Why don't Christians observe Passover and other biblical holidays?

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It’s complicated. Many Christians can and do observe Passover, but for the most part Passover got pulled into Holy Week observations.

Fun fact- the word Easter in Latin languages (Pâques, Pasqua, Pascua) evolved from the Greek work for Passover. Christians view Jesus as the ultimate Passover lamb. Holy Week and Easter evolved from and eclipsed previous Passover observations in importance in Christianity.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we know why what we call Jewish holidays such as Passover, Shavuot, and Sukkot, all of which are connected the Old Testament, are not observed by Christians as well?

Why don't Jewish people celebrate the birth of Jesus? ( not really asking just pointing it out to op)

Not parallel at all.

Why not? Or Christmas?

Because to Christians, the Bible is made up of both the Old and the New Testament. For Jews, the Bible does not include the New Testament.

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Anonymous wrote:For Passover this year, i am going o squeeze a glob of mint jelly on my Seder plate in observance of Christians who observe Passover.

Yeah idk what that person is talking about? Maybe their church had extra mint jelly that was going for the Easter lamb on Sunday?

Probably that's it.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew I my initial feeling was this Christian Seder thing was a little off putting, kind of cultural appropriation. But the more I think about it maybe it is a good idea and it will make Christians less antisemitic and more sympathetic to Jews.

I don't believe in cultural appropriation. If a Christian or a Muslim wants to celebrate my holidays, have at it! Cultural appropriation is a bunch of B.S.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew I my initial feeling was this Christian Seder thing was a little off putting, kind of cultural appropriation. But the more I think about it maybe it is a good idea and it will make Christians less antisemitic and more sympathetic to Jews.

I don't believe in cultural appropriation. If a Christian or a Muslim wants to celebrate my holidays, have at it! Cultural appropriation is a bunch of B.S.

Are you Jewish? Cause most Jews find it this kind of stuff a little unsettling. It’s like using Judaism to validate Christianity. Not to mention Christians have actively persecuted Jews for practicing their faith not so long ago.

I am the Jewish poster from before who said she was trying to keep an open mind. It just feels sketchy when the Catholic PP go on about Passover being “their” holiday because Jesus was a Jew.

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A show called The Naked Archaeologist (available on Amazon Prime) goes through and explains many things about the bible in a historical context. It's done in a lighthearted manner and is very interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew I my initial feeling was this Christian Seder thing was a little off putting, kind of cultural appropriation. But the more I think about it maybe it is a good idea and it will make Christians less antisemitic and more sympathetic to Jews.

I don't believe in cultural appropriation. If a Christian or a Muslim wants to celebrate my holidays, have at it! Cultural appropriation is a bunch of B.S.

Are you Jewish? Cause most Jews find it this kind of stuff a little unsettling. It’s like using Judaism to validate Christianity. Not to mention Christians have actively persecuted Jews for practicing their faith not so long ago.

I am the Jewish poster from before who said she was trying to keep an open mind. It just feels sketchy when the Catholic PP go on about Passover being “their” holiday because Jesus was a Jew.

They never said it was “their” holiday.

I would like to know what is so wrong with some type of respectful marking of an important day with a few readings and a simple meal at a church?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Seder dinners in my Catholic Church growing up. Church was huge part of community, and there were always various types of dinners in the church hall, and a passover seder was one of them. It was interesting. I Liked the mint jelly. Maybe it only happened a few times, and maybe it was a learning/cultural exploration thing, but it definitely happened.

I’m sorry, what? — a Jew

lol. Its that not a thing? you eat mint jelly with lamb? I remember my mom telling me you ate mint jelly with lamb, and we never had lamb at home (literally never) so no mint jelly. I remember the matzoh wasn't half bad with some of the mint jelly spread on it.

We must have only done it once or twice whenI was longer as I don't have too many memories, but we did have the books and the prayer, and our priest would explain what each thing meantasa we went along and different people had speaking roles.

I grew up in a small southern town with a small percentage of Catholics. There was one Jewish family in town. I think my church did the best they could with what they had and good for them for trying a little cultural diversity and religious diversity?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Seder dinners in my Catholic Church growing up. Church was huge part of community, and there were always various types of dinners in the church hall, and a passover seder was one of them. It was interesting. I Liked the mint jelly. Maybe it only happened a few times, and maybe it was a learning/cultural exploration thing, but it definitely happened.

I’m sorry, what? — a Jew

lol. Its that not a thing? you eat mint jelly with lamb? I remember my mom telling me you ate mint jelly with lamb, and we never had lamb at home (literally never) so no mint jelly. I remember the matzoh wasn't half bad with some of the mint jelly spread on it.

We must have only done it once or twice whenI was longer as I don't have too many memories, but we did have the books and the prayer, and our priest would explain what each thing meantasa we went along and different people had speaking roles.

I grew up in a small southern town with a small percentage of Catholics. There was one Jewish family in town. I think my church did the best they could with what they had and good for them for trying a little cultural diversity and religious diversity?

Mint jelly at a Seder is sooo not Jewish. A very Christian thing like eating white bread, bologna and mayonnaise.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Seder dinners in my Catholic Church growing up. Church was huge part of community, and there were always various types of dinners in the church hall, and a passover seder was one of them. It was interesting. I Liked the mint jelly. Maybe it only happened a few times, and maybe it was a learning/cultural exploration thing, but it definitely happened.

I’m sorry, what? — a Jew

lol. Its that not a thing? you eat mint jelly with lamb? I remember my mom telling me you ate mint jelly with lamb, and we never had lamb at home (literally never) so no mint jelly. I remember the matzoh wasn't half bad with some of the mint jelly spread on it.

We must have only done it once or twice whenI was longer as I don't have too many memories, but we did have the books and the prayer, and our priest would explain what each thing meantasa we went along and different people had speaking roles.

I grew up in a small southern town with a small percentage of Catholics. There was one Jewish family in town. I think my church did the best they could with what they had and good for them for trying a little cultural diversity and religious diversity?

Uh, it's me with the mint jelly again. I replied before I realized it had become a thing. Sorry not trying to start anything here. The intent was definitely to be in solidarity with our brothers and sisters of the Old Testament. My church was pretty progressive, all things considered. The Catholic Church was the only church in small southern town where blacks and whites worshipped together.

We eat ham for Easter, btw. Lamb was definitely considered exotic in my southern town in the late 70s. In my memory, I literally did not like any of the food served - except that mint jelly.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Seder dinners in my Catholic Church growing up. Church was huge part of community, and there were always various types of dinners in the church hall, and a passover seder was one of them. It was interesting. I Liked the mint jelly. Maybe it only happened a few times, and maybe it was a learning/cultural exploration thing, but it definitely happened.

I’m sorry, what? — a Jew

lol. Its that not a thing? you eat mint jelly with lamb? I remember my mom telling me you ate mint jelly with lamb, and we never had lamb at home (literally never) so no mint jelly. I remember the matzoh wasn't half bad with some of the mint jelly spread on it.

We must have only done it once or twice whenI was longer as I don't have too many memories, but we did have the books and the prayer, and our priest would explain what each thing meantasa we went along and different people had speaking roles.

I grew up in a small southern town with a small percentage of Catholics. There was one Jewish family in town. I think my church did the best they could with what they had and good for them for trying a little cultural diversity and religious diversity?

Uh, it's me with the mint jelly again. I replied before I realized it had become a thing. Sorry not trying to start anything here. The intent was definitely to be in solidarity with our brothers and sisters of the Old Testament. My church was pretty progressive, all things considered. The Catholic Church was the only church in small southern town where blacks and whites worshipped together.

We eat ham for Easter, btw. Lamb was definitely considered exotic in my southern town in the late 70s. In my memory, I literally did not like any of the food served - except that mint jelly.

Solidarity appreciated!

But yeah, mint jelly is about as goyishe naches as it comes.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Seder dinners in my Catholic Church growing up. Church was huge part of community, and there were always various types of dinners in the church hall, and a passover seder was one of them. It was interesting. I Liked the mint jelly. Maybe it only happened a few times, and maybe it was a learning/cultural exploration thing, but it definitely happened.

I’m sorry, what? — a Jew

lol. Its that not a thing? you eat mint jelly with lamb? I remember my mom telling me you ate mint jelly with lamb, and we never had lamb at home (literally never) so no mint jelly. I remember the matzoh wasn't half bad with some of the mint jelly spread on it.

We must have only done it once or twice whenI was longer as I don't have too many memories, but we did have the books and the prayer, and our priest would explain what each thing meantasa we went along and different people had speaking roles.

I grew up in a small southern town with a small percentage of Catholics. There was one Jewish family in town. I think my church did the best they could with what they had and good for them for trying a little cultural diversity and religious diversity?

Eating lamb at Passover is a no-no at least for Ashkenazi Jews. (I believe it is common among Mizrahi Jews) That’s what the lamb shank bone is for to represent the sacrificial lamb.

Next time try brisket! Mark Bittman has an excellent recipe.

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Anonymous wrote:Catholics and Lutherans absolutely do observe Passover.

Catholics observe Easter, not Passover.

You are incorrect. You are being very literal and hung up on the word "observe." The word "observe" in the sense of "aware of/marking/do-stuff-for-and-on/celebrate/acknowledge/take the opportunity to read and reflect" is what I mean.

I’m Jewish. Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Easter has everything to do with Jesus.

How can you possibly say they’re the same thing?!

I...never said literally anything about Jesus on Passover!!!!

Christians “mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for” Passover. That might be as simple as relevant readings followed by a simple church supper. To say “they don’t observe it” is false,

They also observe and celebrate Easter (of course).

Look, your “seder” with mint jelly is not “observing passover.” It’s an attempt, probably driven by good-hearted intentions, to be ecumenical. probably rooted in the liberation theology more predominant in the 80s Catholic Church. Also part of the growinf awareness of Catholic anti-semitism and movement to deal with that part of Church history.

I don't know how many times I can say this, but I'll try to go slower, one more time, just for you.

*I never said that Christians capital-O OBSERVE Passover the way that Jewish communities do. I further clarified to say "mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for" Passover.

Just like, you're not Black, right? But maybe you OBSERVE ("mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for" Martin Luther King Day, with community service or volunteering or using the day off of work to read and reflect about Dr. King's writing and message and calls to action, yeah?

Does that mean you are Black? No. Does that mean you are claiming the Black experience? No. But it does mean that you respect MLK and the history and significance surrounding the day.

Whether you like it or approve of it or not, many Christians do feel a connection to the Hebrew Bible, to the Jewish roots of Jesus Christ, and to what we feel is a shared history pre-Jesus.

And by the way? I'M NOT THE MINT JELLY POSTER.

Observe means to celebrate. In this instance the meaning is perform or take part in (a rite or ceremony)

You do not observe Passover.

You know it exists, you acknowledge that is it something others celebrate, but you don't observe it.

You misunderstood the meaning of observe, that is fine, but stop being so obtuse. (I'm not PP)

NP. I’m Catholic and enjoy celebrating Passover with my parish. You may say that I don’t observe it, but I do, maybe not like you do, but the essential elements are probably similar. Observing it deepens our relationship with God and further adds to the history of salvation that culminates with the resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday. Celebrating Passover also deepens my appreciation for our shared religious heritage with the Jewish people and their eternal covenant with God as promulgated in Nostra aetate.

How can you observe being freed from Egyptian slavery if you are not a Jew? Genuinely asking.

NP. Because my Lord and savior, the most important person in my life and in my heart, was a Jew.

Do you get that white people and Asian people and Indian people can celebrate Emancipation Day?

Yes. I am white and I celebrate Juneteenth, but I don’t take part In a celebration where I act like I was an enslaved person in the US. I’m not cosplaying being black for the day.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Seder dinners in my Catholic Church growing up. Church was huge part of community, and there were always various types of dinners in the church hall, and a passover seder was one of them. It was interesting. I Liked the mint jelly. Maybe it only happened a few times, and maybe it was a learning/cultural exploration thing, but it definitely happened.

I’m sorry, what? — a Jew

lol. Its that not a thing? you eat mint jelly with lamb? I remember my mom telling me you ate mint jelly with lamb, and we never had lamb at home (literally never) so no mint jelly. I remember the matzoh wasn't half bad with some of the mint jelly spread on it.

We must have only done it once or twice whenI was longer as I don't have too many memories, but we did have the books and the prayer, and our priest would explain what each thing meantasa we went along and different people had speaking roles.

I grew up in a small southern town with a small percentage of Catholics. There was one Jewish family in town. I think my church did the best they could with what they had and good for them for trying a little cultural diversity and religious diversity?

Eating lamb at Passover is a no-no at least for Ashkenazi Jews. (I believe it is common among Mizrahi Jews) That’s what the lamb shank bone is for to represent the sacrificial lamb.

Next time try brisket! Mark Bittman has an excellent recipe.

Catholics have lamb and mint jelly on Easter because Jesus is the lamb of God.

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Anonymous wrote:Catholics and Lutherans absolutely do observe Passover.

Catholics observe Easter, not Passover.

You are incorrect. You are being very literal and hung up on the word "observe." The word "observe" in the sense of "aware of/marking/do-stuff-for-and-on/celebrate/acknowledge/take the opportunity to read and reflect" is what I mean.

I’m Jewish. Passover has nothing to do with Jesus. Easter has everything to do with Jesus.

How can you possibly say they’re the same thing?!

I...never said literally anything about Jesus on Passover!!!!

Christians “mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for” Passover. That might be as simple as relevant readings followed by a simple church supper. To say “they don’t observe it” is false,

They also observe and celebrate Easter (of course).

Look, your “seder” with mint jelly is not “observing passover.” It’s an attempt, probably driven by good-hearted intentions, to be ecumenical. probably rooted in the liberation theology more predominant in the 80s Catholic Church. Also part of the growinf awareness of Catholic anti-semitism and movement to deal with that part of Church history.

I don't know how many times I can say this, but I'll try to go slower, one more time, just for you.

*I never said that Christians capital-O OBSERVE Passover the way that Jewish communities do. I further clarified to say "mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for" Passover.

Just like, you're not Black, right? But maybe you OBSERVE ("mark/acknowledge/talk about/learn about/do-stuff-on-and-for" Martin Luther King Day, with community service or volunteering or using the day off of work to read and reflect about Dr. King's writing and message and calls to action, yeah?

Does that mean you are Black? No. Does that mean you are claiming the Black experience? No. But it does mean that you respect MLK and the history and significance surrounding the day.

Whether you like it or approve of it or not, many Christians do feel a connection to the Hebrew Bible, to the Jewish roots of Jesus Christ, and to what we feel is a shared history pre-Jesus.

And by the way? I'M NOT THE MINT JELLY POSTER.

Observe means to celebrate. In this instance the meaning is perform or take part in (a rite or ceremony)

You do not observe Passover.

You know it exists, you acknowledge that is it something others celebrate, but you don't observe it.

You misunderstood the meaning of observe, that is fine, but stop being so obtuse. (I'm not PP)

NP. I’m Catholic and enjoy celebrating Passover with my parish. You may say that I don’t observe it, but I do, maybe not like you do, but the essential elements are probably similar. Observing it deepens our relationship with God and further adds to the history of salvation that culminates with the resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday. Celebrating Passover also deepens my appreciation for our shared religious heritage with the Jewish people and their eternal covenant with God as promulgated in Nostra aetate.

How can you observe being freed from Egyptian slavery if you are not a Jew? Genuinely asking.

NP. Because my Lord and savior, the most important person in my life and in my heart, was a Jew.

Do you get that white people and Asian people and Indian people can celebrate Emancipation Day?

did you miss the entire part where Jesus established a new covenant? Do you also keep kosher and require circumcision? you “celebrate” Passover as a specific ecumenical thing that started when the Catholic Church was grappling with its history of anti-semitism. That’s competely different theologically from “observing” passover at your church. For a member of a faith that places so much emphasis on specific sacraments performed under specific conditions to be valid, it’s pretty d-mn offensive for you to claim you “observe passover” as if it’s some kind of joint Catholic-Jewish rite.