Do DC parents still blame teacher unions for everything?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Collective Bargaining for Public Employees should be outlawed. It's antidemocratic.

I can’t believe this, but I agree with you. The interests of a private organization not under the control of an elected official should not have such a big role in public policy.

Saying that dcps teachers shouldn’t have collective bargaining is anti black. Just say you’re a white Supremacist fascist and go.

lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Collective Bargaining for Public Employees should be outlawed. It's antidemocratic.

I can’t believe this, but I agree with you. The interests of a private organization not under the control of an elected official should not have such a big role in public policy.

Saying that dcps teachers shouldn’t have collective bargaining is anti black. Just say you’re a white Supremacist fascist and go.

there’s nothing more racist than thinking black kids should have the same access to education as white kids!

[Anonymous]

I'm also lost as to how the progressive stance is "school is bad for Black kids." I mean, do you think Black kids should continue to get an inferior education through DL? Or that schools should be closed completely because schools "isn't safe" for Black kids?

[Anonymous]

Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame:
- the union
- the mayor
- that worthless Ferebee
- the teachers themselves

don't forget our worthless city council.

I feel truly blessed to not have parents like this. I'm on maternity leave so my kids had to to virtual for these last 4 weeks but even when we were virtual last year I cannot imagine them blaming me like this.

As if I have the power to change the districts mind. The WTU contract has been expired for years, IMPACT is still very much intact, and DCPS still doesn't support it's teachers. Those are things 99% of teachers really care about. If we are so powerful even after 10 years why hasn't it changed?

What makes the pandemic so special that you all really think the WTU has that much power? We lost our president a while ago, if we were 'strong' DCPS could have easily said, 'Ok last 6 weeks IPL for everyone.'

But we all must blame someone. A public school teacher seems like an easy target. Women love to tear each other down after all.

Teachers refused to show up for work. They effectively went on an illegal strike. Even as daycares, private schools and public schools almost everywhere else were open. This isn't that complicated.

I’m continuously amazed that parents on this board continue to bring up that single day work stoppage like it was some big, terrible event. It was basically just like another Wednesday! If DL is so bad and you and your kids hate it so much, who cares if teachers skipped one day of online instruction this year?

PP is a troll. PP doesn’t even have kids in DCPS. Just some angry person who feels the need to constantly lash out at people. Clearly, PP has some issues.

Go ahead and keep believing that we’re not actual DCPS parents. Do you realize there are many very angry parents right now this very second with kids still stuck in DL? While we’ve been vaccinated for months and bars are open to full capacity?

Please leave! You are a big ball of rage. Society is bigger than just you. You need to go move to Montana and live off the grid away from people who are different because you can’t handle it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

I mean that’s a cool rhetoric but it’s just not true. Have you ever read the things that WTU asked for?
Look, you can feed me private and parochial are open all day long but the reason this took so long at most schools, and some are still struggling, is that there are a ton of logistics to consider. To open, schools had to consider all of these things.


*cdc guidelines
*DCDOH guidelines
*parent demand
*fmla/ada accommodations for staff
*making all the physical modifications to the schools

Do you know when DCPS actually started to take these things seriously and begin to plan? In November, after the sick out day. Prior to that, there was no plan and schools had no formal guidelines on what reopening looked like.
I’m sure it makes people feel better to blame the WTU bc they were painted as the face against reopening. And yes, some of their actions weren’t ideal. But, to blame them for schools not being open is lazy and doesn’t help fix the bigger problems, which is, what the hell was DCPS and the Mayors office doing from April to November.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

This is where I come down too. I get that organizations use moments of crisis to leverage things, but keeping kids education hostage is beyond the pale. We all knew DCPS was an administrative disaster, but I don't think we appreciated how poorly run the WTU was as well. I never appreciated how fragile the school system was until all this unfolded. Its unforgivable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I blame:
- the union
- the mayor
- that worthless Ferebee
- the teachers themselves

don't forget our worthless city council.

I feel truly blessed to not have parents like this. I'm on maternity leave so my kids had to to virtual for these last 4 weeks but even when we were virtual last year I cannot imagine them blaming me like this.

As if I have the power to change the districts mind. The WTU contract has been expired for years, IMPACT is still very much intact, and DCPS still doesn't support it's teachers. Those are things 99% of teachers really care about. If we are so powerful even after 10 years why hasn't it changed?

What makes the pandemic so special that you all really think the WTU has that much power? We lost our president a while ago, if we were 'strong' DCPS could have easily said, 'Ok last 6 weeks IPL for everyone.'

But we all must blame someone. A public school teacher seems like an easy target. Women love to tear each other down after all.

Teachers refused to show up for work. They effectively went on an illegal strike. Even as daycares, private schools and public schools almost everywhere else were open. This isn't that complicated.

I’m continuously amazed that parents on this board continue to bring up that single day work stoppage like it was some big, terrible event. It was basically just like another Wednesday! If DL is so bad and you and your kids hate it so much, who cares if teachers skipped one day of online instruction this year?

PP is a troll. PP doesn’t even have kids in DCPS. Just some angry person who feels the need to constantly lash out at people. Clearly, PP has some issues.

Go ahead and keep believing that we’re not actual DCPS parents. Do you realize there are many very angry parents right now this very second with kids still stuck in DL? While we’ve been vaccinated for months and bars are open to full capacity?

Please leave! You are a big ball of rage. Society is bigger than just you. You need to go move to Montana and live off the grid away from people who are different because you can’t handle it.

Yes, I am sure the WTU would prefer that people either move away or forget how they obstructed school re-opening this year. That would be convenient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

I mean that’s a cool rhetoric but it’s just not true. Have you ever read the things that WTU asked for?
Look, you can feed me private and parochial are open all day long but the reason this took so long at most schools, and some are still struggling, is that there are a ton of logistics to consider. To open, schools had to consider all of these things.


*cdc guidelines
*DCDOH guidelines
*parent demand
*fmla/ada accommodations for staff
*making all the physical modifications to the schools

Do you know when DCPS actually started to take these things seriously and begin to plan? In November, after the sick out day. Prior to that, there was no plan and schools had no formal guidelines on what reopening looked like.
I’m sure it makes people feel better to blame the WTU bc they were painted as the face against reopening. And yes, some of their actions weren’t ideal. But, to blame them for schools not being open is lazy and doesn’t help fix the bigger problems, which is, what the hell was DCPS and the Mayors office doing from April to November.

No, they asked for teachers to be allowed to stay home if they wanted to, with no fmla or aca requirement. You are listing what they got, not what they asked for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

I mean that’s a cool rhetoric but it’s just not true. Have you ever read the things that WTU asked for?
Look, you can feed me private and parochial are open all day long but the reason this took so long at most schools, and some are still struggling, is that there are a ton of logistics to consider. To open, schools had to consider all of these things.


*cdc guidelines
*DCDOH guidelines
*parent demand
*fmla/ada accommodations for staff
*making all the physical modifications to the schools

Do you know when DCPS actually started to take these things seriously and begin to plan? In November, after the sick out day. Prior to that, there was no plan and schools had no formal guidelines on what reopening looked like.
I’m sure it makes people feel better to blame the WTU bc they were painted as the face against reopening. And yes, some of their actions weren’t ideal. But, to blame them for schools not being open is lazy and doesn’t help fix the bigger problems, which is, what the hell was DCPS and the Mayors office doing from April to November.

blah blah blah, schools are STILL closed to most children in DC, today, because of WTU advocacy. Meanwhile, this weekend I can go to a fully crowded Nats game, sans mask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone on here not have a need to vilify/blame ANYONE in the whole world?

I don’t and all the DCPS parents I know were concerned with keeping everyone safe during the pandemic. We all know that the pandemic obliterated child care, which placed a heavy burden on women. We recognized that covid was worse for minorities. We all knew someone who died from covid. This hasn’t been an easy time for anyone. The idea that teachers were sitting around eating bonbons —or whatever the angry folks think— is just absurd! Covid has sucked for everyone!! But vilifying one group is not the way to solve anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

I mean that’s a cool rhetoric but it’s just not true. Have you ever read the things that WTU asked for?
Look, you can feed me private and parochial are open all day long but the reason this took so long at most schools, and some are still struggling, is that there are a ton of logistics to consider. To open, schools had to consider all of these things.


*cdc guidelines
*DCDOH guidelines
*parent demand
*fmla/ada accommodations for staff
*making all the physical modifications to the schools

Do you know when DCPS actually started to take these things seriously and begin to plan? In November, after the sick out day. Prior to that, there was no plan and schools had no formal guidelines on what reopening looked like.
I’m sure it makes people feel better to blame the WTU bc they were painted as the face against reopening. And yes, some of their actions weren’t ideal. But, to blame them for schools not being open is lazy and doesn’t help fix the bigger problems, which is, what the hell was DCPS and the Mayors office doing from April to November.

blah blah blah, schools are STILL closed to most children in DC, today, because of WTU advocacy. Meanwhile, this weekend I can go to a fully crowded Nats game, sans mask.

You are certainly welcome to believe what you want. It’s cool - have a great day!

[Anonymous]

I suddenly care very much what my elected officials think of WTU. If they are in favor of WTU, I will most likely vote against them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, obviously unions are supposed represent the interests of their members. But it was still crass to see just how single-mindedly WTU fought any reasonable compromise to reopen. Tooth and nail, no matter how much families were suffering. That's just not a good look and it probably cost teachers quite a bit of goodwill for years to come.

This is where I come down too. I get that organizations use moments of crisis to leverage things, but keeping kids education hostage is beyond the pale. We all knew DCPS was an administrative disaster, but I don't think we appreciated how poorly run the WTU was as well. I never appreciated how fragile the school system was until all this unfolded. Its unforgivable.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame:
- the union
- the mayor
- that worthless Ferebee
- the teachers themselves

don't forget our worthless city council.

I feel truly blessed to not have parents like this. I'm on maternity leave so my kids had to to virtual for these last 4 weeks but even when we were virtual last year I cannot imagine them blaming me like this.

As if I have the power to change the districts mind. The WTU contract has been expired for years, IMPACT is still very much intact, and DCPS still doesn't support it's teachers. Those are things 99% of teachers really care about. If we are so powerful even after 10 years why hasn't it changed?

What makes the pandemic so special that you all really think the WTU has that much power? We lost our president a while ago, if we were 'strong' DCPS could have easily said, 'Ok last 6 weeks IPL for everyone.'

But we all must blame someone. A public school teacher seems like an easy target. Women love to tear each other down after all.

Teachers refused to show up for work. They effectively went on an illegal strike. Even as daycares, private schools and public schools almost everywhere else were open. This isn't that complicated.

I’m continuously amazed that parents on this board continue to bring up that single day work stoppage like it was some big, terrible event. It was basically just like another Wednesday! If DL is so bad and you and your kids hate it so much, who cares if teachers skipped one day of online instruction this year?

PP is a troll. PP doesn’t even have kids in DCPS. Just some angry person who feels the need to constantly lash out at people. Clearly, PP has some issues.

Go ahead and keep believing that we’re not actual DCPS parents. Do you realize there are many very angry parents right now this very second with kids still stuck in DL? While we’ve been vaccinated for months and bars are open to full capacity?

Please leave! You are a big ball of rage. Society is bigger than just you. You need to go move to Montana and live off the grid away from people who are different because you can’t handle it.

Or maybe there are more of us than you think. I used to be a leader of a public service union and after this year, I have finally seen the damage that is possible when labor unions stop having the public good in mind and start behaving exclusively in their own interests, like police unions. We NEVER would have thought about using any action which would hurt the less powerful. The WTU hurt kids. They give the rest of our unions a bad name.