Top 100 undergrad CS by US News

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Anonymous wrote:Any top 100 CS school is fine if you want to get any job.

If a student wants to get the top jobs, then yes the school matters because otherwise, the student isn't getting recruited out of college for internships and jobs, and the first job carries over to the later jobs.

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

Even after getting the job, the salary compensation is different for students recruited from top schools vs. those from the rest. Tech companies fight for top talent and they use top schools as a proxy.

This "school you go to doesn't matter" schtick is tiring. Yes, if you simply want a paper with a Bachelors written on it perhaps. Or you want a simple life and don't mind earning less. But otherwise, it matters so please stop lying to the parents of prospective students.

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

To the top poster quoted above: You’re a dope. Top 100 ranked CS schools are great.

Emory is a top 25 ranked private university, not an unknown regional public. How exactly does that disprove the point at all?

71st ranked in CS. Not a top 25 school. That's the point. The first poster was claiming that top 100 was essentially irrelevant, referencing the tippy top schools CMU and Berkeley. That people saying top 100 are great is a "schtick" that "is tiring". Well that's just plain wrong for CS.

Do you lack basic reading comprehension or are you just an idiot?

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That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

It compares relatively unknown schools like say, Central Illinois University, against schools like CMU or Berkeley.

Emory is not an unknown school.

This discussion is about the top 100, not every school offering CS. Try as I might, I cannot find Central Illinois University in that list of top 100.

Im not entirely sure but I think the point PP was trying to make is that Emory is a top school, even though the CS program may not be the best. It's still a top 25 school and recruiters might prefer an Emory grad or a Georgetown grad or Pomona grad over a Michigan State grad, even though Michigan State has the better program.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me summarize.

Once you go past Txx (let’s say 20 but this is just to put an arbitrary marker) for CS, then the list matters less; the overall reputation of the school and the quality of the individual will count for more.

Some companies only recruit at certain schools.

The ones that offer supranormal comps like prop trading firms recruit (but take resumes from anyone) at selected schools.

The Top 10 (particularly the top 4) on this list enjoy wide agreement as the traditional top schools. The list kind of blurs towards homogeneity after that.

Pretty much.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this an updated list? If so, nothing has changed since last year when they first published CS rankings (June 2020, I think)..

Thanks for posting the list.

Computer Science is not for everyone. Ask hundreds of graduates on Reddit that can’t get a job after applying to hundreds.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this an updated list? If so, nothing has changed since last year when they first published CS rankings (June 2020, I think)..

Thanks for posting the list.

Computer Science is not for everyone. Ask hundreds of graduates on Reddit that can’t get a job after applying to hundreds.

Link?

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Anonymous wrote:Any top 100 CS school is fine if you want to get any job.

If a student wants to get the top jobs, then yes the school matters because otherwise, the student isn't getting recruited out of college for internships and jobs, and the first job carries over to the later jobs.

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

Even after getting the job, the salary compensation is different for students recruited from top schools vs. those from the rest. Tech companies fight for top talent and they use top schools as a proxy.

This "school you go to doesn't matter" schtick is tiring. Yes, if you simply want a paper with a Bachelors written on it perhaps. Or you want a simple life and don't mind earning less. But otherwise, it matters so please stop lying to the parents of prospective students.

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

To the top poster quoted above: You’re a dope. Top 100 ranked CS schools are great.

Emory is a top 25 ranked private university, not an unknown regional public. How exactly does that disprove the point at all?

71st ranked in CS. Not a top 25 school. That's the point. The first poster was claiming that top 100 was essentially irrelevant, referencing the tippy top schools CMU and Berkeley. That people saying top 100 are great is a "schtick" that "is tiring". Well that's just plain wrong for CS.

Do you lack basic reading comprehension or are you just an idiot?

The post states:

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

It compares relatively unknown schools like say, Central Illinois University, against schools like CMU or Berkeley.

Emory is not an unknown school.

This discussion is about the top 100, not every school offering CS. Try as I might, I cannot find Central Illinois University in that list of top 100.

Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20.

So no, not "any school in the top 100" is fine, if you want the top jobs. If you want a simple life making the median salary, it is.

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^ That does not mean that graduates from UT Knoxville, UT Arlington, Michigan Technological University, etc. would never get recruited into top tech companies. They will given they are talented as the top students at these schools tend to be.

But the journey is much tougher, they aren't getting internships and interviews from top companies right on campus, throwing resumes into the ether online, have to prove themselves at other jobs for several years first, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Any top 100 CS school is fine if you want to get any job.

If a student wants to get the top jobs, then yes the school matters because otherwise, the student isn't getting recruited out of college for internships and jobs, and the first job carries over to the later jobs.

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

Even after getting the job, the salary compensation is different for students recruited from top schools vs. those from the rest. Tech companies fight for top talent and they use top schools as a proxy.

This "school you go to doesn't matter" schtick is tiring. Yes, if you simply want a paper with a Bachelors written on it perhaps. Or you want a simple life and don't mind earning less. But otherwise, it matters so please stop lying to the parents of prospective students.

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

To the top poster quoted above: You’re a dope. Top 100 ranked CS schools are great.

Emory is a top 25 ranked private university, not an unknown regional public. How exactly does that disprove the point at all?

71st ranked in CS. Not a top 25 school. That's the point. The first poster was claiming that top 100 was essentially irrelevant, referencing the tippy top schools CMU and Berkeley. That people saying top 100 are great is a "schtick" that "is tiring". Well that's just plain wrong for CS.

Do you lack basic reading comprehension or are you just an idiot?

The post states:

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

It compares relatively unknown schools like say, Central Illinois University, against schools like CMU or Berkeley.

Emory is not an unknown school.

This discussion is about the top 100, not every school offering CS. Try as I might, I cannot find Central Illinois University in that list of top 100.

Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20.

So no, not "any school in the top 100" is fine, if you want the top jobs. If you want a simple life making the median salary, it is.

“Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20”

So I guess you might as well attend any of the above schools since they are not any better than UVA in CS.

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Anonymous wrote:Any top 100 CS school is fine if you want to get any job.

If a student wants to get the top jobs, then yes the school matters because otherwise, the student isn't getting recruited out of college for internships and jobs, and the first job carries over to the later jobs.

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

Even after getting the job, the salary compensation is different for students recruited from top schools vs. those from the rest. Tech companies fight for top talent and they use top schools as a proxy.

This "school you go to doesn't matter" schtick is tiring. Yes, if you simply want a paper with a Bachelors written on it perhaps. Or you want a simple life and don't mind earning less. But otherwise, it matters so please stop lying to the parents of prospective students.

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

To the top poster quoted above: You’re a dope. Top 100 ranked CS schools are great.

Emory is a top 25 ranked private university, not an unknown regional public. How exactly does that disprove the point at all?

71st ranked in CS. Not a top 25 school. That's the point. The first poster was claiming that top 100 was essentially irrelevant, referencing the tippy top schools CMU and Berkeley. That people saying top 100 are great is a "schtick" that "is tiring". Well that's just plain wrong for CS.

Do you lack basic reading comprehension or are you just an idiot?

The post states:

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

It compares relatively unknown schools like say, Central Illinois University, against schools like CMU or Berkeley.

Emory is not an unknown school.

This discussion is about the top 100, not every school offering CS. Try as I might, I cannot find Central Illinois University in that list of top 100.

Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20.

So no, not "any school in the top 100" is fine, if you want the top jobs. If you want a simple life making the median salary, it is.

“Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20”

So I guess you might as well attend any of the above schools since they are not any better than UVA in CS.

Your IQ is far too low for your offsprings to pursue CS, why are you so worried about the rankings to begin with?

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Anonymous wrote:Any top 100 CS school is fine if you want to get any job.

If a student wants to get the top jobs, then yes the school matters because otherwise, the student isn't getting recruited out of college for internships and jobs, and the first job carries over to the later jobs.

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

Even after getting the job, the salary compensation is different for students recruited from top schools vs. those from the rest. Tech companies fight for top talent and they use top schools as a proxy.

This "school you go to doesn't matter" schtick is tiring. Yes, if you simply want a paper with a Bachelors written on it perhaps. Or you want a simple life and don't mind earning less. But otherwise, it matters so please stop lying to the parents of prospective students.

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

To the top poster quoted above: You’re a dope. Top 100 ranked CS schools are great.

Emory is a top 25 ranked private university, not an unknown regional public. How exactly does that disprove the point at all?

71st ranked in CS. Not a top 25 school. That's the point. The first poster was claiming that top 100 was essentially irrelevant, referencing the tippy top schools CMU and Berkeley. That people saying top 100 are great is a "schtick" that "is tiring". Well that's just plain wrong for CS.

Do you lack basic reading comprehension or are you just an idiot?

The post states:

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

It compares relatively unknown schools like say, Central Illinois University, against schools like CMU or Berkeley.

Emory is not an unknown school.

This discussion is about the top 100, not every school offering CS. Try as I might, I cannot find Central Illinois University in that list of top 100.

Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20.

So no, not "any school in the top 100" is fine, if you want the top jobs. If you want a simple life making the median salary, it is.

“Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20”

So I guess you might as well attend any of the above schools since they are not any better than UVA in CS.

Is UVA an unknown school?

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The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

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To be honest, to land the top jobs with top compensation is still a crapshoot from the top schools like MIT, CMU, Stanford... Not every kid from these schools will land the top gigs, only the very best or the well-connected. The rest will just have to settle for the mid-level jobs. DH is in CS field and has had new grads from Berkeley, CMU,...working under him. He said they were good at what they were doing but not that much better than a kid from say VTech. All were getting the same pay.

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, to land the top jobs with top compensation is still a crapshoot from the top schools like MIT, CMU, Stanford... Not every kid from these schools will land the top gigs, only the very best or the well-connected. The rest will just have to settle for the mid-level jobs. DH is in CS field and has had new grads from Berkeley, CMU,...working under him. He said they were good at what they were doing but not that much better than a kid from say VTech. All were getting the same pay.

Of course not everyone will land a 400k offers. But best students from top schools don't typically tend to seek the FAANG type of jobs. In a MIT type of school, the top tier job after graduation is to have your own startup or join a startup. The next best tier is joining top quant trading. FAANG jobs are at best third tier.

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, to land the top jobs with top compensation is still a crapshoot from the top schools like MIT, CMU, Stanford... Not every kid from these schools will land the top gigs, only the very best or the well-connected. The rest will just have to settle for the mid-level jobs. DH is in CS field and has had new grads from Berkeley, CMU,...working under him. He said they were good at what they were doing but not that much better than a kid from say VTech. All were getting the same pay.

Depends on what you mean by top jobs, really.

Being well-connected doesn't help much in engineering unless you are skilled/talented too and its for a startup. They aren't working on Excel spreadsheets like bankers or Powerpoint presentations like McKinsey consultants.

The top jobs are not a crapshoot from MIT, CMU, Stanford, etc. Sure, they won't just hire you because of the name on your resume - and that's a very good thing. You will have to go through the interview process and pass it as anyone else.

But getting the interviews is simply far easier and convenient. There's a difference between submitting online applications versus well-known companies come to campus to recruit you, inviting you to recruiting events, setting up interviews just by talking to you in person, interviewing you on campus, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, to land the top jobs with top compensation is still a crapshoot from the top schools like MIT, CMU, Stanford... Not every kid from these schools will land the top gigs, only the very best or the well-connected. The rest will just have to settle for the mid-level jobs. DH is in CS field and has had new grads from Berkeley, CMU,...working under him. He said they were good at what they were doing but not that much better than a kid from say VTech. All were getting the same pay.

Of course not everyone will land a 400k offers. But best students from top schools don't typically tend to seek the FAANG type of jobs. In a MIT type of school, the top tier job after graduation is to have your own startup or join a startup. The next best tier is joining top quant trading. FAANG jobs are at best third tier.

Found the Ivy humper, computer science edition.

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Anonymous wrote:Any top 100 CS school is fine if you want to get any job.

If a student wants to get the top jobs, then yes the school matters because otherwise, the student isn't getting recruited out of college for internships and jobs, and the first job carries over to the later jobs.

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

Even after getting the job, the salary compensation is different for students recruited from top schools vs. those from the rest. Tech companies fight for top talent and they use top schools as a proxy.

This "school you go to doesn't matter" schtick is tiring. Yes, if you simply want a paper with a Bachelors written on it perhaps. Or you want a simple life and don't mind earning less. But otherwise, it matters so please stop lying to the parents of prospective students.

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

To the top poster quoted above: You’re a dope. Top 100 ranked CS schools are great.

Emory is a top 25 ranked private university, not an unknown regional public. How exactly does that disprove the point at all?

71st ranked in CS. Not a top 25 school. That's the point. The first poster was claiming that top 100 was essentially irrelevant, referencing the tippy top schools CMU and Berkeley. That people saying top 100 are great is a "schtick" that "is tiring". Well that's just plain wrong for CS.

Do you lack basic reading comprehension or are you just an idiot?

The post states:

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

It compares relatively unknown schools like say, Central Illinois University, against schools like CMU or Berkeley.

Emory is not an unknown school.

This discussion is about the top 100, not every school offering CS. Try as I might, I cannot find Central Illinois University in that list of top 100.

Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20.

So no, not "any school in the top 100" is fine, if you want the top jobs. If you want a simple life making the median salary, it is.

“Yet you will see schools like Michigan Technological University, UT at Knoxville, UT at Dallas, University of Tenessee at Knoxville, Colorado State University, etc. on this list. The recruiting from top jobs paying top compensation at these schools does not exist compared to the top 10-20”

So I guess you might as well attend any of the above schools since they are not any better than UVA in CS.

Your IQ is far too low for your offsprings to pursue CS, why are you so worried about the rankings to begin with?

Missed the sarcasm eh?