Projected Overcrowding in High School APSVA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a 4yr old, is there any chance this will be sorted out in 10 years??

Nope they are projecting 1000 more students per grade by the time your kid goes to school.

If they haven't gotten around to building the 4th high school, what is the plan?

Night shifts? DL for half your classes? Double decker trailers and lunch at 9am?


https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Fall-2019-28-APS-Enrollment-Report_v12_.pdf

No one wanted to pay for it when we had the chance. I voted yes- we can always go back and add to an existing high school. They’re not making any more land. I would’ve rather had a new high school than that damn aquatic center.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a 4yr old, is there any chance this will be sorted out in 10 years??

Nope they are projecting 1000 more students per grade by the time your kid goes to school.

If they haven't gotten around to building the 4th high school, what is the plan?

Night shifts? DL for half your classes? Double decker trailers and lunch at 9am?


https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Fall-2019-28-APS-Enrollment-Report_v12_.pdf

No one wanted to pay for it when we had the chance. I voted yes- we can always go back and add to an existing high school. They’re not making any more land. I would’ve rather had a new high school than that damn aquatic center.

Why is each lower grade so much bigger, I though people stopped having as many babies after Recession?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a 4yr old, is there any chance this will be sorted out in 10 years??

Nope they are projecting 1000 more students per grade by the time your kid goes to school.

If they haven't gotten around to building the 4th high school, what is the plan?

Night shifts? DL for half your classes? Double decker trailers and lunch at 9am?


https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Fall-2019-28-APS-Enrollment-Report_v12_.pdf

No one wanted to pay for it when we had the chance. I voted yes- we can always go back and add to an existing high school. They’re not making any more land. I would’ve rather had a new high school than that damn aquatic center.

Why is each lower grade so much bigger, I though people stopped having as many babies after Recession?

People stopped moving to Fairfax when they had kids. We will see if changes in commuting trends changes that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a 4yr old, is there any chance this will be sorted out in 10 years??

Nope they are projecting 1000 more students per grade by the time your kid goes to school.

If they haven't gotten around to building the 4th high school, what is the plan?

Night shifts? DL for half your classes? Double decker trailers and lunch at 9am?


https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Fall-2019-28-APS-Enrollment-Report_v12_.pdf

No one wanted to pay for it when we had the chance. I voted yes- we can always go back and add to an existing high school. They’re not making any more land. I would’ve rather had a new high school than that damn aquatic center.

Why is each lower grade so much bigger, I though people stopped having as many babies after Recession?

People stopped moving to Fairfax when they had kids. We will see if changes in commuting trends changes that.

That should be changing in the pandemic, I think the SB is banking on all those condos and townhouses full of families to empty out now that everyone wants a yard.

[Anonymous]

When were the projections for the supersized WL high school? Was it going to happen 2023, 2030 or what? I remember they talked about night classes and online classes (and my money is betting that online classes will be their go to solution now for overcrowding - kids only go to school every other day or something like that). But when will we know we are at the point they would start considering drastic steps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When were the projections for the supersized WL high school? Was it going to happen 2023, 2030 or what? I remember they talked about night classes and online classes (and my money is betting that online classes will be their go to solution now for overcrowding - kids only go to school every other day or something like that). But when will we know we are at the point they would start considering drastic steps?

Must be close to a decade until WL gets to 3000; they are only 2000 now and Yorktown and Wakefield are actually more crowded.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/U-MEM_281-Membership-Summary-All.pdf

[Anonymous]

Yep, virtual learning is their over crowding plan. 100%

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/03/16/aps-mulls-post-pandemic-virtual-learning-option-for-secondary-students/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep, virtual learning is their over crowding plan. 100%

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/03/16/aps-mulls-post-pandemic-virtual-learning-option-for-secondary-students/

And now because of Covid they actually have an argument for it. Scary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a 4yr old, is there any chance this will be sorted out in 10 years??

Nope they are projecting 1000 more students per grade by the time your kid goes to school.

If they haven't gotten around to building the 4th high school, what is the plan?

Night shifts? DL for half your classes? Double decker trailers and lunch at 9am?


https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Fall-2019-28-APS-Enrollment-Report_v12_.pdf

Is the huge overcrowding at the high school still coming down the pike? Our DD starts in 2 years at W-L and we are wondering if we should be considering private or FFX since we are not interested in any more DL or night school. A 2600 student high school a the tiny W-L site seems grim.

I lost track, have they revisited a 4th high school now that re-opening isn't quite such a burning topic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the huge overcrowding at the high school still coming down the pike? Our DD starts in 2 years at W-L and we are wondering if we should be considering private or FFX since we are not interested in any more DL or night school. A 2600 student high school a the tiny W-L site seems grim.

I lost track, have they revisited a 4th high school now that re-opening isn't quite such a burning topic?

The last I heard about it was during the "Career Center After Action Analysis" on January 14, 2021.

Minutes: https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/files/C2ARW96E5D86/$file/C-1-a%20SBmi011421%20Work%20SEssion%20-%20Career%20Center.pdf
Presentation: https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/files/BX9HTT4A166C/$file/Career%20Center%20After%20Action%20Analysis%20WS%20Presentation%201-14-21.pdf
Recording [see January 14, 2021 session]: https://www.apsva.us/school-board-meetings/school-board-work-sessions-meetings/

I think the consensus was to kick-the-can-down-the-road and plan for the Career Center updates in the FY 2023-32 CIP.

[Anonymous]

It’s time for a new high school. At least acquire the land already!

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile HB Woodlawn has seen zero growth since moving to the new building. They still plan for just around 80 kids per MS grade and around 115 per HS grade. The lottery only accepted 75 6th graders and 26 9th graders (bringing the total 9th grade class next year to just 107 since they currently have 81 8th graders and I’m sure at least one or two will decide to move to another school). They really need to increase their enrollment to 100 per MS grade as promised when plans for them to move to the new building were being discussed. HS grades should each be at 125 at a minimum. They would still be a small program with these numbers.

HB is a perfect example of APS's fraud, waste and abuse of tax payer dollars.

Just stop it. All those kids would be back in the three comprehensive high schools if HB was still on Vacation Lane (where they wanted to stay) and that building was a neighborhood middle school, as originally proposed when they decided not to sell the land. And building it taller to hold more kids would have been cost-prohibitive. There are no fields.

If you have somewhere to put 900 middle and high schoolers, by all means, let us know where to build that school.

WAH we had to give up one of the largest parcels of land APS owns for an architects blinged out brand new vanity project. We can’t possibly accept more students...

HB should have moved to office buildings; they play on home school sports, and can walk off campus anytime they want is an office setting would have been ideal.

Agree - put HB in office space.

The Heights building should have been an elementary school.

Kindergarten and first grade have to be on the ground floor. If Montessori were there, that means the 3/4/5 classes and the 1st/2nd/3rd classes would have to be on the ground floor.

Virginia requirements for elementary school playgrounds are two 100'x120' play equipment areas and a 100'x120' hard surface area plus a 180'x140' field.

No need for Montessori so you can unlink the 2/3 from the VPI/K/1.

Get an exception because it's an urban environment. It's not like NYC public schools have enormous outdoor play areas. Or even all of existing APS schools for that matter? ASFS certainly doesn't have a hard surface area now with those trailers. And doesn't have two large play equipment areas.

People have been complaining about the lack of outdoor space at ASFS for years -- its the primary reason they pushed through the boundary process this past fall. I think they were looking at a lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s time for a new high school. At least acquire the land already!

With what money? We should have taken VHC property on Carlin Springs, but AH won that right?

[Anonymous]

It seems that on April 26 there will be a "Committee of the Whole on the Career Center" so I imagine there might be some discussion of interest:

https://www.apsva.us/school-board-meetings/school-board-work-sessions-meetings/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s time for a new high school. At least acquire the land already!

With what money? We should have taken VHC property on Carlin Springs, but AH won that right?

Didn’t get the VHC property on Carlin Springs. Didn’t get the Rouse property near Seven Corners.
APS high school is f*cked.