UMD vs UVA

[Anonymous]

UMD is an EXCELLENT school and only getting better. Many kids now get rejected from UMD in Montgomery County. That said, College Park is a pretty seedy area. There is quite a bit of crime and is not what I would call a college town. It’s too bad the University doesn’t try to do more to clean up the town and make it more desirable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UMD is an EXCELLENT school and only getting better. Many kids now get rejected from UMD in Montgomery County. That said, College Park is a pretty seedy area. There is quite a bit of crime and is not what I would call a college town. It’s too bad the University doesn’t try to do more to clean up the town and make it more desirable.

Is it an excellent school, or a good large state school with a few excellent programs? It's hard to call it EXCELLENT when it's not even in the Top 20 Public schools.

[Anonymous]

How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

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Anonymous wrote:UMD admissions rate: 44.3% (they don't break it down by residents/OOS)
UVA admissions rate: 36% residents, 19% non-residents

From what I'm reading, UMD can't have more than 1/3 non-residents by law and UVA agrees to the same percentage, but there isn't actually a law about it in Virginia.

UMD is double the size if UVA

The state of Maryland has ~twice as many HS grads than VA.

Virginia has 2.5M people more than Maryland. That doesn't seem likely.

Sorry I wrote that backwards. Yes Virginia has twice as many high school students than Maryland. They also have half as many spots at UVA than Maryland has. That’s why it seems harder to get in... twice as many kids are applying to half as many spots it’s basic math.

But any student that’s going to Virginia up for engineering over Maryland is simply doing it to get away from their parents.

One other factor is that Virginia's roster of state schools after the flagship is robust, and Maryland's is . . . not.

Compare William and Mary, Va. Tech, JMU, and VCU with Towson, Bowie State, Coppin State, UMBC, Salisbury, St. Mary's - there are a lot more palatable alternatives for top students in VA.

MD has 1/2 as many HS students why would they need so many colleges.

UMD is twice the size of UVA, UMBC is equal to VA Tech, JMU and Towson are equal.... After that are really going to argue who has better schools....

The only thing VA has that MD does not have is W&M but very few kids even want to attend W&M... MD needs to work on St. Mary's

Are you really going to argue that George Mason is better than Salisbury...

What VA residents need to fight for in VA is to grow UVA to be bigger. It is inadequate to educate VA residents. It's 1/2 the size of MD (even though MD has 1/2 as many residents), 1/4 the size of Penn State, 1/2 the size of Mchigan.

UVA cares more about USNews ranking than their residents,

This is simply not true. UMD is comparable to VT. Both are large research schools. Both are land grant schools with agriculture departments. They even share a vet school. UMBC is similar to GMU. Up and coming with suburban campus. Maryland doesn’t have premium state colleges like UVa or W&M. Instead it has an elite private college, namely Johns Hopkins. This is typical for northeastern states, where I don’t find any premium state college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

[Anonymous]

I am not sure anyone would compare the two. UVa is a completely different kind of school. VA has a completely different set of college options.

[Anonymous]

I was curious and googled it. UVA Engineering was founded in 1836 and was the 4th university to have an engineering school (after West Point, Norwich, and RPI). I guess it's nonexistent if you are ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was curious and googled it. UVA Engineering was founded in 1836 and was the 4th university to have an engineering school (after West Point, Norwich, and RPI). I guess it's nonexistent if you are ignorant.

So, we are measuring the quality of school based on history?

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Anonymous wrote:I was curious and googled it. UVA Engineering was founded in 1836 and was the 4th university to have an engineering school (after West Point, Norwich, and RPI). I guess it's nonexistent if you are ignorant.

So, we are measuring the quality of school based on history?

That wasn't the point and you know it. It was someone (you) saying UVA STEM was nonexistent when it's been around since before UMD was even a thought.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

Hey folks, this kid is a troll. Don't play with them.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you compare Uva and UMD? UVa basically has no STEM program. For UMD, engineering and CS programs are top notch. UVa, basically, nonexistent.

Nonexistent?

For undergrad, UMD engineering is ranked #25, tied with Minnesota. UVA is ranked #39, tied with Notre Dame, Brown and WashU. How can you compare UMD and Brown??? Oh right.

For CS, UMD is #16. UVA is #30, tied with UChicago, Northwestern and NYU.

Sure, UMD engineering and CS are strong. But to say UVA is nonexistent demonstrates some serious ignorance. But to be expected from insecure UMD boosters.

Don't worry, UMD is a fine, big state school with a few strong programs. UVA is an elite well-rounded school with many strong programs.

Like WHAT?

Hey folks, this kid is a troll. Don't play with them.

Yes, I am a 57 year old kid. So, tell me kid, like what??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was curious and googled it. UVA Engineering was founded in 1836 and was the 4th university to have an engineering school (after West Point, Norwich, and RPI). I guess it's nonexistent if you are ignorant.

So, we are measuring the quality of school based on history?

That wasn't the point and you know it. It was someone (you) saying UVA STEM was nonexistent when it's been around since before UMD was even a thought.

No, I don't. Tell me what was the point of mentioning Uva engineering was founded in 1836?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was curious and googled it. UVA Engineering was founded in 1836 and was the 4th university to have an engineering school (after West Point, Norwich, and RPI). I guess it's nonexistent if you are ignorant.

What an idiotic comment.....what does its age have to do with quality?

[Anonymous]

College is what you make of it. There are some really smart kids at both schools pursuing cs and engineering. I am sure there are some average students at both schools as well. UVA is considered elite for whatever reason that doesn’t mean that umd is not a good school. For state schools both are good options depending on where you live. Not everyone wants to pay oos tuition.