Ppp here (not the Jesus is Lord and Savior post) Rite? No. But as I’ve indicated we do invite a rabbi to our parish and perform the Seder with respect, understanding how important it is to Jewish people. We have much to gain by emphasizing shared heritage and similarity of beliefs than to simply ignore where our Catholic faith originated from. We do not seek to appropriate but rather deepen our relationship with God through celebrating this heritage. Would you rather Catholics remain antisemites and ignorant of God’s history with humanity? I would hope not. Anything that brings us closer together these days should be celebrated not reviled. |
Huh? I was responding to the PP saying s/he had lamb for her Christian Passover Seder. What do I care what Catholics eat at Easter? |
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The whole notion of Christians celebrating Passover because “Jesus was a Jew and we feel a kinship with Jewish people” almost makes it feel like you’re trying to erase Judaism as a separate religion.
To answer a PP’s question: Jews don’t celebrate Christmas because we don’t accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior. Yes, Jesus was a Jew, but he threw off Judaism to start a new religion. This whole thing is just so weird. |
If you don’t have a Rabbi come to do Passover with you, then you’ll be anti-Semitic? I’m so confused. |
You are a guest at the rabbi's seder is the better way for you to see it. "My church observes Passover" is an offensive way to say it (and not aligned with Jewish or Catholic theology, at all.) |
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Colossians 2 explains why, OP:
For I want you to know how great a struggle I have for you and for those at Laodicea and for all who have not seen me face to face, 2 that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God's mystery, which is Christ, 3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4 I say this in order that no one may delude you with plausible arguments. 5 For though I am absent in body, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the firmness of your faith in Christ. Alive in Christ 6 Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, 7 rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. 8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits[a] of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, 10 and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. 11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities[b] and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.[c] Let No One Disqualify You 16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. 18 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions,[d] puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, 19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God. 20 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— 21 “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” 22 (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? 23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh. |
Of course "The Old Testament" is part of Christianity! The Tanakh is the Jewish scripture.
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Yes, but obviously there’s overlap between the two. |
Do you honestly not understand that Jesus established a break with Judaism? yes, the "Old Testament" is part of Christianity, but the specific rites and observations required in the Old Testament (which still are considered the law to Judaism) do not apply to Christians. That was ... kind of the whole point of Christianity? |
There's plenty about Judaism and literally every religious tradition that others find "so weird," so there's that. |
Yeah, this thread is so weird. It’s like people don’t realize Judaism is a different religion? |
That’s really not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about Christians basically engaging in Jewish cosplay. |
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Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?
You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter. Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit. |
Annnnnndddddd no one is doing that at the SIMPLE Bible reading followed by a soup-kitchen supper at my church, which is how we gather on Passover. Keep trying to make it something that it's not. Keep lying. But that's not what it is at ny church. No one is doing anything other than reading relevant readings from the Bible, offering a simple prayer before a meal, and sharing a simple meal of soup and bread with the community, including those in need of a hot meal. If you think that's "coaplaying," then that's what toy want to see. So I can't help you. Peace be with you. If you need to tell lies, know that I won't be hearing you. |
Why does Passover matter to you though? Jesus has nothing to do with our celebration of Passover. What bible reading are you even doing? A lot of Jews don’t even read from the Torah on Passover. Some do, but many just celebrate at home with a Haggadah. |