NCAA Recruiting

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m getting whiplash going between this thread and those on the College and University forum. If you did a poll over there, I’d expect 99% of the posters would pick an Ivy or a 25% athletic scholarship at Notre Dame over a full ride at CMU, Mason, etc. if there was any possible way to swing the pricier and more highly rated school.

Of course, a lot of those posters also seem to believe that all athletes are stupid and that the admissions advantages athletic recruitment confers are an unsupportable outrage.

Perhaps people would pick an Ivy, but I think most would pick a full ride in a good college over graduating from ND with a mountain of student debt.

This is a soccer forum. Where does the level and quality of soccer factor in? It’s a big deal for my DD who also happens to get excellent grades and would be academically competitive at all of the above. If you’re looking at level and quality of SOCCER, then ND.

A Virginia kid going to an out of state school will pay almost 4x that of a in-state student. So a 25 percent scholarship for academics and a 25 percent scholarship for athletics will not nearly go as far. Yes, ND is awesome. I would love for my kid to go there. However, a full ride to a lesser in-state program, both academically and athletically, where my kid can play and graduate debt free is the winner. Why? Because I agree with the poster who said that the degree is more important than the school.

Not me. If my kid is good enough to get an admissions advantage and play for a highly ranked school, then we’ll be happy to pay for that even if they could get a full ride elsewhere. I know this is not an option for folks who need aid in order to afford school.

I am surprised by the people here saying connections and school reputation don’t matter. That has not been my experience at all at least for kids’ first job or two post graduation. Of course the level of soccer matters as well, along with team and coach dynamics and the likelihood of playing time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m getting whiplash going between this thread and those on the College and University forum. If you did a poll over there, I’d expect 99% of the posters would pick an Ivy or a 25% athletic scholarship at Notre Dame over a full ride at CMU, Mason, etc. if there was any possible way to swing the pricier and more highly rated school.

Of course, a lot of those posters also seem to believe that all athletes are stupid and that the admissions advantages athletic recruitment confers are an unsupportable outrage.

Perhaps people would pick an Ivy, but I think most would pick a full ride in a good college over graduating from ND with a mountain of student debt.

This is a soccer forum. Where does the level and quality of soccer factor in? It’s a big deal for my DD who also happens to get excellent grades and would be academically competitive at all of the above. If you’re looking at level and quality of SOCCER, then ND.

A Virginia kid going to an out of state school will pay almost 4x that of a in-state student. So a 25 percent scholarship for academics and a 25 percent scholarship for athletics will not nearly go as far. Yes, ND is awesome. I would love for my kid to go there. However, a full ride to a lesser in-state program, both academically and athletically, where my kid can play and graduate debt free is the winner. Why? Because I agree with the poster who said that the degree is more important than the school.

Not me. If my kid is good enough to get an admissions advantage and play for a highly ranked school, then we’ll be happy to pay for that even if they could get a full ride elsewhere. I know this is not an option for folks who need aid in order to afford school.

I am surprised by the people here saying connections and school reputation don’t matter. That has not been my experience at all at least for kids’ first job or two post graduation. Of course the level of soccer matters as well, along with team and coach dynamics and the likelihood of playing time.

I can afford it and still wont do it. Its like sending your kid to private school while living in Loudoun County....Or buying a house in an undesirable school district and sending your kid to "Insert Private School" which costs $120,000. Why not just put that $120,000 into a house in a better school district and recoup that money when you sell.

The vast majority of people doing well financially in this area are from State schools.

JMU
VT
Radford
Mason
Penn State
etc

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I can afford it and still wont do it. Its like sending your kid to private school while living in Loudoun County....Or buying a house in an undesirable school district and sending your kid to "Insert Private School" which costs $120,000. Why not just put that $120,000 into a house in a better school district and recoup that money when you sell.

The vast majority of people doing well financially in this area are from State schools.

JMU
VT
Radford
Mason
Penn State
etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
JMU
VT
Radford
Mason
Penn State
etc

One of these schools doesn't belong in this grouping!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
JMU
VT
Radford
Mason
Penn State
etc

One of these schools doesn't belong in this grouping!

I know a lot of successful people from Radford (If that’s what you are getting at).

[Anonymous]

Not me. If my kid is good enough to get an admissions advantage and play for a highly ranked school, then we’ll be happy to pay for that even if they could get a full ride elsewhere. I know this is not an option for folks who need aid in order to afford school.

I am surprised by the people here saying connections and school reputation don’t matter. That has not been my experience at all at least for kids’ first job or two post graduation. Of course the level of soccer matters as well, along with team and coach dynamics and the likelihood of playing time.

Actually "folks who need aid" will get it (based on the FAFSA results and the family financial situation) and should apply to the most expensive school they can get accepted. Families that have saved will pay full freight and not qualify for most aid that is offered.

[Anonymous]

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Not me. If my kid is good enough to get an admissions advantage and play for a highly ranked school, then we’ll be happy to pay for that even if they could get a full ride elsewhere. I know this is not an option for folks who need aid in order to afford school.

I am surprised by the people here saying connections and school reputation don’t matter. That has not been my experience at all at least for kids’ first job or two post graduation. Of course the level of soccer matters as well, along with team and coach dynamics and the likelihood of playing time.

Actually "folks who need aid" will get it (based on the FAFSA results and the family financial situation) and should apply to the most expensive school they can get accepted. Families that have saved will pay full freight and not qualify for most aid that is offered.

So don’t let them know you saved

[Anonymous]

150,000 for a Catholic HS degree followed by 150,000 for a college degree. For one kid. Seems like an awesome investment.

Good job - Thumbs up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:150,000 for a Catholic HS degree followed by 150,000 for a college degree. For one kid. Seems like an awesome investment.

Good job - Thumbs up

When people in this area see the differences in live versus remote learners on the other side of the pandemic, at least one of those years of catholic high school will look like a fantastic investment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:150,000 for a Catholic HS degree followed by 150,000 for a college degree. For one kid. Seems like an awesome investment.

Good job - Thumbs up

When people in this area see the differences in live versus remote learners on the other side of the pandemic, at least one of those years of catholic high school will look like a fantastic investment.

Not at the price point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:150,000 for a Catholic HS degree followed by 150,000 for a college degree. For one kid. Seems like an awesome investment.

Good job - Thumbs up

When people in this area see the differences in live versus remote learners on the other side of the pandemic, at least one of those years of catholic high school will look like a fantastic investment.

Kids who excelled as remote learners will standout in the eyes of good schools. Kids who could flourish under adverse conditions will say far more about the student than the kids who were not challenged in the same ways.

[Anonymous]

Curious to see if college coaches will be watching High school matches when the recruiting window opens, the ECNL will be finished outside of showcase and nationals. It would be a big boost to high school soccer if colleges attended games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious to see if college coaches will be watching High school matches when the recruiting window opens, the ECNL will be finished outside of showcase and nationals. It would be a big boost to high school soccer if colleges attended games.

Absolutely not

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Curious to see if college coaches will be watching High school matches when the recruiting window opens, the ECNL will be finished outside of showcase and nationals. It would be a big boost to high school soccer if colleges attended games.

Absolutely not

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious to see if college coaches will be watching High school matches when the recruiting window opens, the ECNL will be finished outside of showcase and nationals. It would be a big boost to high school soccer if colleges attended games.

Coaches already go to high school games. They always have. Keep in mind that high school soccer is already played in different seasons in many states. Florida, for example, plays HS soccer in the winter season. And in about 40 percent of the states it is a spring sport. Absolutely college coaches will go see a game if a kid they are considering is playing.

I also know this for sure as my daughter was recruited from her high school season. The coach had not seen her play and we were a spring high school season state. She was just one of several kids on her HS team who went on to play in college. Most games had a few coaches stop in. Her future college coach came to a game and stayed about 5 minutes into the game. At the time I thought - “that’s not good. No way my kid gets an offer there.” But, that night she got a call from her club coach who said the college coach had called and was excited about her and wanted her to call him (convoluted but ncaa recruiting rules). Turns out the coach was very impressed watching her do pregame captain stuff - getting herself and her teammates warmed up and ready to play.

High school games are convenient if schools play in the Spring and keep in mind that 75 percent of kids will play for a college within 150 miles of their high school.