Everyone is taking a pay cut. Why not the Feds??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t get to enjoy the upside when things are good.

Omg THIS.

I’m not sold on the idea of lowering pay but don’t play the martyr card here.. There are many perks: job security, early retirement and loads more vacation than most private jobs.

Job security: not if you cut pay
Early retirement: Uh, in what WORLD? Only if you carry a firearm (aka law enforcement or military)
Loads more vacation: only compared to people working minimum wage. Fed leave policies are paltry compared to most leading corporations.

This, I'm the pp whose husband left for more $$$$. He also has more leave and better benefits now. And early retirement is a real option because their retirement/investments/pay is so much better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t get to enjoy the upside when things are good.

Omg THIS.

I’m not sold on the idea of lowering pay but don’t play the martyr card here.. There are many perks: job security, early retirement and loads more vacation than most private jobs.

Yes. Those perks are in lieu of higher pay. Some of us choose flexible hours, leave, pension, and job security instead of more money. Now OP wants to come along and complain because she’s jelly.

[NASAguy]

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Anonymous wrote:You mean the pay cut we all took to work for the federal government, every paycheck?

-A fed who didn't qualify for the stimulus

"Work" and "Federal government job" don't go together in the true sense.

Oh really? You've never been to a NASA center, have you? We do real work, lots of it. Billions of dollars worth of it.

I have a friend who is a microbiologist who works for the FDA. Everytime there is an outbreak of salmonella or e coli or any other food born contamination, they work day and night to determine the source, restrict the contamination, identify food recalls, alert the public, etc.

I have another friend who works in federal law enforcement. They put their lives on the line for US citizens.

I have another friend who works for the IRS and is working day and night, extra hours to make sure that those stimulus checks get out to people in a timely manner even when POTUS internally requested that his name be put on the checks, delaying the entire timeline for processing checks to adapt the process to include that. Do you know how much extra time that added?

You have no idea how much work is done by the federal government. You just want to make baseless accusations. You're like a bigot who only uses stereotypes to enforce your bigotry. Have you ever worked in a federal agency and seen what goes on where the public doesn't see it? Probably not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband left the federal government 6 months ago and now makes nearly 300k more than he did in his govie job. You want to cut govie pay further? Okay.

Yes, if the federal government lowers pay, my DH will finally relent and apply to one of those jobs recruiting firms send him every week. He could at least double his fed salary.

[Anonymous]

Yep, my wife doubled her pay when she left UST. And works fewer hours...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband left the federal government 6 months ago and now makes nearly 300k more than he did in his govie job. You want to cut govie pay further? Okay.

Yes, if the federal government lowers pay, my DH will finally relent and apply to one of those jobs recruiting firms send him every week. He could at least double his fed salary.

I'm already there. I decided that there really won't be stability in the future. Our pension isn't that great and in the future everyone will have our healthcare. There is no point. I'm just losing money right now and it's not like anyone appreciates what we do.

[Anonymous]

NASAguy wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You mean the pay cut we all took to work for the federal government, every paycheck?

-A fed who didn't qualify for the stimulus

"Work" and "Federal government job" don't go together in the true sense.

Oh really? You've never been to a NASA center, have you? We do real work, lots of it. Billions of dollars worth of it.

I have a friend who is a microbiologist who works for the FDA. Everytime there is an outbreak of salmonella or e coli or any other food born contamination, they work day and night to determine the source, restrict the contamination, identify food recalls, alert the public, etc.

I have another friend who works in federal law enforcement. They put their lives on the line for US citizens.

I have another friend who works for the IRS and is working day and night, extra hours to make sure that those stimulus checks get out to people in a timely manner even when POTUS internally requested that his name be put on the checks, delaying the entire timeline for processing checks to adapt the process to include that. Do you know how much extra time that added?

You have no idea how much work is done by the federal government. You just want to make baseless accusations. You're like a bigot who only uses stereotypes to enforce your bigotry. Have you ever worked in a federal agency and seen what goes on where the public doesn't see it? Probably not.

+1. PP, I'll agree with you that there's some dead weight in the government. However, there was dead weight in every company I ever worked at in the private sector; no more and no less than in the government in my experience. By and large the people I've worked with in the government are insanely dedicated and tirelessly passionate about their agency mission. While there's some nice job security, nobody becomes a civil servant for the paycheck. And don't forget that it's Congress (usually), not bureaucrats who are responsible for the red tape and byzantine regulations that us civil servants have to carry out and work under. If you want stuff to move quicker and easier, write your Congressman.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of people taking cuts, yes, but a lot of people who aren’t beyond feds. For example, I can’t think of anyone I know who isn’t working and being paid as normal (all non feds in a wide variety professions).And only a couple are essential type workers. So not sure why you are picking on feds, except that it is trendy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t get to enjoy the upside when things are good.

Omg THIS.

I’m not sold on the idea of lowering pay but don’t play the martyr card here.. There are many perks: job security, early retirement and loads more vacation than most private jobs.

Job security: not if you cut pay
Early retirement: Uh, in what WORLD? Only if you carry a firearm (aka law enforcement or military)
Loads more vacation: only compared to people working minimum wage. Fed leave policies are paltry compared to most leading corporations.

You are wrong about leave. Feds have better leave options than the vast majority of private sector workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t get to enjoy the upside when things are good.

Omg THIS.

I’m not sold on the idea of lowering pay but don’t play the martyr card here.. There are many perks: job security, early retirement and loads more vacation than most private jobs.

Job security: not if you cut pay
Early retirement: Uh, in what WORLD? Only if you carry a firearm (aka law enforcement or military)
Loads more vacation: only compared to people working minimum wage. Fed leave policies are paltry compared to most leading corporations.

You are wrong about leave. Feds have better leave options than the vast majority of private sector workers.

In some ways we have leave, but no one else I know has to use 15 minutes of vacation time to cover a metro delay.

[Anonymous]

14% of the federal workforce works in the DC metro region, most federal employees work all around the world and the average annual compensation for a fed is $75k. I know that people like to hate on the bureaucrats in Washington but most bureaucrats aren't in Washington, they're at SSA or IRS field office service centers, serving as doctors and nurses in VA hospitals, or guiding people through our national parks. Do they deserve a pay cut?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people taking cuts, yes, but a lot of people who aren’t beyond feds. For example, I can’t think of anyone I know who isn’t working and being paid as normal (all non feds in a wide variety professions).And only a couple are essential type workers. So not sure why you are picking on feds, except that it is trendy.

+1

[Anonymous]

My agency is doing a ton of work on skeletal staffing, and you want us to take a pay cut on top of that?

[Anonymous]

I'd love to see this happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd love to see this happen.

Weirdo.