NCAA Recruiting

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There are a few coaches who will watch local high school games but not many and not often. Had two coaches tell us the same thing when we asked the about coming to HS games, they don't want to watch high-school because the level of competition is so random that they can't accurately assess players. That said we have seen coaches from Howard and GMU at our games so there are some coaches who will go to HS games.

[Anonymous]

Some high schools with talented teams might warrant a visit from a coach who is in the area but most coaches are not traveling significant distance to see a kid play high school. All but a hand full of schools in the DMV (McDonogh, GC, SJ, AS) warrant any consideration.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a few coaches who will watch local high school games but not many and not often. Had two coaches tell us the same thing when we asked the about coming to HS games, they don't want to watch high-school because the level of competition is so random that they can't accurately assess players. That said we have seen coaches from Howard and GMU at our games so there are some coaches who will go to HS games.

If a college coach is coming to a HS game they are most certainly coming to watch a player who they are already familiar with in club. They are not going to games to turn over any rocks to find a player.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a few coaches who will watch local high school games but not many and not often. Had two coaches tell us the same thing when we asked the about coming to HS games, they don't want to watch high-school because the level of competition is so random that they can't accurately assess players. That said we have seen coaches from Howard and GMU at our games so there are some coaches who will go to HS games.

If a college coach is coming to a HS game they are most certainly coming to watch a player who they are already familiar with in club. They are not going to games to turn over any rocks to find a player.

If a coach is coming to a club game they are most certainly coming to watch a player who they are already familiar with. They are not going to club games to turn over any rocks to find a player. If you think that happens you must learn how recruitment works.

[Anonymous]

I’m getting the sense that the first wave of 2022 girls recruiting has slowed down, with girls that aren’t committed or sitting on offers now waiting until Spring, after the dead period ends. Looking at TopDrawerSoccer, which isn’t perfect but seems to have the most comprehensive list, here’s how the nearby clubs stack up in the D1 recruiting sweepstakes for class of 2022 girls so far — number of verbal commitments:

FCV 6
Richmond 5
Arlington 4
BRYC 4
Bethesda 3
VDA 2
Loudoun 1
MD United 1
Baltimore Armour 0
Baltimore Celtic 0
Mclean 0
Metro United 0
Pipeline 0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m getting the sense that the first wave of 2022 girls recruiting has slowed down, with girls that aren’t committed or sitting on offers now waiting until Spring, after the dead period ends. Looking at TopDrawerSoccer, which isn’t perfect but seems to have the most comprehensive list, here’s how the nearby clubs stack up in the D1 recruiting sweepstakes for class of 2022 girls so far — number of verbal commitments:

FCV 6
Richmond 5
Arlington 4
BRYC 4
Bethesda 3
VDA 2
Loudoun 1
MD United 1
Baltimore Armour 0
Baltimore Celtic 0
Mclean 0
Metro United 0
Pipeline 0

Coaches just want to see kids live now. The dead period ends in April and then you’ll see things pick up the pace dramatically.

[Anonymous]

Do you think the dead period will end in April? If so, why since they keep extending. What will it take for it to end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think the dead period will end in April? If so, why since they keep extending. What will it take for it to end.

I think it will end and if extended it will be extended only by weeks.

My gut says vaccinations will play a role.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think the dead period will end in April? If so, why since they keep extending. What will it take for it to end.

I’m hearing it will end in April. Football and basketball need to get recruiting, so everyone else will benefit too.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think the dead period will end in April? If so, why since they keep extending. What will it take for it to end.

I think it will end and if extended it will be extended only by weeks.

My gut says vaccinations will play a role.

How do you figure? I would guess that virtually no students will have been vaccinated by then.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think the dead period will end in April? If so, why since they keep extending. What will it take for it to end.

I think it will end and if extended it will be extended only by weeks.

My gut says vaccinations will play a role.

How do you figure? I would guess that virtually no students will have been vaccinated by then.

Vulnerable populations will hopefully have been vaccinated and we will hopefully start to transition to vaccinating the general population by spring.

Kids won’t get the vaccine until late summer at best anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think the dead period will end in April? If so, why since they keep extending. What will it take for it to end.

I’m hearing it will end in April. Football and basketball need to get recruiting, so everyone else will benefit too.

By running it through April, the NCAA could reduce the risk of March madness being impacted. The only reason it was extended was to protect TV revenue. It has nothing to do with vaccinations or spread, etc... it will end 4/15 (unless something wacky happens.)

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Anonymous wrote:Scholarships can be increased. If money isn't available freshman year because of those fifth year seniors sticking around she can think of it as a year-long tryout to prove her worth for when that money frees up next year.

This is not a one year only thing. NCAA allows all current students an extra year of eligibility, so you could see some effects for the next 4 years. It could reduce incoming class sizes for up to 4 years. Players on the cusp of making a college squad may not get in at all.

You're misunderstanding what the players staying on a fifth year are tying up. The issue isn't the number of roster spots, it's the number of athletic scholarship dollars available. The coaches can still take the same number of incoming freshman, they just won't have as much athletic scholarship free up if scholarship players who were expected to leave choose to stay. If your kid had good priorities and a good GPA they'll get academic money instead of athletic to make up for it.

Either way, it's not a great situation. Less money, and less playing time than normal. And I don't see schools subsiding the lack of athletic money with academic money. The extra year of eligibility puts incoming freshmen who are on the cusp at a disadvantage, and it will last for years.

So, go to VT on a quarter or go to ODU on a full. What would you do?

Let's say the difference is 80,000 savings over 4 years.

What is the best-school-but-no-scholarship option, and what does she want to study?

Put.all that aside....i really want to hear what people have to say on this.......

Your kid, a very good player, gets an offer to play out of state at Notre Dame on a partial (25 percent) scholarship. Its your kids dream school. Your kid also has offers to play in-state at JMU, ODU and Mason on a full ride.

What would you want your kid to choose?

Neither. JMU, ODU and Mason aren't giving out full rides - not to girls.

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Anonymous wrote:Scholarships can be increased. If money isn't available freshman year because of those fifth year seniors sticking around she can think of it as a year-long tryout to prove her worth for when that money frees up next year.

This is not a one year only thing. NCAA allows all current students an extra year of eligibility, so you could see some effects for the next 4 years. It could reduce incoming class sizes for up to 4 years. Players on the cusp of making a college squad may not get in at all.

You're misunderstanding what the players staying on a fifth year are tying up. The issue isn't the number of roster spots, it's the number of athletic scholarship dollars available. The coaches can still take the same number of incoming freshman, they just won't have as much athletic scholarship free up if scholarship players who were expected to leave choose to stay. If your kid had good priorities and a good GPA they'll get academic money instead of athletic to make up for it.

Either way, it's not a great situation. Less money, and less playing time than normal. And I don't see schools subsiding the lack of athletic money with academic money. The extra year of eligibility puts incoming freshmen who are on the cusp at a disadvantage, and it will last for years.

So, go to VT on a quarter or go to ODU on a full. What would you do?

Let's say the difference is 80,000 savings over 4 years.

What is the best-school-but-no-scholarship option, and what does she want to study?

Put.all that aside....i really want to hear what people have to say on this.......

Your kid, a very good player, gets an offer to play out of state at Notre Dame on a partial (25 percent) scholarship. Its your kids dream school. Your kid also has offers to play in-state at JMU, ODU and Mason on a full ride.

What would you want your kid to choose?

Neither. JMU, ODU and Mason aren't giving out full rides - not to girls.

So, who is? And the point is about how far money goes with in-state vs out of state cost.

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Anonymous wrote:Scholarships can be increased. If money isn't available freshman year because of those fifth year seniors sticking around she can think of it as a year-long tryout to prove her worth for when that money frees up next year.

This is not a one year only thing. NCAA allows all current students an extra year of eligibility, so you could see some effects for the next 4 years. It could reduce incoming class sizes for up to 4 years. Players on the cusp of making a college squad may not get in at all.

You're misunderstanding what the players staying on a fifth year are tying up. The issue isn't the number of roster spots, it's the number of athletic scholarship dollars available. The coaches can still take the same number of incoming freshman, they just won't have as much athletic scholarship free up if scholarship players who were expected to leave choose to stay. If your kid had good priorities and a good GPA they'll get academic money instead of athletic to make up for it.

Either way, it's not a great situation. Less money, and less playing time than normal. And I don't see schools subsiding the lack of athletic money with academic money. The extra year of eligibility puts incoming freshmen who are on the cusp at a disadvantage, and it will last for years.

So, go to VT on a quarter or go to ODU on a full. What would you do?

Let's say the difference is 80,000 savings over 4 years.

What is the best-school-but-no-scholarship option, and what does she want to study?

Put.all that aside....i really want to hear what people have to say on this.......

Your kid, a very good player, gets an offer to play out of state at Notre Dame on a partial (25 percent) scholarship. Its your kids dream school. Your kid also has offers to play in-state at JMU, ODU and Mason on a full ride.

What would you want your kid to choose?

Neither. JMU, ODU and Mason aren't giving out full rides - not to girls.

So, who is? And the point is about how far money goes with in-state vs out of state cost.

Full rides in women's soccer are very rare because the limited number of scholarships available. A full ride is more about the athlete than the school.