I don’t understand parents taking unmasked children out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was doing a curbside pickup at Target and out walks a mom with two kids unmasked. Why?

Maybe she needed something (like food items you can't order for curbside) and had nobody else to take care of her kids? I mean, I am lucky my husband and I can divide and conquer so our kids don't go into stores, but i can EASILY think of reasons someone might take them in. Did you try?

Are you really that dence? You’re missing the point. She can mask up her kids!

OP mentioned "very young kids," young enough to touch and gnaw on things. You're not supposed to put masks on kids under 2, and sometimes hard to get perfect use on a 2 year old. So no, I don't think that's the point

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I could absolutely believe OP is real, and not a troll.

With people double masking... OUTSIDE, there are clearly a lot of people who have simply lost their grip on reality. They are beyond detached at this point.

When Covid is mostly gone in the next few months and the rest of us are pretty much back to normal, what will all these scared people do?

Based on a recent survey I saw, Americans believe that if you catch covid, you have a 17% chance of death (in reality, it’s less than 0.5% across all demographic groups, and much lower for younger people). Which would mean 17 million dead among the 100 million or so Americans who have already had it. The media and government have done a disturbingly good job at panicking Americans.

In attempting to demonstrate American innumeracy, you have betrayed your own.

Americans are indeed incorrect that 17% of people who contract it will die.

You are insinuating that a ~1% death rate is not something to "panic" about.

In fact, a 1% death rate is extremely high! If I told you there was a 1% chance an anvil would drop on you every time you left your house, you would never leave. Or you'd die in an average of 3+ months.

Similarly, it's good that people do not want to contract an illness with a 1% death rate. Or even half that or less for healthy adults (especially since they can spread it to more vulnerable people). It "feels" like 17% to many Americans because it feels pretty dire, which it is. The half a million deaths we have experienced are excess deaths. And that's with a ton of mitigation efforts (albeit not enough).

And then again... I don't believe every single one of these numbers is 100% accurate, but the overall concept is true. Only ~1% is VERY much not the whole story of this illness.

If you look at number this way, then you should also take into consideration the average age/ health condition of people that die or have permanent issues. I love my grandparents a lot, but they are nit going to live much longer (Covid or nit) so killing them is the same as killing a 20 year old. The numbers you write are wrong because for society all people are nit the same. Some contribute, some take, some are at the end, some are at the beginning...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

Thanks for accelerating the spread and helping create new variants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean very young kids exposed in large crowds. I understand it is unsafe for young children to wear a mask. I would not want my small baby or toddler exposed. I have seen so many young children touching and gnawing on high touch surfaces and parents seem not to care.

I just would want to keep my little ones safe.

Why expose them unnecessarily?

Just to piss you off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe OP you have a preexisting condition or maybe your kids do. If not, you are crazy.

Covid is no more than a flu in young children (one of my kids had it and it was a 24 diarrhea event... he has had much worse)... so pls.... stop judging normal people.

Also, kids masks (made of cotton and not well fitted) are not a great protection (though they may help protect others)

It’s not about just the kids getting sick! These unmasked kids can still transmit the disease. The world is bigger than just you and your kid. We are all interconnected.

Sorry but I’m not keeping my 1.5 year old cloistered away at home indefinitely to assuage your anxiety. Sounds like it’s curbside pickup for you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

Thanks for accelerating the spread and helping create new variants.

You are ridiculous! We don’t get sick from going to the super market or to the playground! You need professional help

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

Thanks for accelerating the spread and helping create new variants.

You are ridiculous! We don’t get sick from going to the super market or to the playground! You need professional help

Well that may be true on the playground, it is absolutely unsure about the supermarket. It’s a very common place where folks are getting the virus. Please do some research on Covid contact tracing/sources of infection.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand parents being so panicked over their young otherwise healthy kids catching COVID compared to other diseases/activities which statistically pose a greater risk to children of that age but to each their own.

Some of us don’t want more dangerous variants to develop and take hold, which they will if the only unvaccinated population is kids. That’s the way viruses work. We’re very close to being able to get a handle on things and really cut down on new strains circulating. Taking your unmasked kids out makes the situation worse for everyone.

By dangerous you mean more transmissible, right?
More deadly it means likely less transmissible also.
I have read that is much more likely that Covid will become just another cold ( very transmissible and not deadly). When his host dies, the virus die. That is also why some of the more deadly viruses did not spread

Not true. It could be more transmissible and cause more long term issues, without being fatal. Long haul COVID is something you definitely don’t want for your kids. In Israel, where a lot of children have gotten it due to the school situation — doctors there are saying 10-30% have long term health issues due to the virus.

Anyway, this whole thread is a demonstration of how so many people don’t understand how their own selfish interests intersect with caring about the interests of all. So many people here saying oh, kids aren’t seriously affected, my kid won’t get it from the supermarket, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

Thanks for accelerating the spread and helping create new variants.

You are ridiculous! We don’t get sick from going to the super market or to the playground! You need professional help

Well that may be true on the playground, it is absolutely unsure about the supermarket. It’s a very common place where folks are getting the virus. Please do some research on Covid contact tracing/sources of infection.

+1 I know many people who got it from the supermarket. Specifically, the new variants transmit within minutes even if people are masked (with regular masks) and distanced. That’s what contact tracing in Canada showed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

Thanks for accelerating the spread and helping create new variants.

You are ridiculous! We don’t get sick from going to the super market or to the playground! You need professional help

Well that may be true on the playground, it is absolutely unsure about the supermarket. It’s a very common place where folks are getting the virus. Please do some research on Covid contact tracing/sources of infection.

+1 I know many people who got it from the supermarket. Specifically, the new variants transmit within minutes even if people are masked (with regular masks) and distanced. That’s what contact tracing in Canada showed.

I have a friend who didn’t go anywhere except the grocery store and contracted Covid. She thinks she got it from the grocery store.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder the same thing, OP. We see entire families at Target with both parents, 3-4 kids in tow and the youngest 1-2 are unmasked. These are the same parents who probably buy massive amounts of Tylenol for back to school because a fever shouldn’t stand in the way of sitting in a classroom.

We take our kids everywhere. Youngest (22 months) unmasked. And? Older two go to school. Nobody in our house even had a cold this year. My kids get tested twice a month (per school policy). We are traveling to Europe this summer, etc. Husband and I are vaccinated... still judging? Please go ahead!

Thanks for accelerating the spread and helping create new variants.

You are ridiculous! We don’t get sick from going to the super market or to the playground! You need professional help

Well that may be true on the playground, it is absolutely unsure about the supermarket. It’s a very common place where folks are getting the virus. Please do some research on Covid contact tracing/sources of infection.

+1 I know many people who got it from the supermarket. Specifically, the new variants transmit within minutes even if people are masked (with regular masks) and distanced. That’s what contact tracing in Canada showed.

Contact tracing shows correlation not causation. It makes sense that one of the places covid positive people note they’ve been to in the last 10 days is a grocery store. Because, uh, most people go to a grocery store at least once in 10 days. If “many people” were getting it at the supermarket or this was common, we’d have a lot more than 500k people dead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was doing a curbside pickup at Target and out walks a mom with two kids unmasked. Why?

Because kid transmission is SO low. Because kids aren’t catching this. Because I want to hear my kids when they talk. And we’re done.

If you can’t hear your kids talk through a mask, either you need a hearing assessment or your kids need an SLP assessment STAT.

What a lame, pathetic excuse.

And we’re done. LOL.

[Anonymous]

OP is right. Florida Boynton Beach no masks ,Fort Lauderdale,

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was doing a curbside pickup at Target and out walks a mom with two kids unmasked. Why?

Because kid transmission is SO low. Because kids aren’t catching this. Because I want to hear my kids when they talk. And we’re done.

If you can’t hear your kids talk through a mask, either you need a hearing assessment or your kids need an SLP assessment STAT.

What a lame, pathetic excuse.

And we’re done. LOL.

This is pretty rude. You have no idea if the PP is hearing impaired. You kinda suck.