Did anyone else NOT see extended family today?

[Anonymous]

I dropped off brunch food and talked to my mom through her screen door for 10 min or so. Then I went home and we FaceTiimed while we ate our brunch.

[Anonymous]

My brother and I both visited and stayed in the yard. Brought take out that my mom took inside and ate later. We didn't touch, but we did sit at opposite sides of the patio and chat for about an hour.

[Anonymous]

We didn't! My family lives in another state and we'd have to fly there and my husband's family is within driving distance but his dad has several co-morbitities, so no way would we see them now even though we've been as careful as possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We did. My parents came over and we ate outside. I put food on the screened in porch so we we took turns being in there and sat at other ends of our table. Is there a slight risk from this. Yes. But my mom also goes the the grocery every week. I think we were safe. No hugs or touching.

When my mom ventured out to a doctor's appt, Target and to the car wash I knew that it was time to start up visits again.

This business of staying inside your home, completely alone and isolated from the world is not healthy. I feel really bad for the elderly people who have completely lost contact with the outside world. That is no way to "live" your life.

[Anonymous]

My in laws drove to our house to drop some things on our porch for Mother's Day. We went outside and hung out on the porch for 5 minutes and chatted with them while they stood 15 feet away by their car. It was nice to see them in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We did. My parents came over and we ate outside. I put food on the screened in porch so we we took turns being in there and sat at other ends of our table. Is there a slight risk from this. Yes. But my mom also goes the the grocery every week. I think we were safe. No hugs or touching.

When my mom ventured out to a doctor's appt, Target and to the car wash I knew that it was time to start up visits again.

This business of staying inside your home, completely alone and isolated from the world is not healthy. I feel really bad for the elderly people who have completely lost contact with the outside world. That is no way to "live" your life.

I hope you still feel that it’s healthier to have close personal contact with vulnerable people when someone close to you gets very sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My in laws drove to our house to drop some things on our porch for Mother's Day. We went outside and hung out on the porch for 5 minutes and chatted with them while they stood 15 feet away by their car. It was nice to see them in person.

Oh, and we were all wearing masks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We did. My parents came over and we ate outside. I put food on the screened in porch so we we took turns being in there and sat at other ends of our table. Is there a slight risk from this. Yes. But my mom also goes the the grocery every week. I think we were safe. No hugs or touching.

When my mom ventured out to a doctor's appt, Target and to the car wash I knew that it was time to start up visits again.

This business of staying inside your home, completely alone and isolated from the world is not healthy. I feel really bad for the elderly people who have completely lost contact with the outside world. That is no way to "live" your life.

I hope you still feel that it’s healthier to have close personal contact with vulnerable people when someone close to you gets very sick.

We were outside and did not hug so no close personal contact. The chances of her or any of us catching anything from each were so incredibly low.

If I had been driving her around inside the car that would have been more of a worry to me, mask or no mask, because the virus is very small and it is not going to be contained by the kind of masks that we're wearing. Sitting outside in the fresh air, not hugging or getting too close was absolutely fine. And I do mean _ 100% Totally Fine.

[Anonymous]

We dropped off dinner to my parents and stood outside (ten feet away & in masks) to wave. Seemed really safe to us.

[Anonymous]

Are any of the people saying they would NEVER do this getting takeout? Or any type of curbside pickup? Because if you are, you must understand that that is more risky than what some people are saying they are doing - standing 10 feet away, chatting, leaving a bag of something to eat later.

I am very cautious and get anxious about this more than most, but there is a level of activity that is still very safe - and we should be encouraging that so that people don't go insane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thing has gotten so extremely out of hand. We are weeks past the peak and most of our areas never saw that many people getting seriously sick anyway.

I saw my mom today. We had a nice family get together (less than 9 of us), outside. None of us feel ill or have been around ill people. We didn't hug each other and maintained a reasonable distance.

At this point the chances of Mom getting sick with the Coronavirus from a visit like this is pretty much slim to none. We broke no rules, we used proper caution and we had fun, too.

What area do you think is weeks past the peak? If you look at actual data for DMV... we are still at the peak. More of a plateau, per se

Thank you! DMV has some of the highest rates and not yet declining! Why do people think they're safer NOW, with tens of thousands of cases in the area, than in late March, when there were hundreds?

And "none of us feel ill or have been around ill people." FFS. When they test closed groups (like cruise ships), the MAJORITY of COVID carriers are asymptomatic.

You understand that those of us who spent time with our moms were not taking them onto crowded cruise ships. Even those who took their moms out for a Mother's Day brunch or dinner were not going into crowded restaurants. The restaurants that are open all have strict limits in place to keep their customers as safe as is humanly possible.

Most of us who saw our parents did so from outside and from a good distance apart - no hugging, just visiting. If you truly think that this was in anyway dangerous then you need to get treatment for your major anxiety disorder. The sooner the better.

Oh, honey, bless your heart! You don't seem to understand that the point of mentioning the cruise ship was not to compare the risk of *contracting* COVID (obviously having lunch with your mom is not like being on a cruise ship??) but to note that when case studies of *traceable infection clusters*-- such as those on cruise ships, at condensed, military ships, etc.-- have been done, half or more of those infected were a asymptomatic.

I'll walk you through this slowly, since you seem to need treatment for your reading comprehension disorder (the sooner, the better). See, studying a cruise ship with an outbreak is a great way to get a handle on how and to whom the virus is transmitted, because it is "closed." We know who was exposed. We have NO IDEA how many cases there actually are or were in the US, not what percentage are asymptomatic, because we can test all 400 or 4000 people on a ship, but not almost 400 million. The vast majority of people in the US are not getting tested unless they are having symptoms or know they have been exposed to a confirmed case.

My original comment was clearly addressing the wrongheaded statement "none of us are ill or have been around ill people." In fact, I quoted that line right before mentioning the cruise ship stats. It was my way of-- stay with me now!-- pointing out the very well-known fact that you don't have to be ill in order to spread the virus. In fact, that's one of the very things that makes it so communicable.

I hope that clears things up for you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thing has gotten so extremely out of hand. We are weeks past the peak and most of our areas never saw that many people getting seriously sick anyway.

I saw my mom today. We had a nice family get together (less than 9 of us), outside. None of us feel ill or have been around ill people. We didn't hug each other and maintained a reasonable distance.

At this point the chances of Mom getting sick with the Coronavirus from a visit like this is pretty much slim to none. We broke no rules, we used proper caution and we had fun, too.

What area do you think is weeks past the peak? If you look at actual data for DMV... we are still at the peak. More of a plateau, per se

Thank you! DMV has some of the highest rates and not yet declining! Why do people think they're safer NOW, with tens of thousands of cases in the area, than in late March, when there were hundreds?

And "none of us feel ill or have been around ill people." FFS. When they test closed groups (like cruise ships), the MAJORITY of COVID carriers are asymptomatic.

You understand that those of us who spent time with our moms were not taking them onto crowded cruise ships. Even those who took their moms out for a Mother's Day brunch or dinner were not going into crowded restaurants. The restaurants that are open all have strict limits in place to keep their customers as safe as is humanly possible.

Most of us who saw our parents did so from outside and from a good distance apart - no hugging, just visiting. If you truly think that this was in anyway dangerous then you need to get treatment for your major anxiety disorder. The sooner the better.

Oh, honey, bless your heart! You don't seem to understand that the point of mentioning the cruise ship was not to compare the risk of *contracting* COVID (obviously having lunch with your mom is not like being on a cruise ship??) but to note that when case studies of *traceable infection clusters*-- such as those on cruise ships, at condensed, military ships, etc.-- have been done, half or more of those infected were a asymptomatic.

I'll walk you through this slowly, since you seem to need treatment for your reading comprehension disorder (the sooner, the better). See, studying a cruise ship with an outbreak is a great way to get a handle on how and to whom the virus is transmitted, because it is "closed." We know who was exposed. We have NO IDEA how many cases there actually are or were in the US, not what percentage are asymptomatic, because we can test all 400 or 4000 people on a ship, but not almost 400 million. The vast majority of people in the US are not getting tested unless they are having symptoms or know they have been exposed to a confirmed case.

My original comment was clearly addressing the wrongheaded statement "none of us are ill or have been around ill people." In fact, I quoted that line right before mentioning the cruise ship stats. It was my way of-- stay with me now!-- pointing out the very well-known fact that you don't have to be ill in order to spread the virus. In fact, that's one of the very things that makes it so communicable.

I hope that clears things up for you!

Ugh, what a bitch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are any of the people saying they would NEVER do this getting takeout? Or any type of curbside pickup? Because if you are, you must understand that that is more risky than what some people are saying they are doing - standing 10 feet away, chatting, leaving a bag of something to eat later.

I am very cautious and get anxious about this more than most, but there is a level of activity that is still very safe - and we should be encouraging that so that people don't go insane.

No, my family is not doing takeout or curbside, though we have had a couple grocery deliveries. We are eating from our pantry and garden, and have not been to a store in over a month. We have been very cautious. Personally I think it would be fine to see ILs because we've been so cautious -- more cautious than they are! -- but DH doesn't want to risk their health. And I'm not exactly pining to see ILs, so we don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thing has gotten so extremely out of hand. We are weeks past the peak and most of our areas never saw that many people getting seriously sick anyway.

I saw my mom today. We had a nice family get together (less than 9 of us), outside. None of us feel ill or have been around ill people. We didn't hug each other and maintained a reasonable distance.

At this point the chances of Mom getting sick with the Coronavirus from a visit like this is pretty much slim to none. We broke no rules, we used proper caution and we had fun, too.

What area do you think is weeks past the peak? If you look at actual data for DMV... we are still at the peak. More of a plateau, per se

Thank you! DMV has some of the highest rates and not yet declining! Why do people think they're safer NOW, with tens of thousands of cases in the area, than in late March, when there were hundreds?

And "none of us feel ill or have been around ill people." FFS. When they test closed groups (like cruise ships), the MAJORITY of COVID carriers are asymptomatic.

You understand that those of us who spent time with our moms were not taking them onto crowded cruise ships. Even those who took their moms out for a Mother's Day brunch or dinner were not going into crowded restaurants. The restaurants that are open all have strict limits in place to keep their customers as safe as is humanly possible.

Most of us who saw our parents did so from outside and from a good distance apart - no hugging, just visiting. If you truly think that this was in anyway dangerous then you need to get treatment for your major anxiety disorder. The sooner the better.

Oh, honey, bless your heart! You don't seem to understand that the point of mentioning the cruise ship was not to compare the risk of *contracting* COVID (obviously having lunch with your mom is not like being on a cruise ship??) but to note that when case studies of *traceable infection clusters*-- such as those on cruise ships, at condensed, military ships, etc.-- have been done, half or more of those infected were a asymptomatic.

I'll walk you through this slowly, since you seem to need treatment for your reading comprehension disorder (the sooner, the better). See, studying a cruise ship with an outbreak is a great way to get a handle on how and to whom the virus is transmitted, because it is "closed." We know who was exposed. We have NO IDEA how many cases there actually are or were in the US, not what percentage are asymptomatic, because we can test all 400 or 4000 people on a ship, but not almost 400 million. The vast majority of people in the US are not getting tested unless they are having symptoms or know they have been exposed to a confirmed case.

My original comment was clearly addressing the wrongheaded statement "none of us are ill or have been around ill people." In fact, I quoted that line right before mentioning the cruise ship stats. It was my way of-- stay with me now!-- pointing out the very well-known fact that you don't have to be ill in order to spread the virus. In fact, that's one of the very things that makes it so communicable.

I hope that clears things up for you!

I am sorry, it appears as though you are unable to discern between the very different environments of a cruise ship and sitting outside in the fresh air and sunshine, 6+ feet apart.

You live in a scary world where just *seeing* another human being walking across the street means that you are in tremendous peril!!!!!! But you are not in peril from the guy way across the street. And you are not in peril when you talk to another person outside from 6+ feet away.

Hope that makes you less afraid!!