Where did McLean go wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: We could post all the club commits here side by side and no one would be able to pick the club.

OK. Go ahead. Post other clubs'. I'd be willing to bet you're wrong.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean U19s have 17 commits for class of 2021 per the list someone put on this post: 4 ACC, 2 Georgetown (NCAA final four 2 years ago?), 2 Ivy, 5 Mid major schools including South Florida who went deep into NCAA tourney last year, and 4 strong academic D3 schools. McLean can put those recruiting results up against any team in the DMV.

I would say every club in the DMV can say the exact same thing. McLean is not special. And neither is South Florida or some low level ACC team. Unless they can claim a UNC, UVA, etc... they are not special in any way. We could post all the club commits here side by side and no one would be able to pick the club. Just be proud of your kid and stop living THEIR life.

Define "every."

FVC, VDA, PWSI, Loudoun, Richmond

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean U19s have 17 commits for class of 2021 per the list someone put on this post: 4 ACC, 2 Georgetown (NCAA final four 2 years ago?), 2 Ivy, 5 Mid major schools including South Florida who went deep into NCAA tourney last year, and 4 strong academic D3 schools. McLean can put those recruiting results up against any team in the DMV.

I would say every club in the DMV can say the exact same thing. McLean is not special. And neither is South Florida or some low level ACC team. Unless they can claim a UNC, UVA, etc... they are not special in any way. We could post all the club commits here side by side and no one would be able to pick the club. Just be proud of your kid and stop living THEIR life.

Define "every."

FVC, VDA, PWSI, Loudoun, Richmond

You lost me at low level ACC team.

[Anonymous]

The hate that exist for McLean and FCV is disturbing.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean U19s have 17 commits for class of 2021 per the list someone put on this post: 4 ACC, 2 Georgetown (NCAA final four 2 years ago?), 2 Ivy, 5 Mid major schools including South Florida who went deep into NCAA tourney last year, and 4 strong academic D3 schools. McLean can put those recruiting results up against any team in the DMV.

I would say every club in the DMV can say the exact same thing. McLean is not special. And neither is South Florida or some low level ACC team. Unless they can claim a UNC, UVA, etc... they are not special in any way. We could post all the club commits here side by side and no one would be able to pick the club. Just be proud of your kid and stop living THEIR life.

Define "every."

FVC, VDA, PWSI, Loudoun, Richmond

OK -- Richmond isn't the DMV, and I'm not sure PWSI produces the talent it used to, especially because it's part of VDA.

That's not exactly "every." There are clubs in the GA, ECNL and MLS Next that aren't producing that many solid college players.

So if you already have all the info why are you asking? I'm not going to go collect all the data for YOU! You asked

[Anonymous]

There is no fight. It ended several years ago when McLean solidified its position as one of the top producers if DI prospects in the country. There are larger clubs like PDA, that produce multiples more.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/pda-girls-soccer-announces-over-50-college-commitments/

[Anonymous]

Must say today's announced list of McLean ECNL player college signings is really impressive. Way to go Mclean

[Anonymous]

Truly terrible...I agree...


A total of 22 players signed their National Letters of Intent at a ceremony at Lewinsville Park surrounded by their families and MYS staff members. Both the boys and girls sides were represented, as well as players from both ECNL and travel programs.
Many of the girl’s commitments come from the ECNL 02/03 team, who have gone undefeated for the last 45 ECNL conference games. Three players from the ECNL boy’s side are also represented.
15 players will be continuing their careers at NCAA Division I institutions, while the remaining seven will be heading to NCAA Division III schools. While our DIII players were celebrated this week with our other commitments, they will not be officially signing their Letters of Intent until spring 2021.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Truly terrible...I agree...


A total of 22 players signed their National Letters of Intent at a ceremony at Lewinsville Park surrounded by their families and MYS staff members. Both the boys and girls sides were represented, as well as players from both ECNL and travel programs.
Many of the girl’s commitments come from the ECNL 02/03 team, who have gone undefeated for the last 45 ECNL conference games. Three players from the ECNL boy’s side are also represented.
15 players will be continuing their careers at NCAA Division I institutions, while the remaining seven will be heading to NCAA Division III schools. While our DIII players were celebrated this week with our other commitments, they will not be officially signing their Letters of Intent until spring 2021.

NP - no one can claim "every club" has the track record of placing high-level college commits like FCV and McLean can. That's not really debatable. That being said, however, the landscape is changing here in the DMV. Starting with the 06s or 07s, there are now many other choices for high end soccer (on the girls side). I think it's a bad assumption to think that the two clubs will perennially remain as the top two clubs in the area. When they were the only two choices, that's where the top talent WENT to (read: not necessarily developed at), and hence, were the most highly recruited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NP - no one can claim "every club" has the track record of placing high-level college commits like FCV and McLean can. That's not really debatable. That being said, however, the landscape is changing here in the DMV. Starting with the 06s or 07s, there are now many other choices for high end soccer (on the girls side). I think it's a bad assumption to think that the two clubs will perennially remain as the top two clubs in the area. When they were the only two choices, that's where the top talent WENT to (read: not necessarily developed at), and hence, were the most highly recruited.

+1

Downhill from here for McLean at least on the girls side.

[Anonymous]

Where did McLean go wrong?

Only 22 players signed their National Letters of Intent yesterday!

15 players to D1
7 players to D2
D3 players still to be announced

https://www.mcleansoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=706948

[Anonymous]

Not so sure about downhill...Next year’s commits will not look like the last 3-4 McLean classes but their U17 team is much improved in less than a year and very competitive with the top local teams. The U16s are strong and the U15s are also getting good. Looks like CW, NM, BL are reloading.

[Anonymous]

mclean is doing way better than just about everyone else. stop whining.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately numbers won’t look this good again. A lot more alternatives. This is it for McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately numbers won’t look this good again. A lot more alternatives. This is it for McLean.

While there are more alternatives, the truly elite are always going to be drawn to winning programs with good coaching. So "this is it for McLean" is probably a bit strong. McLean has a great history of turning the corner for U16 and U17 teams. In fact, they are probably the winningest program at U17 and above in the area over the past 5 years The corner turning has continued this year, but dilution and COVID related scaling back of recruiting classes will likely mean fewer placements than in the past. Is this a good thing for the area? We might develop a bumper crop of college grade kids this way (across all clubs), but there is a holding back effect on the most talented. Dilution tends to take the top off the pyramid.