What the number of children you have say about you?

[Anonymous]

"I grew up with 3 siblings and the 4 of us were also very close."

You do realize that your experience is meaningless as an argument and it's not even interesting enough to be partially persuasive?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"I grew up with 3 siblings and the 4 of us were also very close."

You do realize that your experience is meaningless as an argument and it's not even interesting enough to be partially persuasive?

Uh oh. Another asshat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're children, folks. Let's dial down the vitriol just a little bit, can we? They're not rats, they're not cockroaches, they're children. You can disagree with their parents' choices all you like, but it's not the kids' fault.

Unfortunately, they're still a litter and won't amount to much bc there are so many of them.

8 hrs sleep
8 hrs work
2 hrs commute
1 hr to shower and get ready in AM
2 hrs to cook & clean (breakfast, lunch, dinner)
total = 21 hours used

There's 3 hours or 180 minutes left. If you have 8, 10, 12+ kids, how much time do you actually get to spend with each of them? This gives you 15-22 minutes per day to spend with each child. Can you even remember their birthdays?

I grew up in a fairly religious community and knew many families with 6-10 kids. Most had SAHMs and all spent quality time together and were very close. I grew up with 3 siblings and the 4 of us were also very close. I love a big family, and assuming I can financially afford it, I plan to have 4 myself. Just because it isnt your choice doesnt mean that it doesnt work for other families. Kids get attention from their siblings, grandparents, and parents.

But 4 is no where near 8, 12, 19 kids, is it?

No, but who cares as long as it works for that family? I'd probably have more than 4 if we could afford it. Also, many people who marry young - early 20's - have more child-bearing years and feel like they can handle more kids. Why such vitriol directed to them?

I think the vitriol is not directed at the kids as much as the parents who choose to have so many. It may be an intellectual grasp for many in the public, but the earth cannot continue to sustain such high breeding populations that keep consuming. Wars and conflicts generally happen in places where there is a very high population scrambling for limited basic resources: food, water, energy. These regions of conflict in the world have 6, 8, 14 kids per family

In the US, it's far worse with a throwaway culture with such large families consuming and wasting and filling landfills with small and large trash, driving cars, carbon emissions ... anybody get the picture?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I grew up with 3 siblings and the 4 of us were also very close."

You do realize that your experience is meaningless as an argument and it's not even interesting enough to be partially persuasive?

Uh oh. Another asshat.

How do you know it's a different one? Are you a product of a litter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I grew up with 3 siblings and the 4 of us were also very close."

You do realize that your experience is meaningless as an argument and it's not even interesting enough to be partially persuasive?

Uh oh. Another asshat.

How do you know it's a different one? Are you a product of a litter?

There are so many asshats around here it's very hard to keep track... I actually think they all came from the same litter, they just don't know it. And no, I have no siblings. My mom might remind some people here of a whale or a dolphin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:They're children, folks. Let's dial down the vitriol just a little bit, can we? They're not rats, they're not cockroaches, they're children. You can disagree with their parents' choices all you like, but it's not the kids' fault.

Unfortunately, they're still a litter and won't amount to much bc there are so many of them.

8 hrs sleep
8 hrs work
2 hrs commute
1 hr to shower and get ready in AM
2 hrs to cook & clean (breakfast, lunch, dinner)
total = 21 hours used

There's 3 hours or 180 minutes left. If you have 8, 10, 12+ kids, how much time do you actually get to spend with each of them? This gives you 15-22 minutes per day to spend with each child. Can you even remember their birthdays?

I grew up in a fairly religious community and knew many families with 6-10 kids. Most had SAHMs and all spent quality time together and were very close. I grew up with 3 siblings and the 4 of us were also very close. I love a big family, and assuming I can financially afford it, I plan to have 4 myself. Just because it isnt your choice doesnt mean that it doesnt work for other families. Kids get attention from their siblings, grandparents, and parents.

But 4 is no where near 8, 12, 19 kids, is it?

No, but who cares as long as it works for that family? I'd probably have more than 4 if we could afford it. Also, many people who marry young - early 20's - have more child-bearing years and feel like they can handle more kids. Why such vitriol directed to them?

I think the vitriol is not directed at the kids as much as the parents who choose to have so many. It may be an intellectual grasp for many in the public, but the earth cannot continue to sustain such high breeding populations that keep consuming. Wars and conflicts generally happen in places where there is a very high population scrambling for limited basic resources: food, water, energy. These regions of conflict in the world have 6, 8, 14 kids per family

In the US, it's far worse with a throwaway culture with such large families consuming and wasting and filling landfills with small and large trash, driving cars, carbon emissions ... anybody get the picture?

These children have been called rats, roaches, and "still a litter and won't amount to much."

[Anonymous]

Would you have the same issues with a family that chose to have 8-12 kids but lived on a farm and used reusable diapers and 1 car and were very "green"?

The Duggars home-school, so they arent taking away precious tax dollars for public schoo for 20 kids and they are financially stable so they arent relying on food stamps or tax dollars. Who cares how many kids they have? How does it impact your life at all?

It seems that a lot of this anger is directed at families that they think are "breeders" not bc of their environmental impact, but simply bc the posters dont think thats the way it should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would you have the same issues with a family that chose to have 8-12 kids but lived on a farm and used reusable diapers and 1 car and were very "green"?

The Duggars home-school, so they arent taking away precious tax dollars for public schoo for 20 kids and they are financially stable so they arent relying on food stamps or tax dollars. Who cares how many kids they have? How does it impact your life at all?

It seems that a lot of this anger is directed at families that they think are "breeders" not bc of their environmental impact, but simply bc the posters dont think thats the way it should be.

Assuming that all of this makes their carbon footprint and their consumption relatively minor, how can you possibly account for how these 19 kids will live their lives? Will they all live such--ahem--spartan and green lives? Or will they go off and live like most Americans? I don't know, and neither do you. But the "how does it impact your life at all" ignorant insularity is precisely why we are in a situation in which it is at all an issue: a complete disregard for the larger world, outside of one's cozy confines, is inexcusable. The Duggars are 110% grotesque to me in their complete lack of a social conscience. They exists to promote an agenda--a religious agenda. And how lucky they are that they can make some money off of it, too! What a country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I grew up with 3 siblings and the 4 of us were also very close."

You do realize that your experience is meaningless as an argument and it's not even interesting enough to be partially persuasive?

Uh oh. Another asshat.

I think I like the term fucktard better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I grew up with 3 siblings and the 4 of us were also very close."

You do realize that your experience is meaningless as an argument and it's not even interesting enough to be partially persuasive?

Uh oh. Another asshat.

I think I like the term fucktard better

today is the ban on 'retard' day. thanks for a good alternative!

[Anonymous]

I am hopeful that many of the posts against families of 2-3 are from the same 1 or 2 disturbed individuals....I am content that the world will be a better place if they limit their breeding to 1 - or better yet none. Perhaps ou would be more comfortable moving out of the US into a country that limits the number of children a family can have....I would be willing to assist with moving costs if that is the case.

Signed, Mom awaiting #4 and who believes this is my optimal number...plus I have many childless friends who are happy to lend me their allocated 1 or 2 - I have great kids!