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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Catholics and Lutherans absolutely do observe Passover. [/quote]

Catholics observe Easter, not Passover.[/quote]

You are incorrect. You are being very literal and hung up on the word "observe." The word "observe" in the sense of "aware of/marking/do-stuff-for-and-on/celebrate/acknowledge/take the opportunity to read and reflect" is what I mean.[/quote]

I’m Jewish. Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Easter has everything to do with Jesus.

How can you possibly say they’re the same thing?! [/quote]

I...never said literally anything about Jesus on Passover!!!!

Christians “mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for” Passover. That might be as simple as relevant readings followed by a simple church supper. To say “they don’t observe it” is false,

They also observe and celebrate Easter (of course). [/quote]

Look, your “seder” with mint jelly is not “observing passover.” It’s an attempt, probably driven by good-hearted intentions, to be ecumenical. probably rooted in the liberation theology more predominant in the 80s Catholic Church. Also part of the growinf awareness of Catholic anti-semitism and movement to deal with that part of Church history.

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I don't know how many times I can say this, but I'll try to go slower, one more time, just for you.

*I never said that Christians capital-O OBSERVE Passover the way that Jewish communities do. I further clarified to say "mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for" Passover.

Just like, you're not Black, right? But maybe you OBSERVE ("mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for" Martin Luther King Day, with community service or volunteering or using the day off of work to read and reflect about Dr. King's writing and message and calls to action, yeah?

Does that mean you are Black? No. Does that mean you are claiming the Black experience? No. But it does mean that you respect MLK and the history and significance surrounding the day.

Whether you like it or approve of it or not, many Christians do feel a connection to the Hebrew Bible, to the Jewish roots of Jesus Christ, and to what we feel is a shared history pre-Jesus. [/quote]

And by the way? I'M NOT THE MINT JELLY POSTER. [/quote]

Observe means to celebrate. In this instance the meaning is perform or take part in (a rite or ceremony)

You do not observe Passover.

You know it exists, you acknowledge that is it something others celebrate, but you don't observe it.

You misunderstood the meaning of observe, that is fine, but stop being so obtuse. (I'm not PP)[/quote]
NP.  I’m Catholic and enjoy celebrating Passover with my parish.  You may say that I don’t observe it, but I do, maybe not like you do, but the essential elements are probably similar.  Observing it deepens our relationship with God and further adds to the history of salvation that culminates with the resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday.  Celebrating Passover also deepens my appreciation for our shared religious heritage with the Jewish people and their eternal covenant with God as promulgated in Nostra aetate.[/quote]

How can you observe being freed from Egyptian slavery if you are not a Jew? Genuinely asking. [/quote]

NP. Because my Lord and savior, the most important person in my life and in my heart, was a Jew.

Do you get that white people and Asian people and Indian people can celebrate Emancipation Day?[/quote]

did you miss the entire part where Jesus established a new covenant? Do you also keep kosher and require circumcision? you “celebrate” Passover as a specific ecumenical thing that started when the Catholic Church was grappling with its history of anti-semitism. That’s competely different theologically from “observing” passover at your church. For a member of a faith that places so much emphasis on specific sacraments performed under specific conditions to be valid, it’s pretty d-mn offensive for you to claim you “observe passover” as if it’s some kind of joint Catholic-Jewish rite. [/quote]
Ppp here (not the Jesus is Lord and Savior post) Rite? No.  But as I’ve indicated we do invite a rabbi to our parish and perform the Seder with respect, understanding how important it is to Jewish people.  We have much to gain by emphasizing shared heritage and similarity of beliefs than to simply ignore where our Catholic faith originated from.  We do not seek to appropriate but rather deepen our relationship with God through celebrating this heritage.  Would you rather Catholics remain antisemites and ignorant of God’s history with humanity?  I would hope not.  Anything that brings us closer together these days should be celebrated not reviled.[/quote]

You are a guest at the rabbi's seder is the better way for you to see it.  "My church observes Passover" is an offensive way to say it (and not aligned with Jewish or Catholic theology, at all.)[/quote]

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