I don’t understand parents taking unmasked children out

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Anonymous wrote:I was doing a curbside pickup at Target and out walks a mom with two kids unmasked. Why?

Maybe she needed something (like food items you can't order for curbside) and had nobody else to take care of her kids? I mean, I am lucky my husband and I can divide and conquer so our kids don't go into stores, but i can EASILY think of reasons someone might take them in. Did you try?

Are you really that dence? You’re missing the point. She can mask up her kids!

Are you really that dense that you think masking makes kids safe?

“The evidence regarding the effectiveness of medical face masks for the prevention of COVID-19 in the community is compatible with a small to moderate protective effect, but there are still significant uncertainties about the size of this effect. Evidence for the effectiveness of non-medical face masks, face shields/visors and respirators in the community is scarce and of very low certainty.”

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmission

And the next paragraph, right there
“ Although the evidence for the use of medical face masks in the community to prevent COVID-19 is limited, face masks should be considered as a non-pharmaceutical intervention in combination with other measures as part of efforts to control the COVID-19 pandemic.”

Limited evidence means there are few studies on the topic, not that masks don't work.

If you cherry-pick anything, you'll get the evidence you want.

Shame on you.

I appreciate this post SO much. When will people stop thinking masks are these magical covid barriers??

I do. not. know. But I will call them out.

Limited evidence means there are few studies on the topic, not that masks don't work.

If you cherry-pick anything, you'll get the evidence you want.

Shame on you.

Have mask mandates led to a drop in cases? Have states with mask mandates had better outcomes? Why do you think a non medical mask keeps you safe?

Yes. Yes.

Because yes.

So you just know and you have no data.

I know and I don’t want to do any work for you. Are you banned on Google.scholar or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am tempted to take my unmasked toddler & my masked 4 year old to shop and go to anywhere because I feel they have missed so much things for a full year. My unmasked toddler is curious but scared of outside world and people. My masked 4 year old misses the pre-covid fun kid & family activities, but at least he gets to hang out with other kids at daycare. We are sending the toddler to daycare this summer. Life needs to move on, and i have seen so many kids in the supermarket masked and I am tempted to take my masked 4 year old out there as well.

Take the masked 4 year old. Leave the unmasked toddler at home —with your partner or a sitter obviously.

[Anonymous]

OP, clearly you’re lacking basic u see stand of how the virus infects children. Some of you are so ignorant it begs the question of our future children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was doing a curbside pickup at Target and out walks a mom with two kids unmasked. Why?

Maybe she needed something (like food items you can't order for curbside) and had nobody else to take care of her kids? I mean, I am lucky my husband and I can divide and conquer so our kids don't go into stores, but i can EASILY think of reasons someone might take them in. Did you try?

Are you really that dence? You’re missing the point. She can mask up her kids!

Are you really that dense that you think masking makes kids safe?

“The evidence regarding the effectiveness of medical face masks for the prevention of COVID-19 in the community is compatible with a small to moderate protective effect, but there are still significant uncertainties about the size of this effect. Evidence for the effectiveness of non-medical face masks, face shields/visors and respirators in the community is scarce and of very low certainty.”

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmission

I appreciate this post SO much. When will people stop thinking masks are these magical covid barriers??

From the same article:

“The use of face masks in the community should complement and not replace other preventive measures such as physical distancing, staying home when ill, teleworking if possible, respiratory etiquette, meticulous hand hygiene and avoiding touching the face, nose, eyes and mouth.

The appropriate use of face masks and promoting compliance with their use when recommended as public health measures are key to the effectiveness of the measure and can be improved through education campaigns“

Yes, and?

And you misrepresented the point of the ecdc article.

They admit that masks work and recommend people masking up in addition to following other guidelines.

No, they don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I was doing a curbside pickup at Target and out walks a mom with two kids unmasked. Why?

Maybe she needed something (like food items you can't order for curbside) and had nobody else to take care of her kids? I mean, I am lucky my husband and I can divide and conquer so our kids don't go into stores, but i can EASILY think of reasons someone might take them in. Did you try?

Are you really that dence? You’re missing the point. She can mask up her kids!

Are you really that dense that you think masking makes kids safe?

“The evidence regarding the effectiveness of medical face masks for the prevention of COVID-19 in the community is compatible with a small to moderate protective effect, but there are still significant uncertainties about the size of this effect. Evidence for the effectiveness of non-medical face masks, face shields/visors and respirators in the community is scarce and of very low certainty.”

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmission

And the next paragraph, right there
“ Although the evidence for the use of medical face masks in the community to prevent COVID-19 is limited, face masks should be considered as a non-pharmaceutical intervention in combination with other measures as part of efforts to control the COVID-19 pandemic.”

Limited evidence means there are few studies on the topic, not that masks don't work.

If you cherry-pick anything, you'll get the evidence you want.

Shame on you.

I appreciate this post SO much. When will people stop thinking masks are these magical covid barriers??

I do. not. know. But I will call them out.

Limited evidence means there are few studies on the topic, not that masks don't work.

If you cherry-pick anything, you'll get the evidence you want.

Shame on you.

Have mask mandates led to a drop in cases? Have states with mask mandates had better outcomes? Why do you think a non medical mask keeps you safe?

Yes. Yes.

Because yes.

So you just know and you have no data.

I know and I don’t want to do any work for you. Are you banned on Google.scholar or something?

You aren’t familiar with the data.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am tempted to take my unmasked toddler & my masked 4 year old to shop and go to anywhere because I feel they have missed so much things for a full year. My unmasked toddler is curious but scared of outside world and people. My masked 4 year old misses the pre-covid fun kid & family activities, but at least he gets to hang out with other kids at daycare. We are sending the toddler to daycare this summer. Life needs to move on, and i have seen so many kids in the supermarket masked and I am tempted to take my masked 4 year old out there as well.

Take the masked 4 year old. Leave the unmasked toddler at home —with your partner or a sitter obviously.

This is sarcasm right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was doing a curbside pickup at Target and out walks a mom with two kids unmasked. Why?

Maybe she needed something (like food items you can't order for curbside) and had nobody else to take care of her kids? I mean, I am lucky my husband and I can divide and conquer so our kids don't go into stores, but i can EASILY think of reasons someone might take them in. Did you try?

Are you really that dence? You’re missing the point. She can mask up her kids!

Are you really that dense that you think masking makes kids safe?

“The evidence regarding the effectiveness of medical face masks for the prevention of COVID-19 in the community is compatible with a small to moderate protective effect, but there are still significant uncertainties about the size of this effect. Evidence for the effectiveness of non-medical face masks, face shields/visors, and respirators in the community is scarce and of very low certainty.”

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmission

And the next paragraph, right there
“ Although the evidence for the use of medical face masks in the community to prevent COVID-19 is limited, face masks should be considered as a non-pharmaceutical intervention in combination with other measures as part of efforts to control the COVID-19 pandemic.”

Limited evidence means there are few studies on the topic, not that masks don't work.

If you cherry-pick anything, you'll get the evidence you want.

Shame on you.

I appreciate this post SO much. When will people stop thinking masks are these magical covid barriers??

I do. not. know. But I will call them out.

Limited evidence means there are few studies on the topic, not that masks don't work.

If you cherry-pick anything, you'll get the evidence you want.

Shame on you.

Have mask mandates led to a drop in cases? Have states with mask mandates had better outcomes? Why do you think a non medical mask keeps you safe?

Yes. Yes.

Because yes.

So you just know and you have no data.

I know and I don’t want to do any work for you. Are you banned on Google.scholar or something?

You aren’t familiar with the data.

🙄 I guess Google did ban you, and for a reason, I must say.

Here’s the first link there:

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/state-covid-mask-wearing-mandates-work-cdc

Here’s the study they cite in the first link:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm

I mean, a simple Google search yields reputable sources with the answers to your questions. Yet, you ask strangers on the internet to search for you.
Have you been familiar with “the data” you’d provide it already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was doing a curbside pickup at Target and out walks a mom with two kids unmasked. Why?

Maybe she needed something (like food items you can't order for curbside) and had nobody else to take care of her kids? I mean, I am lucky my husband and I can divide and conquer so our kids don't go into stores, but i can EASILY think of reasons someone might take them in. Did you try?

Are you really that dence? You’re missing the point. She can mask up her kids!

Are you really that dense that you think masking makes kids safe?

“The evidence regarding the effectiveness of medical face masks for the prevention of COVID-19 in the community is compatible with a small to moderate protective effect, but there are still significant uncertainties about the size of this effect. Evidence for the effectiveness of non-medical face masks, face shields/visors, and respirators in the community is scarce and of very low certainty.”

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmission

And the next paragraph, right there
“ Although the evidence for the use of medical face masks in the community to prevent COVID-19 is limited, face masks should be considered as a non-pharmaceutical intervention in combination with other measures as part of efforts to control the COVID-19 pandemic.”

Limited evidence means there are few studies on the topic, not that masks don't work.

If you cherry-pick anything, you'll get the evidence you want.

Shame on you.

I appreciate this post SO much. When will people stop thinking masks are these magical covid barriers??

I do. not. know. But I will call them out.

Limited evidence means there are few studies on the topic, not that masks don't work.

If you cherry-pick anything, you'll get the evidence you want.

Shame on you.

Have mask mandates led to a drop in cases? Have states with mask mandates had better outcomes? Why do you think a non medical mask keeps you safe?

Yes. Yes.

Because yes.

So you just know and you have no data.

I know and I don’t want to do any work for you. Are you banned on Google.scholar or something?

You aren’t familiar with the data.

🙄 I guess Google did ban you, and for a reason, I must say.

Here’s the first link there:

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/state-covid-mask-wearing-mandates-work-cdc

Here’s the study they cite in the first link:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm

I mean, a simple Google search yields reputable sources with the answers to your questions. Yet, you ask strangers on the internet to search for you.
Have you been familiar with “the data” you’d provide it already.

Too many NPI’s occurring at once. Best case, masks have a small positive effect, so worth doing. That said, masking doesn’t make unsafe behavior suddenly safe. If a one year old doesn’t belong in a store without a mask, he doesn’t belong in a store with a mask either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:op sucks.

I suck because I cringe at seeing young kids without masks being exposed to a lot of people?

I am not talking necessities. We are currently on vacation. We drove and I see people out with young kids.

I also see kids in Fairfax and Arlington at the grocery store and target gnawing on shopping carts and high touch rails. It just makes me cringe. It would probably make me cringe even if we weren’t in the middle of a pandemic.

Lol you’re on vacation? Yeah you totally suck- you are part of the problem!

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

Thanks for accelerating the spread and helping create new variants.

You are ridiculous! We don’t get sick from going to the super market or to the playground! You need professional help

So not true. The last time I took my kids to playground, where everyone was masked, he came home with a head cold that we all got. We tested and it was not COVID. This was the only place we had been with other people for a few weeks. Things absolutely spread at the playground.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

Thanks for accelerating the spread and helping create new variants.

You are ridiculous! We don’t get sick from going to the super market or to the playground! You need professional help

So not true. The last time I took my kids to playground, where everyone was masked, he came home with a head cold that we all got. We tested and it was not COVID. This was the only place we had been with other people for a few weeks. Things absolutely spread at the playground.

Covid doesn’t spread at playgrounds. Norovirus is still spreading at a normal rate despite masks. Kids who go to school, daycare, etc. are still getting colds. Wearing a mask does not make it unlikely for you to get sick.