BS. A standard office tower structure would have been far cheaper than the award winning LEED design they pushed. They should have saved money so they would have reserves for the 4th high school. Pouring all that unfinished concrete is far more expensive then framing out interior walls and drywall. |
OK, well that is on the School Board, not H-B. Again, H-B would have stayed at Vacation Lane and they could have built a middle school -- at some price -- at the Wilson Building. Don't forget after H-B moved out they spent $40 million to expand Vacation Lane as a middle school. So much yelling about adding 200 or 400 seats to H-B, like that would make a difference in overcrowding across the three high comprehensive schools (it would certainly have driven up the cost of building in Rosslyn if they went above 4 stories), when the real issue is that there has been a 10 year failure to appropriately plan and budget across all levels. Plus a refusal by parents to accept the most obvious solution, which is increased CLASS SIZE (not more classes), which has a huge affect on the operating budget per student and affects capacity in lots of ways. If we had bumped them all up by more than 1 or 2 back in 2008, we would have more room, more money, and more flexibility now. But people acted like that was the equivalent of destroying kids' educations, so instead they have been in trailers for 8 years and are now going to high schools where they have no chance of making a team or the school play because we can't afford a fourth high school. |
Stop with the straw man. HB didn’t need expensive building or keeping the largest campus to their tiny school. Wilson site was appropriate, and a functional flexible space would have been a better investment. But they had to be cajoled into moving so they were promised a trophy school. |
DP. APS would have constructed a trophy school regardless. They are not interested in building new, generic schools. |
??? You can't build a multistory building out of drywall. There have to be concrete walls somewhere. And construction costs for buildings over 4 stories are much higher -- it doesn't cost 1.5 times as much to build a 6-story building than a 4-story building, it costs 2x a much. |
I assumed she meant take an existing vacant office building and convert it to a school. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2014/10/08/what-to-do-with-dying-suburban-office-buildings-turn-them-into-schools/ https://www.fastcompany.com/90575297/as-office-buildings-empty-out-heres-one-creative-use-for-all-that-space |
Fairfax got that building for almost nothing in a tax sale, and it is located at Seven Corners. Arlington mainly confines its larger buildings to the metro corridors, where the real estate is very valuable. The 10-story office building literally across the street from H-B is assessed for $150 million. |
Columbia Pike has lots of empty office buildings. Just sayin’ |
What about Wakefield? |
What? Where? |
Aren't there regulations about the kind of features a school needs that make it difficult to find a space to build? Like, green space, etc? I thought I remember John vihstadt saying something about that being one of the challenges to alienating overcrowding in APS. Also I think there is an issue Virginia law making it difficult for the state to take land if an entity doesn't want it. Plus, Arlington is teeny and much of the land is taken up by a golf course, so space is just hard to find.
Does anybody know about issues like this? I agree that the schools should be built in the community centers though. I think there was an effort to build one at Aurora Highlands but the funding went away. I agree with a previous commenter that APS should be more transparent about the challenges to building schools. I'm sure it's somewhere buried on the website and in slide shows, but there is no reason not to make the information easier to access. Because if we knew more about the funding and regulatory hurdles, parents could have a direction for advocacy, instead of just being left to complain. Like, I would be okay with my elementary schooler not having a giant soccer field to play on. |
So it looks like a proposal for the Career Center site will be presented at the May 6 School Board meeting. I'm interested to see what changes they have in store... |
So does Crystal City. |
Any update on what was proposed? |