UMD vs UVA

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Anonymous wrote:College is what you make of it. There are some really smart kids at both schools pursuing cs and engineering. I am sure there are some average students at both schools as well. UVA is considered elite for whatever reason that doesn’t mean that umd is not a good school. For state schools both are good options depending on where you live. Not everyone wants to pay oos tuition.

Yes, so true!

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

Hey folks, this kid is a troll. Don't play with them.

Yes, I am a 57 year old kid. So, tell me kid, like what??

Business -- UVA 13 UMD 48
Education -- UVA 16 UMD 33
Engineering -- UVA 40 UMD 22
Law -- UVA 9 UMD 49
Medicine --UVA 26 UMD31
Nursing -- UVA 20 UMD 13
Biology -- UVA 46 UMD 62
Chemistry -- UVA 48 UMD 41
Computer Science -- UVA 30 UMD 16
Math -- UVA 47 UMD 22
Physics -- UVA 44 UMD 14
Economics -- UVA 29 UMD 21
English --UVA 6 UMD 30
History -- UVA 18 UMD 27
Political Science -- UVA 37 UMD 29
Psychology -- UVA 17 UMD 39
Sociology -- UVA 32 UMD 24

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UMD research funding- $548M excluding the medical school, #43, Including the medical school $969M, #14, just ahead of MIT and Yale.

UVA research funding- $469M, #51, including the medical school.

Which is why UMD is much better known internationally and ranks much higher in world rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

Hey folks, this kid is a troll. Don't play with them.

Yes, I am a 57 year old kid. So, tell me kid, like what??

Business -- UVA 13 UMD 48
Education -- UVA 16 UMD 33
Engineering -- UVA 40 UMD 22
Law -- UVA 9 UMD 49
Medicine --UVA 26 UMD31
Nursing -- UVA 20 UMD 13
Biology -- UVA 46 UMD 62
Chemistry -- UVA 48 [b]UMD 41
Computer Science -- UVA 30 UMD 16
Math -- UVA 47 UMD 22
Physics -- UVA 44 UMD 14
Economics -- UVA 29 UMD 21
English --UVA 6 UMD 30
History -- UVA 18 UMD 27
Political Science -- UVA 37 UMD 29
Psychology -- UVA 17 UMD 39
Sociology -- UVA 32 UMD 24

Interesting. I am not a big fan of rankings (because unless you understand and agree with ranking methodology, it means nothing) but for the sake of argument let's assume your rankings are "correct."

Law, Medicine, and Nursing are UMD-Baltimore. Not directly associated with UMDCP.

So, out of 14 fields, UMD is ranked higher in 8 fields, and UVa is ranked higher in 6. Is that your point?

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

Hey folks, this kid is a troll. Don't play with them.

Yes, I am a 57 year old kid. So, tell me kid, like what??

Business -- UVA 13 UMD 48
Education -- UVA 16 UMD 33
Engineering -- UVA 40 UMD 22
Law -- UVA 9 UMD 49
Medicine --UVA 26 UMD31
Nursing -- UVA 20 UMD 13
Biology -- UVA 46 UMD 62
Chemistry -- UVA 48 [b]UMD 41
Computer Science -- UVA 30 UMD 16
Math -- UVA 47 UMD 22
Physics -- UVA 44 UMD 14
Economics -- UVA 29 UMD 21
English --UVA 6 UMD 30
History -- UVA 18 UMD 27
Political Science -- UVA 37 UMD 29
Psychology -- UVA 17 UMD 39
Sociology -- UVA 32 UMD 24

Interesting. I am not a big fan of rankings (because unless you understand and agree with ranking methodology, it means nothing) but for the sake of argument let's assume your rankings are "correct."

Law, Medicine, and Nursing are UMD-Baltimore. Not directly associated with UMDCP.

So, out of 14 fields, UMD is ranked higher in 8 fields, and UVa is ranked higher in 6. Is that your point?

I'm also not a huge fan of rankings, but it seems to be the only language that the UVA boosters understand. I actually think that UVA is an excellent school, it is just not the only excellent school. My overall point here would be that in general the two have roughly equivalent academic offerings, each having some stronger areas.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

Hey folks, this kid is a troll. Don't play with them.

Yes, I am a 57 year old kid. So, tell me kid, like what??

Business -- UVA 13 UMD 48
Education -- UVA 16 UMD 33
Engineering -- UVA 40 UMD 22
Law -- UVA 9 UMD 49
Medicine --UVA 26 UMD31
Nursing -- UVA 20 UMD 13
Biology -- UVA 46 UMD 62
Chemistry -- UVA 48 [b]UMD 41
Computer Science -- UVA 30 UMD 16
Math -- UVA 47 UMD 22
Physics -- UVA 44 UMD 14
Economics -- UVA 29 UMD 21
English --UVA 6 UMD 30
History -- UVA 18 UMD 27
Political Science -- UVA 37 UMD 29
Psychology -- UVA 17 UMD 39
Sociology -- UVA 32 UMD 24

Interesting. I am not a big fan of rankings (because unless you understand and agree with ranking methodology, it means nothing) but for the sake of argument let's assume your rankings are "correct."

Law, Medicine, and Nursing are UMD-Baltimore. Not directly associated with UMDCP.

So, out of 14 fields, UMD is ranked higher in 8 fields, and UVa is ranked higher in 6. Is that your point?

I'm also not a huge fan of rankings, but it seems to be the only language that the UVA boosters understand. I actually think that UVA is an excellent school, it is just not the only excellent school. My overall point here would be that in general the two have roughly equivalent academic offerings, each having some stronger areas.

I'd agree with both of those points.

[Anonymous]

Multiple things can be simultaneously true. Maryland can be a stronger research university (focus on R&D and graduate programs) in some areas and UVA can be more desirable as an undergraduate institution.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

Hey folks, this kid is a troll. Don't play with them.

Yes, I am a 57 year old kid. So, tell me kid, like what??

Business -- UVA 13 UMD 48
Education -- UVA 16 UMD 33
Engineering -- UVA 40 UMD 22
Law -- UVA 9 UMD 49
Medicine --UVA 26 UMD31
Nursing -- UVA 20 UMD 13
Biology -- UVA 46 UMD 62
Chemistry -- UVA 48 [b]UMD 41
Computer Science -- UVA 30 UMD 16
Math -- UVA 47 UMD 22
Physics -- UVA 44 UMD 14
Economics -- UVA 29 UMD 21
English --UVA 6 UMD 30
History -- UVA 18 UMD 27
Political Science -- UVA 37 UMD 29
Psychology -- UVA 17 UMD 39
Sociology -- UVA 32 UMD 24

Interesting. I am not a big fan of rankings (because unless you understand and agree with ranking methodology, it means nothing) but for the sake of argument let's assume your rankings are "correct."

Law, Medicine, and Nursing are UMD-Baltimore. Not directly associated with UMDCP.

So, out of 14 fields, UMD is ranked higher in 8 fields, and UVa is ranked higher in 6. Is that your point?

I'm also not a huge fan of rankings, but it seems to be the only language that the UVA boosters understand. I actually think that UVA is an excellent school, it is just not the only excellent school. My overall point here would be that in general the two have roughly equivalent academic offerings, each having some stronger areas.

+1. What's up with that?

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Anonymous wrote:Fight to make UVA bigger. The reason so many people like it is that it's a great state school without tens of thousands of people. Virginia has two "big state u" options in VT and JMU.

JMU and UVA are about the same size and both technically have "tens of thousands" with enrollments over 20K. VCU and George Mason have much larger student populations than JMU or UVA. William & Mary is the smaller one, with about 8K students.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

Hey folks, this kid is a troll. Don't play with them.

Yes, I am a 57 year old kid. So, tell me kid, like what??

Business -- UVA 13 UMD 48
Education -- UVA 16 UMD 33
Engineering -- UVA 40 UMD 22
Law -- UVA 9 UMD 49
Medicine --UVA 26 UMD31
Nursing -- UVA 20 UMD 13
Biology -- UVA 46 UMD 62
Chemistry -- UVA 48 [b]UMD 41
Computer Science -- UVA 30 UMD 16
Math -- UVA 47 UMD 22
Physics -- UVA 44 UMD 14
Economics -- UVA 29 UMD 21
English --UVA 6 UMD 30
History -- UVA 18 UMD 27
Political Science -- UVA 37 UMD 29
Psychology -- UVA 17 UMD 39
Sociology -- UVA 32 UMD 24

Interesting. I am not a big fan of rankings (because unless you understand and agree with ranking methodology, it means nothing) but for the sake of argument let's assume your rankings are "correct."

Law, Medicine, and Nursing are UMD-Baltimore. Not directly associated with UMDCP.

So, out of 14 fields, UMD is ranked higher in 8 fields, and UVa is ranked higher in 6. Is that your point?

I'm also not a huge fan of rankings, but it seems to be the only language that the UVA boosters understand. I actually think that UVA is an excellent school, it is just not the only excellent school. My overall point here would be that in general the two have roughly equivalent academic offerings, each having some stronger areas.

I'm a UVA grad; from an academic standpoint I don't see much to separate the two. I'd give a slight edge to UMD for STEM related fields and UVA for liberal arts related fields, but both are excellent. I do think that UVA has a much nicer campus and surrounding area though.

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Anonymous wrote:UMD is an EXCELLENT school and only getting better. Many kids now get rejected from UMD in Montgomery County. That said, College Park is a pretty seedy area. There is quite a bit of crime and is not what I would call a college town. It’s too bad the University doesn’t try to do more to clean up the town and make it more desirable.

Is it an excellent school, or a good large state school with a few excellent programs? It's hard to call it EXCELLENT when it's not even in the Top 20 Public schools.

It isn't hard for me. I don't put much stock in those rankings. I honestly believe people who live in Maryland are chumps for sending their kids to schools like Michigan and Wisconsin when their kids can get just as good if not better educations at an in-state tuition price.

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Anonymous wrote:UMD is an EXCELLENT school and only getting better. Many kids now get rejected from UMD in Montgomery County. That said, College Park is a pretty seedy area. There is quite a bit of crime and is not what I would call a college town. It’s too bad the University doesn’t try to do more to clean up the town and make it more desirable.

Is it an excellent school, or a good large state school with a few excellent programs? It's hard to call it EXCELLENT when it's not even in the Top 20 Public schools.

It isn't hard for me. I don't put much stock in those rankings. I honestly believe people who live in Maryland are chumps for sending their kids to schools like Michigan and Wisconsin when their kids can get just as good if not better educations at an in-state tuition price.

+1 I agree. Our son went to umd instead of Michigan Or Georgia Tech. Even though we could afford oos tuition we couldn’t see how either Michigan or Georgia Tech could be worth 3 or 2x times the tuition. Son is happy at umd honors college doing comp science

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Anonymous wrote:UMD is an EXCELLENT school and only getting better. Many kids now get rejected from UMD in Montgomery County. That said, College Park is a pretty seedy area. There is quite a bit of crime and is not what I would call a college town. It’s too bad the University doesn’t try to do more to clean up the town and make it more desirable.

Is it an excellent school, or a good large state school with a few excellent programs? It's hard to call it EXCELLENT when it's not even in the Top 20 Public schools.

It isn't hard for me. I don't put much stock in those rankings. I honestly believe people who live in Maryland are chumps for sending their kids to schools like Michigan and Wisconsin when their kids can get just as good if not better educations at an in-state tuition price.

100% agree. MCPS parent.

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Anonymous wrote:UMD is an EXCELLENT school and only getting better. Many kids now get rejected from UMD in Montgomery County. That said, College Park is a pretty seedy area. There is quite a bit of crime and is not what I would call a college town. It’s too bad the University doesn’t try to do more to clean up the town and make it more desirable.

Is it an excellent school, or a good large state school with a few excellent programs? It's hard to call it EXCELLENT when it's not even in the Top 20 Public schools.

It isn't hard for me. I don't put much stock in those rankings. I honestly believe people who live in Maryland are chumps for sending their kids to schools like Michigan and Wisconsin when their kids can get just as good if not better educations at an in-state tuition price.

+1 I agree. Our son went to umd instead of Michigan Or Georgia Tech. Even though we could afford oos tuition we couldn’t see how either Michigan or Georgia Tech could be worth 3 or 2x times the tuition. Son is happy at umd honors college doing comp science

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Anonymous wrote:You can do very well coming out of UMD but it seems best suited for kids who want to stay local. Nothing wrong in that. UVA seems to be better known nationally and internationally. Sort of like Michigan, UCLA, Berkeley, Wisconsin. Everyone knows these schools even though UMD probably fits in somewhere in between. Most people don’t pay attention to exact rankings - just general reputation. UMD is a good school although I have to admit that I find the campus and town pretty depressing. I think professors for UMD live all over the region rather than close to the school. I know 2 UMD professors and they both live in DC

UVA is barely known nationally and is not known at all internationally.
UMD is better known internationally.