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Anonymous wrote:Been watching the girls’ commitments over the last month. A lot of colleges seem to be making offers in the last week or two for the 2022s. It’s gonna be a really rough spring for kids who haven’t yet committed.


Why do you say that? 90 percent of 2022 haven't comitted


For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.


If the player is Top 40 material, they would be in talks with the Top 40 coaches.



I know, my heart absolutely bleeds for those 800 kids across the nation in this spot.


The average class size is about 7...40x7 is 280.





There are roughly 800 kids being consistent for those 200+ spots.


Thats fine. Theyre all in the same boat.


No they aren’t. They’ll get to play in college, they just might have to lower their sights a little bit, but they will be recruited.

No, they aren’t in the same boat as most kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Been watching the girls’ commitments over the last month. A lot of colleges seem to be making offers in the last week or two for the 2022s. It’s gonna be a really rough spring for kids who haven’t yet committed.


Why do you say that? 90 percent of 2022 haven't comitted


For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.


If the player is Top 40 material, they would be in talks with the Top 40 coaches.



I know, my heart absolutely bleeds for those 800 kids across the nation in this spot.


The average class size is about 7...40x7 is 280.





There are roughly 800 kids being consistent for those 200+ spots.


Thats fine. Theyre all in the same boat.


No they aren’t. They’ll get to play in college, they just might have to lower their sights a little bit, but they will be recruited.

No, they aren’t in the same boat as most kids.


Okay. Maybe I'm just not that smart...but I don't see how there is an advantage. Please explain the following.

1. How does one 2022 have a recruiting advantage over another 2022?

And no disrespect, but "lowering their sights" is something they should have been doing the whole recruiting process. There is nothing worse then realizing you're not Top 50 material too late in the process. The idea is to get as many schools interested as possible.. My kid wrote Top 100, Top 200 and Top 300 schools. She wrote every single in-state school. Why? Because quarter and half scholarships go much further with in-state tuition.

Some parents rather their kid walk on and sit the bench at an ACC school verse taking a full ride to a in-state school like GMU, Radford, ODU, etc. Not me, I say take the money, go play and have fun. Its the last hooray.









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Anonymous wrote:Been watching the girls’ commitments over the last month. A lot of colleges seem to be making offers in the last week or two for the 2022s. It’s gonna be a really rough spring for kids who haven’t yet committed.


Why do you say that? 90 percent of 2022 haven't comitted


For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.


If the player is Top 40 material, they would be in talks with the Top 40 coaches.



I know, my heart absolutely bleeds for those 800 kids across the nation in this spot.


The average class size is about 7...40x7 is 280.





There are roughly 800 kids being consistent for those 200+ spots.


Thats fine. Theyre all in the same boat.


No they aren’t. They’ll get to play in college, they just might have to lower their sights a little bit, but they will be recruited.

No, they aren’t in the same boat as most kids.


Okay. Maybe I'm just not that smart...but I don't see how there is an advantage. Please explain the following.

1. How does one 2022 have a recruiting advantage over another 2022?

And no disrespect, but "lowering their sights" is something they should have been doing the whole recruiting process. There is nothing worse then realizing you're not Top 50 material too late in the process. The idea is to get as many schools interested as possible.. My kid wrote Top 100, Top 200 and Top 300 schools. She wrote every single in-state school. Why? Because quarter and half scholarships go much further with in-state tuition.

Some parents rather their kid walk on and sit the bench at an ACC school verse taking a full ride to a in-state school like GMU, Radford, ODU, etc. Not me, I say take the money, go play and have fun. Its the last hooray.











If you are a kid who is being recruited by a top 40 program but don’t get an offer for a top 40 program there are still other programs 41-100 where you will land. Those top 800 or so kids will find a school so a lot of unnecessary handwringing.

I just don’t see where all the sympathy is supposed to come from. They’ll be ok.
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Anonymous wrote:Been watching the girls’ commitments over the last month. A lot of colleges seem to be making offers in the last week or two for the 2022s. It’s gonna be a really rough spring for kids who haven’t yet committed.


Why do you say that? 90 percent of 2022 haven't comitted


For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.


If the player is Top 40 material, they would be in talks with the Top 40 coaches.



I know, my heart absolutely bleeds for those 800 kids across the nation in this spot.


The average class size is about 7...40x7 is 280.





There are roughly 800 kids being consistent for those 200+ spots.


Thats fine. Theyre all in the same boat.


No they aren’t. They’ll get to play in college, they just might have to lower their sights a little bit, but they will be recruited.

No, they aren’t in the same boat as most kids.


Okay. Maybe I'm just not that smart...but I don't see how there is an advantage. Please explain the following.

1. How does one 2022 have a recruiting advantage over another 2022?

And no disrespect, but "lowering their sights" is something they should have been doing the whole recruiting process. There is nothing worse then realizing you're not Top 50 material too late in the process. The idea is to get as many schools interested as possible.. My kid wrote Top 100, Top 200 and Top 300 schools. She wrote every single in-state school. Why? Because quarter and half scholarships go much further with in-state tuition.

Some parents rather their kid walk on and sit the bench at an ACC school verse taking a full ride to a in-state school like GMU, Radford, ODU, etc. Not me, I say take the money, go play and have fun. Its the last hooray.











If you are a kid who is being recruited by a top 40 program but don’t get an offer for a top 40 program there are still other programs 41-100 where you will land. Those top 800 or so kids will find a school so a lot of unnecessary handwringing.

I just don’t see where all the sympathy is supposed to come from. They’ll be ok.


So why are you responding to my post? I am aware of all of this. And what sympathy are you talking about? It goes without saying that the top 800 kids in the nation will find roster spots. So back to the conversation....

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Anonymous wrote:Been watching the girls’ commitments over the last month. A lot of colleges seem to be making offers in the last week or two for the 2022s. It’s gonna be a really rough spring for kids who haven’t yet committed.


Why do you say that? 90 percent of 2022 haven't comitted


For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.


If the player is Top 40 material, they would be in talks with the Top 40 coaches.



I know, my heart absolutely bleeds for those 800 kids across the nation in this spot.


The average class size is about 7...40x7 is 280.





There are roughly 800 kids being consistent for those 200+ spots.


Thats fine. Theyre all in the same boat.


No they aren’t. They’ll get to play in college, they just might have to lower their sights a little bit, but they will be recruited.

No, they aren’t in the same boat as most kids.


Okay. Maybe I'm just not that smart...but I don't see how there is an advantage. Please explain the following.

1. How does one 2022 have a recruiting advantage over another 2022?

And no disrespect, but "lowering their sights" is something they should have been doing the whole recruiting process. There is nothing worse then realizing you're not Top 50 material too late in the process. The idea is to get as many schools interested as possible.. My kid wrote Top 100, Top 200 and Top 300 schools. She wrote every single in-state school. Why? Because quarter and half scholarships go much further with in-state tuition.

Some parents rather their kid walk on and sit the bench at an ACC school verse taking a full ride to a in-state school like GMU, Radford, ODU, etc. Not me, I say take the money, go play and have fun. Its the last hooray.











If you are a kid who is being recruited by a top 40 program but don’t get an offer for a top 40 program there are still other programs 41-100 where you will land. Those top 800 or so kids will find a school so a lot of unnecessary handwringing.

I just don’t see where all the sympathy is supposed to come from. They’ll be ok.


So why are you responding to my post? I am aware of all of this. And what sympathy are you talking about? It goes without saying that the top 800 kids in the nation will find roster spots. So back to the conversation....



I was initially responding to the following quote:

“ For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.”

My point is, that kids who are in ongoing conversations with Top 40 programs do not have it “tough”.
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Anonymous wrote:Been watching the girls’ commitments over the last month. A lot of colleges seem to be making offers in the last week or two for the 2022s. It’s gonna be a really rough spring for kids who haven’t yet committed.


Why do you say that? 90 percent of 2022 haven't comitted


For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.


If the player is Top 40 material, they would be in talks with the Top 40 coaches.



I know, my heart absolutely bleeds for those 800 kids across the nation in this spot.


The average class size is about 7...40x7 is 280.





There are roughly 800 kids being consistent for those 200+ spots.


Thats fine. Theyre all in the same boat.


No they aren’t. They’ll get to play in college, they just might have to lower their sights a little bit, but they will be recruited.

No, they aren’t in the same boat as most kids.


Okay. Maybe I'm just not that smart...but I don't see how there is an advantage. Please explain the following.

1. How does one 2022 have a recruiting advantage over another 2022?

And no disrespect, but "lowering their sights" is something they should have been doing the whole recruiting process. There is nothing worse then realizing you're not Top 50 material too late in the process. The idea is to get as many schools interested as possible.. My kid wrote Top 100, Top 200 and Top 300 schools. She wrote every single in-state school. Why? Because quarter and half scholarships go much further with in-state tuition.

Some parents rather their kid walk on and sit the bench at an ACC school verse taking a full ride to a in-state school like GMU, Radford, ODU, etc. Not me, I say take the money, go play and have fun. Its the last hooray.











If you are a kid who is being recruited by a top 40 program but don’t get an offer for a top 40 program there are still other programs 41-100 where you will land. Those top 800 or so kids will find a school so a lot of unnecessary handwringing.

I just don’t see where all the sympathy is supposed to come from. They’ll be ok.


So why are you responding to my post? I am aware of all of this. And what sympathy are you talking about? It goes without saying that the top 800 kids in the nation will find roster spots. So back to the conversation....



I was initially responding to the following quote:

“ For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.”

My point is, that kids who are in ongoing conversations with Top 40 programs do not have it “tough”.


Most parents who think their kid is Top 40 don't understand the recruiting process. You will know when a school really wants you and you are a top prospect. You will also know when a school is only slightly interested or has lost interest.

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Anonymous wrote:Been watching the girls’ commitments over the last month. A lot of colleges seem to be making offers in the last week or two for the 2022s. It’s gonna be a really rough spring for kids who haven’t yet committed.


Why do you say that? 90 percent of 2022 haven't comitted


For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.


If the player is Top 40 material, they would be in talks with the Top 40 coaches.



I know, my heart absolutely bleeds for those 800 kids across the nation in this spot.


The average class size is about 7...40x7 is 280.





There are roughly 800 kids being consistent for those 200+ spots.


Thats fine. Theyre all in the same boat.


No they aren’t. They’ll get to play in college, they just might have to lower their sights a little bit, but they will be recruited.

No, they aren’t in the same boat as most kids.


Okay. Maybe I'm just not that smart...but I don't see how there is an advantage. Please explain the following.

1. How does one 2022 have a recruiting advantage over another 2022?

And no disrespect, but "lowering their sights" is something they should have been doing the whole recruiting process. There is nothing worse then realizing you're not Top 50 material too late in the process. The idea is to get as many schools interested as possible.. My kid wrote Top 100, Top 200 and Top 300 schools. She wrote every single in-state school. Why? Because quarter and half scholarships go much further with in-state tuition.

Some parents rather their kid walk on and sit the bench at an ACC school verse taking a full ride to a in-state school like GMU, Radford, ODU, etc. Not me, I say take the money, go play and have fun. Its the last hooray.











If you are a kid who is being recruited by a top 40 program but don’t get an offer for a top 40 program there are still other programs 41-100 where you will land. Those top 800 or so kids will find a school so a lot of unnecessary handwringing.

I just don’t see where all the sympathy is supposed to come from. They’ll be ok.


So why are you responding to my post? I am aware of all of this. And what sympathy are you talking about? It goes without saying that the top 800 kids in the nation will find roster spots. So back to the conversation....



I was initially responding to the following quote:

“ For the girls who want top 40 soccer schools, things are tough. Many seem to be building classes earlier than usual.”

My point is, that kids who are in ongoing conversations with Top 40 programs do not have it “tough”.


Most parents who think their kid is Top 40 don't understand the recruiting process. You will know when a school really wants you and you are a top prospect. You will also know when a school is only slightly interested or has lost interest.



I’m not talking about what parents think. I’m talking about who the kids top 40 schools are talking to. If a top 40 school is talking to your kid in any capacity then your kid obviously has top 40 potential. But obviously not all of those kids will find a spot for a variety of reasons.

How hard is this to understand?
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Most parents who think their kid is Top 40 don't understand the recruiting process. You will know when a school really wants you and you are a top prospect. You will also know when a school is only slightly interested or has lost interest.



I’m not talking about what parents think. I’m talking about who the kids top 40 schools are talking to. If a top 40 school is talking to your kid in any capacity then your kid obviously has top 40 potential. But obviously not all of those kids will find a spot for a variety of reasons.

How hard is this to understand?


I understand it because my DD is one of those kids talking to top 40 schools. She is a top prospect at a couple of them. She probably would have had more options, including more options closer to home or for more scholarship money, if the spring season hadn’t been obliterated by COVID (like many, many other things). She will be fine, obviously, but “will be fine” is different from “could have been.” I’m not complaining, just pointing out how the fact that a kid will be fine in the process doesn’t mean that COVID didn’t hurt the process both for kids looking at top 40 schools and for kids looking at any/all schools. This recruiting year sucks in that this entire years sucks in so many different ways.
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COVID did not stop your kid from being a TOP prospect for a Top 40 school. How is this hard to understand?
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Most parents who think their kid is Top 40 don't understand the recruiting process. You will know when a school really wants you and you are a top prospect. You will also know when a school is only slightly interested or has lost interest.



I’m not talking about what parents think. I’m talking about who the kids top 40 schools are talking to. If a top 40 school is talking to your kid in any capacity then your kid obviously has top 40 potential. But obviously not all of those kids will find a spot for a variety of reasons.

How hard is this to understand?


I understand it because my DD is one of those kids talking to top 40 schools. She is a top prospect at a couple of them. She probably would have had more options, including more options closer to home or for more scholarship money, if the spring season hadn’t been obliterated by COVID (like many, many other things). She will be fine, obviously, but “will be fine” is different from “could have been.” I’m not complaining, just pointing out how the fact that a kid will be fine in the process doesn’t mean that COVID didn’t hurt the process both for kids looking at top 40 schools and for kids looking at any/all schools. This recruiting year sucks in that this entire years sucks in so many different ways.


Your kid will get to play college soccer. I’d think under the circumstances you’d be grateful. If she is all that then she can prove herself and transfer to her dream school but until then, take your offer, be thankful and shut up.
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Most parents who think their kid is Top 40 don't understand the recruiting process. You will know when a school really wants you and you are a top prospect. You will also know when a school is only slightly interested or has lost interest.



I’m not talking about what parents think. I’m talking about who the kids top 40 schools are talking to. If a top 40 school is talking to your kid in any capacity then your kid obviously has top 40 potential. But obviously not all of those kids will find a spot for a variety of reasons.

How hard is this to understand?


I understand it because my DD is one of those kids talking to top 40 schools. She is a top prospect at a couple of them. She probably would have had more options, including more options closer to home or for more scholarship money, if the spring season hadn’t been obliterated by COVID (like many, many other things). She will be fine, obviously, but “will be fine” is different from “could have been.” I’m not complaining, just pointing out how the fact that a kid will be fine in the process doesn’t mean that COVID didn’t hurt the process both for kids looking at top 40 schools and for kids looking at any/all schools. This recruiting year sucks in that this entire years sucks in so many different ways.


Your kid will get to play college soccer. I’d think under the circumstances you’d be grateful. If she is all that then she can prove herself and transfer to her dream school but until then, take your offer, be thankful and shut up.


The U9 dad has spoken!
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Scholarships can be increased. If money isn't available freshman year because of those fifth year seniors sticking around she can think of it as a year-long tryout to prove her worth for when that money frees up next year.
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Most parents who think their kid is Top 40 don't understand the recruiting process. You will know when a school really wants you and you are a top prospect. You will also know when a school is only slightly interested or has lost interest.



I’m not talking about what parents think. I’m talking about who the kids top 40 schools are talking to. If a top 40 school is talking to your kid in any capacity then your kid obviously has top 40 potential. But obviously not all of those kids will find a spot for a variety of reasons.

How hard is this to understand?


I understand it because my DD is one of those kids talking to top 40 schools. She is a top prospect at a couple of them. She probably would have had more options, including more options closer to home or for more scholarship money, if the spring season hadn’t been obliterated by COVID (like many, many other things). She will be fine, obviously, but “will be fine” is different from “could have been.” I’m not complaining, just pointing out how the fact that a kid will be fine in the process doesn’t mean that COVID didn’t hurt the process both for kids looking at top 40 schools and for kids looking at any/all schools. This recruiting year sucks in that this entire years sucks in so many different ways.


Your kid will get to play college soccer. I’d think under the circumstances you’d be grateful. If she is all that then she can prove herself and transfer to her dream school but until then, take your offer, be thankful and shut up.


The U9 dad has spoken!


I know, let’s feel bad for the kids who still get recruited. Such entitlement.
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Anonymous wrote:Scholarships can be increased. If money isn't available freshman year because of those fifth year seniors sticking around she can think of it as a year-long tryout to prove her worth for when that money frees up next year.


This is not a one year only thing. NCAA allows all current students an extra year of eligibility, so you could see some effects for the next 4 years. It could reduce incoming class sizes for up to 4 years. Players on the cusp of making a college squad may not get in at all.
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Anonymous wrote:Scholarships can be increased. If money isn't available freshman year because of those fifth year seniors sticking around she can think of it as a year-long tryout to prove her worth for when that money frees up next year.


This is not a one year only thing. NCAA allows all current students an extra year of eligibility, so you could see some effects for the next 4 years. It could reduce incoming class sizes for up to 4 years. Players on the cusp of making a college squad may not get in at all.


1. There are over 320 D1 schools with soccer
2. The vast majority are not staying unless they're on the five year program or grad school. Most are not.
3. Most players are ready to graduate and move on.
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