Is Rodan and Fields over?

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Anonymous wrote:Those who think they are independent contractors. How cute the company has you thinking that as you are pushing family/friends furhter and further away.

My DH does graphic design and is an idependent cotractor. You know what he doesn't do? Try to sell graphic design to all of our friends and family.
He also sets his own price points, marketing techniques/tools and works for a variey of companies needing his specific skillset.

What skills do you have selling lotions?

Interesting. I have a friend who is a graphic artist and he does do friends and family websites.

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Lularoe is basically going out of business. The owners stiffed their suppliers to the tune of millions of dollars and are now being sued by everyone under the sun, including their own consultants, because, among other things, the company stopped honoring their refund and buyback program.

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

Just as FYI, you don't own it. If you're forbidden to open a store to sell your products, are told by your upline how to word posts and what to sell, and your company has an actual CEO, then you don't "own" anything. Drs. Rodan and Fields do.

You think independent contractors have CEOs? You think small businesses have CEOs?

Get an education before you post.

LMAO. Am referring to HunBots actual posts, about how they are "CEOs" and "Own their own business". They own nothing, the majority of MLMs don't even allow them to pass their pyramids down to their kids. But nice, take a cheap shot at me.

Most businesses are not passed down to kids. That does not mean they are not a business. You don't understand business, you only understand "jobs". You don't get how it works.

Can you sell your "small business" then? ALL small business owners are able to either sell their business or pass it down.

Gosh, I do need an education. And educate others too! I'm about to stroll into the owner/CEO's office at the small firm where I currently work and tell him that a) he doesn't exist, and b) his firm cannot be passed down to his kids or sold.

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Anonymous wrote:What about Juice Plus? Someone I know I has been trying to sell this to me for years- feigning concern over my kids’ nutrition as she sees that my daughter doesn’t like vegetables. So freaking annoying.

I think its crazy people give this unregulated shit to their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

Just as FYI, you don't own it. If you're forbidden to open a store to sell your products, are told by your upline how to word posts and what to sell, and your company has an actual CEO, then you don't "own" anything. Drs. Rodan and Fields do.

You think independent contractors have CEOs? You think small businesses have CEOs?

Get an education before you post.

LMAO. Am referring to HunBots actual posts, about how they are "CEOs" and "Own their own business". They own nothing, the majority of MLMs don't even allow them to pass their pyramids down to their kids. But nice, take a cheap shot at me.

Most businesses are not passed down to kids. That does not mean they are not a business. You don't understand business, you only understand "jobs". You don't get how it works.

Can you sell your "small business" then? ALL small business owners are able to either sell their business or pass it down.

Gosh, I do need an education. And educate others too! I'm about to stroll into the owner/CEO's office at the small firm where I currently work and tell him that a) he doesn't exist, and b) his firm cannot be passed down to his kids or sold.

Most small businesses function on a small margin and when they retire there is very little to "sell". Is a small plumbing company gonna sell his tools? What planet do you live on.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who think they are independent contractors. How cute the company has you thinking that as you are pushing family/friends furhter and further away.

My DH does graphic design and is an idependent cotractor. You know what he doesn't do? Try to sell graphic design to all of our friends and family.
He also sets his own price points, marketing techniques/tools and works for a variey of companies needing his specific skillset.

What skills do you have selling lotions?

Interesting. I have a friend who is a graphic artist and he does do friends and family websites.

I don't think the PP is saying he WON'T work for friends and family, more like he doesn't corner these people at parties, spam their inbox, ring them up multiple times a week, and invite them on outings for the sole purpose of hawking his services.

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To the original question, I dunno, but my former coworker just signed up within recent months. Wonder how far along the downline she is.

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

And she's here, folks! Been waiting for you!

But she forgot to add the "it breaks my heart" phrase in the above screed. Honestly, every friend I've had that was taken in by one of these MLMs changed personalities while they were plugging their sales, almost glassy-eyed, with a perma smile. When they stopped selling, it was like a switch was turned off and they came back to reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

Just as FYI, you don't own it. If you're forbidden to open a store to sell your products, are told by your upline how to word posts and what to sell, and your company has an actual CEO, then you don't "own" anything. Drs. Rodan and Fields do.

You think independent contractors have CEOs? You think small businesses have CEOs?

Get an education before you post.

LMAO. Am referring to HunBots actual posts, about how they are "CEOs" and "Own their own business". They own nothing, the majority of MLMs don't even allow them to pass their pyramids down to their kids. But nice, take a cheap shot at me.

Most businesses are not passed down to kids. That does not mean they are not a business. You don't understand business, you only understand "jobs". You don't get how it works.

Can you sell your "small business" then? ALL small business owners are able to either sell their business or pass it down.

Gosh, I do need an education. And educate others too! I'm about to stroll into the owner/CEO's office at the small firm where I currently work and tell him that a) he doesn't exist, and b) his firm cannot be passed down to his kids or sold.

Most small businesses function on a small margin and when they retire there is very little to "sell". Is a small plumbing company gonna sell his tools? What planet do you live on.

But if they wanted to sell a working business to someone prior to retirement, they could. And yeah, upon retirement they could sell their tools, their work van, their wet vacs, etc. You can't. Because you don't own anything. You can't even legally resell the merchandise at a big discount.

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

Just as FYI, you don't own it. If you're forbidden to open a store to sell your products, are told by your upline how to word posts and what to sell, and your company has an actual CEO, then you don't "own" anything. Drs. Rodan and Fields do.

You think independent contractors have CEOs? You think small businesses have CEOs?

Get an education before you post.

LMAO. Am referring to HunBots actual posts, about how they are "CEOs" and "Own their own business". They own nothing, the majority of MLMs don't even allow them to pass their pyramids down to their kids. But nice, take a cheap shot at me.

Most businesses are not passed down to kids. That does not mean they are not a business. You don't understand business, you only understand "jobs". You don't get how it works.

Can you sell your "small business" then? ALL small business owners are able to either sell their business or pass it down.

Gosh, I do need an education. And educate others too! I'm about to stroll into the owner/CEO's office at the small firm where I currently work and tell him that a) he doesn't exist, and b) his firm cannot be passed down to his kids or sold.

Most small businesses function on a small margin and when they retire there is very little to "sell". Is a small plumbing company gonna sell his tools? What planet do you live on.

But if they wanted to sell a working business to someone prior to retirement, they could. And yeah, upon retirement they could sell their tools, their work van, their wet vacs, etc. You can't. Because you don't own anything. You can't even legally resell the merchandise at a big discount.

they could sell them all their product samples and introduce them to their regular client base.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who think they are independent contractors. How cute the company has you thinking that as you are pushing family/friends furhter and further away.

My DH does graphic design and is an idependent cotractor. You know what he doesn't do? Try to sell graphic design to all of our friends and family.
He also sets his own price points, marketing techniques/tools and works for a variey of companies needing his specific skillset.

What skills do you have selling lotions?

Interesting. I have a friend who is a graphic artist and he does do friends and family websites.

I don't think the PP is saying he WON'T work for friends and family, more like he doesn't corner these people at parties, spam their inbox, ring them up multiple times a week, and invite them on outings for the sole purpose of hawking his services.

Men don't do this to you because you don't have a business and you are not a prospective client. I get men selling me stuff all the time.

Just today I had a friend's brother contact me to do the floors in my house because he has a flooring business.

I know men with auto repair businesses and if they see a little dent (which I would never fix) they hand me their card.

I am in an industry where I buy products from computer companies. When men find out my position in my company they hit me up at parties for a meeting.

Just because you are of no use to men that have businesses does not mean they don't help each other out and expect friends and family to do the same.

My brother is a gazillionaire and he just hit me up for 5 contact for a new venture he is doing. He knows I have contacts with venture capitalist and wants names.

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

Just as FYI, you don't own it. If you're forbidden to open a store to sell your products, are told by your upline how to word posts and what to sell, and your company has an actual CEO, then you don't "own" anything. Drs. Rodan and Fields do.

You think independent contractors have CEOs? You think small businesses have CEOs?

Get an education before you post.

LMAO. Am referring to HunBots actual posts, about how they are "CEOs" and "Own their own business". They own nothing, the majority of MLMs don't even allow them to pass their pyramids down to their kids. But nice, take a cheap shot at me.

Most businesses are not passed down to kids. That does not mean they are not a business. You don't understand business, you only understand "jobs". You don't get how it works.

Can you sell your "small business" then? ALL small business owners are able to either sell their business or pass it down.

Gosh, I do need an education. And educate others too! I'm about to stroll into the owner/CEO's office at the small firm where I currently work and tell him that a) he doesn't exist, and b) his firm cannot be passed down to his kids or sold.

Most small businesses function on a small margin and when they retire there is very little to "sell". Is a small plumbing company gonna sell his tools? What planet do you live on.

But if they wanted to sell a working business to someone prior to retirement, they could. And yeah, upon retirement they could sell their tools, their work van, their wet vacs, etc. You can't. Because you don't own anything. You can't even legally resell the merchandise at a big discount.

they could sell them all their product samples and introduce them to their regular client base.

Pretty sure they're not allowed to sell any of that stuff, and definitely not at a discount. There are secret "illegal" FB groups where you can get deeply discounted MLM merchandise - it's people trying to get out and get rid of their merchandise without the company finding out. My friend who swears by the R&F eyelash stuff is in several of those groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

Just as FYI, you don't own it. If you're forbidden to open a store to sell your products, are told by your upline how to word posts and what to sell, and your company has an actual CEO, then you don't "own" anything. Drs. Rodan and Fields do.

You think independent contractors have CEOs? You think small businesses have CEOs?

Get an education before you post.

LMAO. Am referring to HunBots actual posts, about how they are "CEOs" and "Own their own business". They own nothing, the majority of MLMs don't even allow them to pass their pyramids down to their kids. But nice, take a cheap shot at me.

Most businesses are not passed down to kids. That does not mean they are not a business. You don't understand business, you only understand "jobs". You don't get how it works.

Can you sell your "small business" then? ALL small business owners are able to either sell their business or pass it down.

Gosh, I do need an education. And educate others too! I'm about to stroll into the owner/CEO's office at the small firm where I currently work and tell him that a) he doesn't exist, and b) his firm cannot be passed down to his kids or sold.

Most small businesses function on a small margin and when they retire there is very little to "sell". Is a small plumbing company gonna sell his tools? What planet do you live on.

But if they wanted to sell a working business to someone prior to retirement, they could. And yeah, upon retirement they could sell their tools, their work van, their wet vacs, etc. You can't. Because you don't own anything. You can't even legally resell the merchandise at a big discount.

they could sell them all their product samples and introduce them to their regular client base.

Pretty sure they're not allowed to sell any of that stuff, and definitely not at a discount. There are secret "illegal" FB groups where you can get deeply discounted MLM merchandise - it's people trying to get out and get rid of their merchandise without the company finding out. My friend who swears by the R&F eyelash stuff is in several of those groups.

Good to know. That eyelash stuff is really great, especially after chemo. no eyelashes are not fun.

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

And she's here, folks! Been waiting for you!

But she forgot to add the "it breaks my heart" phrase in the above screed. Honestly, every friend I've had that was taken in by one of these MLMs changed personalities while they were plugging their sales, almost glassy-eyed, with a perma smile. When they stopped selling, it was like a switch was turned off and they came back to reality.

Well it Does break my heart! We should be supporting other women who are working hard to provide for their families. Just because you don’t like your job and are jealous of their lifestyle, that’s no reason to hate on them!

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Anonymous wrote:Such hate against women owned businesses. No wonder men owned businesses succeed - they support one another instead of tearing each other down

Men don’t try to sell their products to their friends. On social media. And then tell their friends they too should sell the product.

Men definitely get sucked into MLMs, especially the diet and fitness-related stuff. But, as was slyly mentioned in at least one documentary I watched (and verified by a guy I know who used to hawk one of the big name products), most of the top and middle level guys are actually selling/using anabolic steroids. I'm not saying that's morally correct or whatever, but those steroids DO work and it's not a hard sell once people figure it out. There are a lot more guys interested in purchasing those than there are women who want ugly leggings or overpriced facial serums.