Just finished The Queen's gambit on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

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Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

Ok. I'm not going to argue with you about it. Agree to disagree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

Ok. I'm not going to argue with you about it. Agree to disagree.

So no other clues? Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

Ok. I'm not going to argue with you about it. Agree to disagree.

So no other clues? Got it.

If you insist... here's a discussion about this very thing. And again, you can see it differently. I don't know why you're getting so defensive.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

Ok. I'm not going to argue with you about it. Agree to disagree.

So no other clues? Got it.

If you insist... here's a discussion about this very thing. And again, you can see it differently. I don't know why you're getting so defensive.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/

All of her behavior falls squarely in the realm of typical for a bright girl in that situation. No need to “diagnose” her FFS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

Ok. I'm not going to argue with you about it. Agree to disagree.

So no other clues? Got it.

If you insist... here's a discussion about this very thing. And again, you can see it differently. I don't know why you're getting so defensive.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/

All of her behavior falls squarely in the realm of typical for a bright girl in that situation. No need to “diagnose” her FFS.

This is DCUM. Everything needs to be diagnosed and everyone needs to be offended.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

Ok. I'm not going to argue with you about it. Agree to disagree.

So no other clues? Got it.

If you insist... here's a discussion about this very thing. And again, you can see it differently. I don't know why you're getting so defensive.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/

All of her behavior falls squarely in the realm of typical for a bright girl in that situation. No need to “diagnose” her FFS.

I have no idea if she’s autistic or not. But, I did find her very lacking in social skills, oddly blunt/direct, and not warm at all. I don’t think she acted like a typical bright girl.

[Anonymous]

General plot was interesting. Acting was good. Lots of holes in the storyline.

And for the person above who said she ran circles around the adopted dad’s lawyer...how so? She wanted to pay less and he asked for $2k more for the house and she agreed immediately. He was going to sell it and instead he sold it to her. She didn’t get an amazing deal and the dad gave nothing up by selling it to her for his full requested amount.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

Ok. I'm not going to argue with you about it. Agree to disagree.

So no other clues? Got it.

If you insist... here's a discussion about this very thing. And again, you can see it differently. I don't know why you're getting so defensive.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/

All of her behavior falls squarely in the realm of typical for a bright girl in that situation. No need to “diagnose” her FFS.

I have no idea if she’s autistic or not. But, I did find her very lacking in social skills, oddly blunt/direct, and not warm at all. I don’t think she acted like a typical bright girl.

I think for the character's situation - an unstable childhood - her social skills were fine. She was able to make friends, when desired. She was also able to adapt quickly to new situations; she could read perceive others' feelings quickly and adjust. She was more receptive than the vapid girls. She explained her cosmopolitan lifestyle and then they were basically "Oh OK. Let's turn on the TV and listen to music."

Many bright people get bored of the idiots.

Diagnosis: brilliant, precocious, and impatient with idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:General plot was interesting. Acting was good. Lots of holes in the storyline.

And for the person above who said she ran circles around the adopted dad’s lawyer...how so? She wanted to pay less and he asked for $2k more for the house and she agreed immediately. He was going to sell it and instead he sold it to her. She didn’t get an amazing deal and the dad gave nothing up by selling it to her for his full requested amount.

He didn’t get quite the full amount. Beth said she would be subtracting the cost of her mother’s funeral. He didn’t question that as he clearly felt like an a**.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Beth supposed to be autistic?
I thought this was a fantastic portrayal of someone with autism without making it the defining aspect of the character's life/personality.

There was something definitely off/different about her. She had no idea what to do with the doll the high school chess coach gave her and couldn't relate to the Apple Pi girls at all. Maybe it was due to her rough start in life or maybe something else like autism.

Uh. She didn’t want the doll because that didn’t interest her. Same with the vapid HS girls.

She was precocious, not autistic.

I must have missed the part where that was specifically stated. Can you remind me when it was said or when we hear a diagnosis?

Episode 3, 18:34

Try again. I remember Miss Deardorff talking about her talent for chess but don't think she used a specific word for it other than "gifted child" in Episode 1 with the high school coach. There are a lot of other clues in the series about Beth that point to something more than just precocity. Either way its all speculation. In the 1960s that wouldn't have been a common diagnosis for a girl. This was the era of "refrigerator mothers". But given what we know today, we might call it something else.

What “clues”?

She didn’t want to play with a doll and thought the girls were vapid. Nothing at all “off” about that.

Thank you

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:General plot was interesting. Acting was good. Lots of holes in the storyline.

And for the person above who said she ran circles around the adopted dad’s lawyer...how so? She wanted to pay less and he asked for $2k more for the house and she agreed immediately. He was going to sell it and instead he sold it to her. She didn’t get an amazing deal and the dad gave nothing up by selling it to her for his full requested amount.

He didn’t get quite the full amount. Beth said she would be subtracting the cost of her mother’s funeral. He didn’t question that as he clearly felt like an a**.

I wouldn’t say that her running circles around the lawyer.

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Anonymous wrote:I finished it. There was no flash back explaining what happened after she overdosed. There was one flashback to her falling off the stool. You never saw who discovered her on the floor, if she went to the hospital, whether the school was sanctioned for it, was her stomach pumped, etc.

? The whole orphanage saw her collapse on to the ground. Miss deardorff says “Elizabeth!” When she is discovered.

+1

Do you need it more drawn out than that?

I think that PP is saying we never see how she recovered from that overdose, whether she or the school was punished, etc.