Why don't Christians observe Passover and other biblical holidays?

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Anonymous wrote:Catholics and Lutherans absolutely do observe Passover.

Catholics observe Easter, not Passover.

You are incorrect. You are being very literal and hung up on the word "observe." The word "observe" in the sense of "aware of/marking/do-stuff-for-and-on/celebrate/acknowledge/take the opportunity to read and reflect" is what I mean.

I’m Jewish. Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Easter has everything to do with Jesus.

How can you possibly say they’re the same thing?!

I...never said literally anything about Jesus on Passover!!!!

Christians “mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for” Passover. That might be as simple as relevant readings followed by a simple church supper. To say “they don’t observe it” is false,

They also observe and celebrate Easter (of course).

Look, your “seder” with mint jelly is not “observing passover.” It’s an attempt, probably driven by good-hearted intentions, to be ecumenical. probably rooted in the liberation theology more predominant in the 80s Catholic Church. Also part of the growinf awareness of Catholic anti-semitism and movement to deal with that part of Church history.

I don't know how many times I can say this, but I'll try to go slower, one more time, just for you.

*I never said that Christians capital-O OBSERVE Passover the way that Jewish communities do. I further clarified to say "mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for" Passover.

Just like, you're not Black, right? But maybe you OBSERVE ("mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for" Martin Luther King Day, with community service or volunteering or using the day off of work to read and reflect about Dr. King's writing and message and calls to action, yeah?

Does that mean you are Black? No. Does that mean you are claiming the Black experience? No. But it does mean that you respect MLK and the history and significance surrounding the day.

Whether you like it or approve of it or not, many Christians do feel a connection to the Hebrew Bible, to the Jewish roots of Jesus Christ, and to what we feel is a shared history pre-Jesus.

And by the way? I'M NOT THE MINT JELLY POSTER.

Observe means to celebrate. In this instance the meaning is perform or take part in (a rite or ceremony)

You do not observe Passover.

You know it exists, you acknowledge that is it something others celebrate, but you don't observe it.

You misunderstood the meaning of observe, that is fine, but stop being so obtuse. (I'm not PP)

NP. I’m Catholic and enjoy celebrating Passover with my parish. You may say that I don’t observe it, but I do, maybe not like you do, but the essential elements are probably similar. Observing it deepens our relationship with God and further adds to the history of salvation that culminates with the resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday. Celebrating Passover also deepens my appreciation for our shared religious heritage with the Jewish people and their eternal covenant with God as promulgated in Nostra aetate.

How can you observe being freed from Egyptian slavery if you are not a Jew? Genuinely asking.

NP. Because my Lord and savior, the most important person in my life and in my heart, was a Jew.

Do you get that white people and Asian people and Indian people can celebrate Emancipation Day?

did you miss the entire part where Jesus established a new covenant? Do you also keep kosher and require circumcision? you “celebrate” Passover as a specific ecumenical thing that started when the Catholic Church was grappling with its history of anti-semitism. That’s competely different theologically from “observing” passover at your church. For a member of a faith that places so much emphasis on specific sacraments performed under specific conditions to be valid, it’s pretty d-mn offensive for you to claim you “observe passover” as if it’s some kind of joint Catholic-Jewish rite.

Ppp here (not the Jesus is Lord and Savior post) Rite? No. But as I’ve indicated we do invite a rabbi to our parish and perform the Seder with respect, understanding how important it is to Jewish people. We have much to gain by emphasizing shared heritage and similarity of beliefs than to simply ignore where our Catholic faith originated from. We do not seek to appropriate but rather deepen our relationship with God through celebrating this heritage. Would you rather Catholics remain antisemites and ignorant of God’s history with humanity? I would hope not. Anything that brings us closer together these days should be celebrated not reviled.

You are a guest at the rabbi's seder is the better way for you to see it. "My church observes Passover" is an offensive way to say it (and not aligned with Jewish or Catholic theology, at all.)

Okay. We can be guests at the rabbis Seder at our parish hall. That’s excellent! Also, I’m sorry you misinterpreted the subject of this thread to find offense.

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Can we talk about the other holidays OP is confused about too?

Shavuot — why would Christians celebrate a holiday that’s about God giving the Jews the Torah?

Sukkot — it’s basically a harvest festival so I guess if you want to build a sukkah, knock yourself out?

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

How about we celebrate what we want, and you celebrate what you want, and maybe sometimes we can find ways to celebrate together?

I’m so glad that is how it is with the many Jewish friends, colleagues and community members that I have connected with over the years.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

How about we celebrate what we want, and you celebrate what you want, and maybe sometimes we can find ways to celebrate together?

I’m so glad that is how it is with the many Jewish friends, colleagues and community members that I have connected with over the years.

I mean, celebrating with Jews is different than literally appropriating our religion.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

How about we celebrate what we want, and you celebrate what you want, and maybe sometimes we can find ways to celebrate together?

I’m so glad that is how it is with the many Jewish friends, colleagues and community members that I have connected with over the years.

I mean, celebrating with Jews is different than literally appropriating our religion.

Show me how a Bible reading followed by a soup kitchen meal is appropriation. I’ll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

How about we celebrate what we want, and you celebrate what you want, and maybe sometimes we can find ways to celebrate together?

I’m so glad that is how it is with the many Jewish friends, colleagues and community members that I have connected with over the years.

I mean, celebrating with Jews is different than literally appropriating our religion.

Show me how a Bible reading followed by a soup kitchen meal is appropriation. I’ll wait.

So you celebrate the liberation of Jews from slavery in Egypt with a Bible reading and a soup kitchen visit? Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

How about we celebrate what we want, and you celebrate what you want, and maybe sometimes we can find ways to celebrate together?

I’m so glad that is how it is with the many Jewish friends, colleagues and community members that I have connected with over the years.

I mean, celebrating with Jews is different than literally appropriating our religion.

Show me how a Bible reading followed by a soup kitchen meal is appropriation. I’ll wait.

So you celebrate the liberation of Jews from slavery in Egypt with a Bible reading and a soup kitchen visit? Why?

I’ve already linked to resources, including a joint Jewish and Catholic event in Massachusetts. Be well. You don’t want to understand; you want to argue.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

How about we celebrate what we want, and you celebrate what you want, and maybe sometimes we can find ways to celebrate together?

I’m so glad that is how it is with the many Jewish friends, colleagues and community members that I have connected with over the years.

I mean, celebrating with Jews is different than literally appropriating our religion.

Show me how a Bible reading followed by a soup kitchen meal is appropriation. I’ll wait.

So you celebrate the liberation of Jews from slavery in Egypt with a Bible reading and a soup kitchen visit? Why?

I’ve already linked to resources, including a joint Jewish and Catholic event in Massachusetts. Be well. You don’t want to understand; you want to argue.

A joint event with Jews isn’t the same thing as you all deciding you want to celebrate a Jewish holiday. How do you not get that?

Would you like it if Jews celebrated all the Christian holidays? There’s always people giving shit to Jews on this forum if they deign to celebrate Christmas.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we know why what we call Jewish holidays such as Passover, Shavuot, and Sukkot, all of which are connected the Old Testament, are not observed by Christians as well?

Why don't Jewish people celebrate the birth of Jesus? ( not really asking just pointing it out to op)

Not parallel at all.

Why not? Or Christmas?

Jews don't believe in Jesus. Jews don't believe in the New Testament- only the Old Testament. Christianity and Catholicism are anti-semitic religions. Why would a Jew want to celebrate something like that?

Ok why would a Christian want to celebrate Passover and othe Jewish holidays? Why would op ask such a stupid question?

Because the Old Testament is part of Christianity. The New Testament is not part of Judaism. You don't see the difference?

Ok so do Christian's follow all of the ritual requirements in the Old Testament?

Seriously. Saying “the Old Testament is part of Christianity” implies Judaism barely exists as a separate religion. It’s offensive.

Huh?!! The phrase "The Old Testament" is used by Christians to differentiate from "The New Testament." Neither are Jewish terms.

There seem to be posters on here who think they can just celebrate Passover because “Jesus was a Jew and the Old Testament is part of Christianity.”

That’s not a thing. Christians can’t just celebrate Passover. Clearly when they try, they do stupid things like eat mint jelly. It’s embarrassing and it’s appropriation.

Christians don’t need your permission. They can in fact “just celebrate Passover,” as it is one of the most critical parts of their religion, whether you recognize it or not. Keep your Seder, let the Christians keep their Passover Lamb. They’re different enough that you can consider them two different things.

Passover is one of the most critical parts of Christianity? The liberation of Jews from enslavement in Egypt? That’s a critical part of Christianity?

I think you and I have different definitions of what Passover is.

It’s clear that you’re ignorant about Christianity, and that’s ok, but isn’t it better to stop arguing about things that you don’t know anything about rather than continuing to dig in?

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Anonymous wrote:Do we know why what we call Jewish holidays such as Passover, Shavuot, and Sukkot, all of which are connected the Old Testament, are not observed by Christians as well?

Why don't Jewish people celebrate the birth of Jesus? ( not really asking just pointing it out to op)

Not parallel at all.

Why not? Or Christmas?

Jews don't believe in Jesus. Jews don't believe in the New Testament- only the Old Testament. Christianity and Catholicism are anti-semitic religions. Why would a Jew want to celebrate something like that?

Ok why would a Christian want to celebrate Passover and othe Jewish holidays? Why would op ask such a stupid question?

Because the Old Testament is part of Christianity. The New Testament is not part of Judaism. You don't see the difference?

Ok so do Christian's follow all of the ritual requirements in the Old Testament?

Seriously. Saying “the Old Testament is part of Christianity” implies Judaism barely exists as a separate religion. It’s offensive.

Huh?!! The phrase "The Old Testament" is used by Christians to differentiate from "The New Testament." Neither are Jewish terms.

There seem to be posters on here who think they can just celebrate Passover because “Jesus was a Jew and the Old Testament is part of Christianity.”

That’s not a thing. Christians can’t just celebrate Passover. Clearly when they try, they do stupid things like eat mint jelly. It’s embarrassing and it’s appropriation.

Christians don’t need your permission. They can in fact “just celebrate Passover,” as it is one of the most critical parts of their religion, whether you recognize it or not. Keep your Seder, let the Christians keep their Passover Lamb. They’re different enough that you can consider them two different things.

Passover is one of the most critical parts of Christianity? The liberation of Jews from enslavement in Egypt? That’s a critical part of Christianity?

I think you and I have different definitions of what Passover is.

It’s clear that you’re ignorant about Christianity, and that’s ok, but isn’t it better to stop arguing about things that you don’t know anything about rather than continuing to dig in?

So let me get this straight — you all can celebrate any Jewish holidays you want? Or is it just Passover? Want to make sure I understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

How about we celebrate what we want, and you celebrate what you want, and maybe sometimes we can find ways to celebrate together?

I’m so glad that is how it is with the many Jewish friends, colleagues and community members that I have connected with over the years.

I mean, celebrating with Jews is different than literally appropriating our religion.

Show me how a Bible reading followed by a soup kitchen meal is appropriation. I’ll wait.

How is a bible reading followed by a “soup kitchen meal” passover??

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Care to answer for this? Is this article wrong?

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/holidays/why-dont-christians-celebrate-passover-if-jesus-did.html

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just call it Easter, rather than Passover, so we can end this thread?

You’re not celebrating Passover; you’re celebrating Easter.

Our Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even a tiny bit.

Not everything to do with Christianity has to do with Jesus.

Christians believe in and look to the wisdom of Moses, Elijah, Noah, Jacob, David, Solomon. You are really uneducated about Christianity if you do not know that.

So you all want to celebrate Shavuot, which is about the Torah?

You realize your religion is different than Judaism right?

How about we celebrate what we want, and you celebrate what you want, and maybe sometimes we can find ways to celebrate together?

I’m so glad that is how it is with the many Jewish friends, colleagues and community members that I have connected with over the years.

I mean, celebrating with Jews is different than literally appropriating our religion.

Show me how a Bible reading followed by a soup kitchen meal is appropriation. I’ll wait.

How is a bible reading followed by a “soup kitchen meal” passover??

They think they can just do whatever they want and call it the same thing as our treasured traditions. It’s really offensive.