S/O Why do more females go to college than males nationally?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I posted on the other thread. Actual studies on this conclude the achievement gap across the education spectrum is due to women having better executive function skills and their pre-frontal cortex developing earlier.

Which leads to... failure to launch, video game addiction, substance abuse, etc. and just generally not having their shit together. In non-STEM fields there is now affirmative action for white men. They are getting in under lower standards to try to balance classes. And classes are still unbalanced. Look at the WM admissions numbers.

Teacher and mother of a teen boy here. Girls “do school” better than boys on average and it is due to their superior executive function skills. I am not as “smart” as my teen son but I did MUCH better in school. Why? His EF skills are years behind a girl’s at this point. I’m sure moms of both sexes can understand. My son and my make students have trouble remembering to hand in completed work. They do it and either don’t physically hand it in or forget to turn it in on Google Classroom. That negatively affects their grade. Girls are better at everything school related- doing the work, handing it in on time, class discussions, being on top of their assignments etc.

I just spent several minutes on google, and did not find any overwhelming evidence that girls develop executive functioning skills substantially (or at all) earlier than boys. I did find one interesting study out of Pakistan, where, as the researchers expected, they found boys had better executive functioning skills than girls, which in the discussion they attributed partly to the higher expectations on them.

But if you have research to share, that would be great.

Here are some data and references for you:

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e5a7/c2f4219ddcec5e693d2d848f6330bad57d73.pdf

"Two-thirds of students identified with LD are male (66 percent) while overall public school enrollment is almost evenly split between males (51 percent) and females (49 percent). This overrepresentation of boys occurs across different racial and ethnic groups."

https://www.ncld.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2014-State-of-LD.pdf

https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/learning-disabilities/help-information/learning-disability-statistics-/187687

https://www.understood.org/en/learning-attention-issues/getting-started/what-you-need-to-know/do-boys-have-learning-and-attention-issues-more-often-than-girls

That data's about children with learning disabilities. The teachers above didn't say their children with learning disabilities had slower executive function development than children without learning disabilities. They said their boys had slower executive function development than their girls. The research I've seen shows that girls and boys with ADHD have similar (lagging) executive function development, and similar deficits compared to typically developing children. But I have yet to see research that shows that typical boys lag in executive function development compared to typical girls.

I'm interested in that research, the research that supports the teachers contentions that girls do better in school in part because of their superior executive function.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Female privilege of course.

Notice there is no push to address the gender gap in areas where women dominate (teaching, nursing); and no push to address the gender gap in areas where men dominate but the job is seen as "dirty" (construction work, electrician) even though those jobs are high-paying.

There is only a push to address the gender gap in areas where women are behind, and they are seen as "nice" jobs -- STEM fields.

You are ridiculous. There is a huge push to recruit male teachers for elementary schools. Male nurses, too, are heavily recruited. The stigma is that most people still feel that men who want to teach little kids or nurse are either creepers or gay. Toxic masculinity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Female privilege of course.

Notice there is no push to address the gender gap in areas where women dominate (teaching, nursing); and no push to address the gender gap in areas where men dominate but the job is seen as "dirty" (construction work, electrician) even though those jobs are high-paying.

There is only a push to address the gender gap in areas where women are behind, and they are seen as "nice" jobs -- STEM fields.

No push?
https://www.edutopia.org/male-teacher-shortage
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.602.1860&rep=rep1&type=pdf
https://educationpost.org/these-guys-arent-just-talking-about-it-theyre-recruiting-and-keeping-male-educators-of-color-in-the-classroom/
http://www.menteach.org/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4128694?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://www.blackenterprise.com/attacking-the-2-problem-black-male-teacher-recruitment/

It's been understood to be a lack and work has gone into trying to actively remedy it for quite a while.

23% of public school teachers were male in 2015-2016. (https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_clr.asp)

Women make up 9.1% of the construction workforce. (https://www.nawic.org/nawic/Statistics.asp)

Seems men are doing significantly better in traditionally female occupations than women are in traditionally male ones. Why should we be focusing on men, again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The more women in a particular line of work there are, the less prestigious that line of work will be to men. It’s happening in some legal practice areas..

+1 million. Medicine, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more women in a particular line of work there are, the less prestigious that line of work will be to men. It’s happening in some legal practice areas..

+1 million. Medicine, too.

Family practice, pediatrics, OB/GYN, allergy/immunology, medical genetics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on another thread, the national ratio is 60% female and 40% male.

Why is this? What are male high school graduates doing? Do they eventually go to college? If so, wouldn't the ratio be 50 - 50?

Outrageous gender discrimination.

[Anonymous]

According to the National Center for Educational Statistics, 56% of students enrolled in postsecondary are female (based on 2017 enrollment). Interestingly though, over the past decade and a half male enrollment has grown at a slightly higher pace than female.

[Anonymous]

MCPS male employment has sat around 20% for the last 3 years, despite all their diversity initiatives. All they seem to care about is racial diversity:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/press/index.aspx?pagetype=showrelease&id=8233&type=&startYear=&pageNumber=&mode=

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS male employment has sat around 20% for the last 3 years, despite all their diversity initiatives. All they seem to care about is racial diversity:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/press/index.aspx?pagetype=showrelease&id=8233&type=&startYear=&pageNumber=&mode=

I think you need to read your citation more closely:

The increase stems from a multi-pronged approach to hiring that includes:

-Presence at events hosted by Historically Black Colleges and Universities
-Expanded recruitment through online venues that target minority teachers
-Targeted teacher recruitment in Puerto Rico
-Development of and continued support for the BOND Project, an initiative focused on the recruitment and retention of male educators of color in MCPS
-Investment in pathways program for supporting services employees to assist those interested in becoming teachers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS male employment has sat around 20% for the last 3 years, despite all their diversity initiatives. All they seem to care about is racial diversity:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/press/index.aspx?pagetype=showrelease&id=8233&type=&startYear=&pageNumber=&mode=

I think you need to read your citation more closely:

The increase stems from a multi-pronged approach to hiring that includes:

-Presence at events hosted by Historically Black Colleges and Universities
-Expanded recruitment through online venues that target minority teachers
-Targeted teacher recruitment in Puerto Rico
-Development of and continued support for the BOND Project, an initiative focused on the recruitment and retention of male educators of color in MCPS
-Investment in pathways program for supporting services employees to assist those interested in becoming teachers

Look at the results. Male educators have stayed the same or gone down in each of the last 3 years.