDOH guidelines
*parent demand
*fmla/ada accommodations for staff
*making all the physical modifications to the schools

Do you know when DCPS actually started to take these things seriously and begin to plan? In November, after the sick out day. Prior to that, there was no plan and schools had no formal guidelines on what reopening looked like.
I’m sure it makes people feel better to blame the WTU bc they were painted as the face against reopening. And yes, some of their actions weren’t ideal. But, to blame them for schools not being open is lazy and doesn’t help fix the bigger problems, which is, what the hell was DCPS and the Mayors office doing from April to November.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Collective Bargaining for Public Employees should be outlawed. It's antidemocratic.

I can’t believe this, but I agree with you. The interests of a private organization not under the control of an elected official should not have such a big role in public policy.

Saying that dcps teachers shouldn’t have collective bargaining is anti black. Just say you’re a white Supremacist fascist and go.

there’s nothing more racist than thinking black kids should have the same access to education as white kids!

False argument.

No one said black kids shouldn’t have school. They said teachers shouldn’t die to make school happen.

But keep gaslighting vs raising your kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame:
- the union
- the mayor
- that worthless Ferebee
- the teachers themselves

don't forget our worthless city council.

I feel truly blessed to not have parents like this. I'm on maternity leave so my kids had to to virtual for these last 4 weeks but even when we were virtual last year I cannot imagine them blaming me like this.

As if I have the power to change the districts mind. The WTU contract has been expired for years, IMPACT is still very much intact, and DCPS still doesn't support it's teachers. Those are things 99% of teachers really care about. If we are so powerful even after 10 years why hasn't it changed?

What makes the pandemic so special that you all really think the WTU has that much power? We lost our president a while ago, if we were 'strong' DCPS could have easily said, 'Ok last 6 weeks IPL for everyone.'

But we all must blame someone. A public school teacher seems like an easy target. Women love to tear each other down after all.

Teachers refused to show up for work. They effectively went on an illegal strike. Even as daycares, private schools and public schools almost everywhere else were open. This isn't that complicated.

I’m continuously amazed that parents on this board continue to bring up that single day work stoppage like it was some big, terrible event. It was basically just like another Wednesday! If DL is so bad and you and your kids hate it so much, who cares if teachers skipped one day of online instruction this year?

So you’re saying Wednesdays this year were a complete loss of 20% of instructional time anyway so why would this matter? Hmm. I’d have to agree with you but it’s not an argument that makes anyone look good.

You do know your kid got more instructional time this year than in the past right? You know that a kid isn’t getting instruction from the moment they walk in to when they leave? You know that about half the day is lining up and getting to the next activity

Also wtu didn’t make Wednesday cleaning day. Your teacher can’t randomly say we have mandatory class on Wednesday in school because they heard from clueless, whiny moms on DCUM

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Collective Bargaining for Public Employees should be outlawed. It's antidemocratic.

I can’t believe this, but I agree with you. The interests of a private organization not under the control of an elected official should not have such a big role in public policy.

Saying that dcps teachers shouldn’t have collective bargaining is anti black. Just say you’re a white Supremacist fascist and go.

+1

Intersectional feminists don’t disenfranchise other women to suit their needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame:
- the union
- the mayor
- that worthless Ferebee
- the teachers themselves

don't forget our worthless city council.

I feel truly blessed to not have parents like this. I'm on maternity leave so my kids had to to virtual for these last 4 weeks but even when we were virtual last year I cannot imagine them blaming me like this.

As if I have the power to change the districts mind. The WTU contract has been expired for years, IMPACT is still very much intact, and DCPS still doesn't support it's teachers. Those are things 99% of teachers really care about. If we are so powerful even after 10 years why hasn't it changed?

What makes the pandemic so special that you all really think the WTU has that much power? We lost our president a while ago, if we were 'strong' DCPS could have easily said, 'Ok last 6 weeks IPL for everyone.'

But we all must blame someone. A public school teacher seems like an easy target. Women love to tear each other down after all.

Teachers refused to show up for work. They effectively went on an illegal strike. Even as daycares, private schools and public schools almost everywhere else were open. This isn't that complicated.

I’m continuously amazed that parents on this board continue to bring up that single day work stoppage like it was some big, terrible event. It was basically just like another Wednesday! If DL is so bad and you and your kids hate it so much, who cares if teachers skipped one day of online instruction this year?

So you’re saying Wednesdays this year were a complete loss of 20% of instructional time anyway so why would this matter? Hmm. I’d have to agree with you but it’s not an argument that makes anyone look good.

You do know your kid got more instructional time this year than in the past right? You know that a kid isn’t getting instruction from the moment they walk in to when they leave? You know that about half the day is lining up and getting to the next activity

Also wtu didn’t make Wednesday cleaning day. Your teacher can’t randomly say we have mandatory class on Wednesday in school because they heard from clueless, whiny moms on DCUM

Nobody’s kids learned anything this year unless they went to private school. This year was a complete waste of time because of the selfishness of WTU