Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?

[Anonymous]

If he gets THAT angry over being in a seat that doesn't recline when the seat in front of him does, then he should pay more to at least be able to select his seat. There's a reason that last row is the cheapest row on the plane.

[Anonymous]

This whole issue will be moot in a few short years.

Discount airlines already have seats that do not recline.

Get used to it - it's the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Poster upthread — he was TAPPING in the seat, not banging on it. Passive-aggressive, yes. Violent? No.
Seat recliner seems like a jerk.

I hate when someone reclines in front of me but I consider that’s just my bad luck. Maybe the person slept horribly at the hotel and is dire need of sleep. It’s also not her responsibility to politely ask him to stop doing something childish. He is the jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.

YOu should have purchased a seat for your child, as I have done many times on international flights.

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And PP put her baby in potential danger

But she was doing something that was allowed under the rules, right? Isn’t that all that matters? That’s the standard you are applying to the a**hole recliner.

I'm "allowed" to hog the arm rest, get up and climb over you 20 times to go to stretch my legs.....I'm also "allowed" to yell across the aisle to my friend. But I don't do that because it is very, very rude behavior.[/quote]

As is reclining.

Reclining is not so rude. I've been reclined upon ...and I've reclined ... and I'll keep reclining.

eh, it depends. If the person behind you has long legs, a baby on their lap or is simply very obese and you would be reclining ONTO them, then you either recline just a little bit or don't recline at all. If you want to be 100% certain that you can recline fully, have someone you know book the seat behind you.

Part of riding on public transportation means that you will be dealing with all shapes, sizes and varieties of people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole issue will be moot in a few short years.

Discount airlines already have seats that do not recline.

Get used to it - it's the future.

+1. Just like smoking, the irritant of reclining seats will inevitably go away, too. And it can’t happen fast enough.

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Anonymous wrote:After reading the article about this, I have a couple thoughts:

> He asked her to put her seat up during the meal so he could eat ... so she did, and only reclined after he was done eating.
> If he had said "sorry to bother you again, but I really can't sit without the reclined seat hitting my knees," I suspect she would have put it up again.

The key to his first request was that it wasn't "I don't think you should ever recline," but rather "I'd like to eat the meal."

> When she alerted the stewardess about the seat punching, the stewardess rolled her eyes and offered HIM a complimentary rum (yeah that'll make him behave better ... ), and gave HER a passenger disturbance notice, and threatened to have her escorted off the plane.

That is just plain weird. Either the stewardess is puncher-sympathetic (inexplicably) or there is more to the story? Why would a stewardess give a passenger a "disturbance notice" when the guy behind her is punching? If it all went down as the woman describes, that's the real issue with the airline.

I'm pro-recline. I recline when I'm tired so my head doesn't flop forward ... and when the person in front of me reclines into my lap, I figure that's the breaks and why my seat was so cheap. I'm 6' tall and usually just recline my seat in response ... and when I'm stuck by the bathroom at the back (like this guy was), I make a mental note NOT to choose middle seats over back seats in the future.

A flight from New Orleans to Charlotte is 2 hours. 2 hours. You can go without reclining. I really don't care if you "have sciatica" or whatever. I fly internationally several times a year and never recline. Miraculously, I'm still alive.

[Anonymous]

She is a middle aged woman and the world just expects her to be pleasant and not cause problems, that’s why the FA was nicer to the Crazy Man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.

How? The recline is only an inch or two at most. There's really no "middle ground."

[Anonymous]

I can’t believe there was a meal in a two hour regional jet flight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.

No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.

No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.

So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?

[Anonymous]

Lack of empathy on both sides. Too many assholes in the world. Just look at our fearless leaders rallies!

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Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.

No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.

So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?

There's nothing asshole about using a provided feature. Nothing. If it's too cramped, it's not the passenger's problem. If you don't like that a seat can recline, don't fly or pay more. If the seats aren't meant to recline, then why provide them? So silly. As mentioned, I don't begrudge people who recline. They are perfectly entitled to do so. Why is that rude? It's not their fault the damn aircraft is so cramped.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.

No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.

So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?

There's nothing asshole about using a provided feature. Nothing. If it's too cramped, it's not the passenger's problem. If you don't like that a seat can recline, don't fly or pay more. If the seats aren't meant to recline, then why provide them? So silly. As mentioned, I don't begrudge people who recline. They are perfectly entitled to do so. Why is that rude? It's not their fault the damn aircraft is so cramped.

Sounds like you have no sense of personal responsibility. “The airline made me do it!” Shrugs shoulders.

[Anonymous]

Saw online she wants him criminally charged. He should get a year and a day for assault. Violence on an aircraft is a solid "no."