‘Slow Streets’ is stupid

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Love how DC has hundreds of miles of bike lanes that hardly anyone uses. The number of bicyclists in DC is pathetically small and yet we have all these lanes everywhere.

I hope you don't drive.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

You're very confused. People with huge yards play in their yards. Kids playing in the street has been a staple of city living always, precisely because people live in small houses and apartments.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

Who lets their kids play in the streets?

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

Well, yeah, that's because 25 years ago (1995) is well after drivers started insisting that roads were for cars and only for cars.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

Who lets their kids play in the streets?

It used to be really common before cars. It's declined because cars turn otherwise normal people into sociopaths who can't be expected not to run over children and it's a loss for our kids.

[Anonymous]

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Who lets their kids play in the streets?

People whose kids have access to Slow Streets.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

Who lets their kids play in the streets?

It used to be really common before cars. It's declined because cars turn otherwise normal people into sociopaths who can't be expected not to run over children and it's a loss for our kids.

Before cars? You mean the 1800s?

Try to come up with a less stupid argument.

[Anonymous]

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Who lets their kids play in the streets?

People whose kids have access to Slow Streets.

Ha. This is something only a white guy with no kids would say.

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Who lets their kids play in the streets?

People whose kids have access to Slow Streets.

Ha. This is something only a white guy with no kids would say.

Do what now? Seriously, what do you think people are doing? Are you the person who can't see people on bikes, and you can't see kids in the street either?

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

Who lets their kids play in the streets?

It used to be really common before cars. It's declined because cars turn otherwise normal people into sociopaths who can't be expected not to run over children and it's a loss for our kids.

Before cars? You mean the 1800s?

Try to come up with a less stupid argument.

DP. No, the 1920s. It's a historical fact.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

Who lets their kids play in the streets?

It used to be really common before cars. It's declined because cars turn otherwise normal people into sociopaths who can't be expected not to run over children and it's a loss for our kids.

Before cars? You mean the 1800s?

Try to come up with a less stupid argument.

DP. No, the 1920s. It's a historical fact.

There were more than 1,000 different car companies in the US in the late 1800s.

[Anonymous]

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There were more than 1,000 different car companies in the US in the late 1800s.

Were there automobiles in the late 1800s? Yes, there were.

When did cars take over city streets in the US, to the exclusion of everyone else? The 1920s.

Here's something for you to read, or you can just look at the pictures: https://www.vox.com/2015/1/15/7551873/jaywalking-history

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

Who lets their kids play in the streets?

It used to be really common before cars. It's declined because cars turn otherwise normal people into sociopaths who can't be expected not to run over children and it's a loss for our kids.

Before cars? You mean the 1800s?

Try to come up with a less stupid argument.

Cars really came to dominate the urban landscape in the '20s as another user pointed out, but even then the effects are gradual. Street games were still a feature of life in American cities well into the 20th century. What your dismissing out of hand as ludicrous was a regular part of life for our grandparents.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

See, that's really weird, because until recently (= cars), here's where city kids played: in the streets.

I’ve been in DC for 25 years and I don’t remember kids ever playing the streets. Good way of getting yourself killed.

Who lets their kids play in the streets?

It used to be really common before cars. It's declined because cars turn otherwise normal people into sociopaths who can't be expected not to run over children and it's a loss for our kids.

Before cars? You mean the 1800s?

Try to come up with a less stupid argument.

Cars really came to dominate the urban landscape in the '20s as another user pointed out, but even then the effects are gradual. Street games were still a feature of life in American cities well into the 20th century. What your dismissing out of hand as ludicrous was a regular part of life for our grandparents.

Children playing in the streets of major American cities are a major feature in poorly informed twentysomethings’ imaginings of what the past was probably like.