happening right now: 250 migrant children held in terrible, inhumane conditions in Texas

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Anonymous wrote:Distribution of these children to liberals

I would make room in my home in a heartbeat, for as long as necessary.

You’d take a family in and provide all food, clothing, and medical care out of pocket? And provide child care and transportation?

I'll be completely honest, because I've given this some thought. We can just barely pay our bills every month. We are middle class, with lots of education and social resources and very little cash. Lots of student loans, etc. I have young children, including a daughter, and would not be comfortable with an adult man or even teenage boys in my home that I didn't know. We have a guest room, so they would have to fit in there. I could accommodate a mother with one or two young children. We could accommodate and care for two young children without a parent who were elementary age. We can't afford childcare, so children too young for school would not work. We could manage the additional cost of food, clothing, etc. DH is a federal employee, so if the government would agree to cover the cost of adding them to our health insurance, that would be great. We could figure out how to deal with additional healthcare costs if they were otherwise insured. I live in a community that is about 30% latino, so I think we could connect them socially with people that share their language and culture to make them feel less scared and more at home.

It would be hard, no doubt about it, but it is a privilege to help others in need because it means I have resources to share.

So you would split up a family because you are uncomfortable?

You sound nice but families should be together. Kids need their fathers. Where would the teenage brother stay? Alone in a disgusting shelter while the rest of his family had a decent place?

Not cool.

Oh, good grief, of course not. The foremost atrocity in this whole situation is the separation of families. I'm describing what kinds of families we, personally, could accommodate. Read the article OP quoted. There are children there with no adults taking care of them. I'm describing the slice of the problem that my family would be in a position to help. I would love it if I had a separate apartment or guest cottage that could house a family with a father and/or older boys. I have a teenage son, myself, and I adore his many wonderful friends, so I'm not particularly suspicious of boys or men, but I'm also not naive or ignorant of statistics.

This whole situation sickens me like nothing I can remember.

These for-profit concentration camps charge us, the taxpayers, $750 per day, per child.

Meanwhile, it costs $22,000 to detain *one child* for *one month* and they're not even provided with soap, toothbrushes or beds. Who’s getting richer off of this disaster?

John Kelly.

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Anonymous wrote:Deplorables with a justification for the unjustifiable.

And we’re crazy for being outraged about children being held like this. As a mother, this nonsense absolutely destroys me.

Why is a 2 year old in a facility alone? That child clearly did not come over unaccompanied.

I think our government is continuing to lie to us about what they are doing and is fudging Numbers. They have moved a lot of these people to military facilities so access is damn near impossible.

Perhaps this child came over with someone who is not a relative, or had a warrant? As a mother, would you want this child to stay with that person? If this child were then god forbid to come to harm, would you hold our government accountable for letting them hang out with. a non relative or relative /criminal?

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Anonymous wrote:Doctors without borders already operates in Mexico..I'd much rather fund and expand their mission than these privatized immigration centers. The UN and DWB have 70 years of experience in housing and caring for massive groups of people in need.

This. Why doesn't everyone here make a contribution??

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Anonymous wrote:Deplorables with a justification for the unjustifiable.

And we’re crazy for being outraged about children being held like this. As a mother, this nonsense absolutely destroys me.

Why is a 2 year old in a facility alone? That child clearly did not come over unaccompanied.

I think our government is continuing to lie to us about what they are doing and is fudging Numbers. They have moved a lot of these people to military facilities so access is damn near impossible.

Perhaps this child came over with someone who is not a relative, or had a warrant? As a mother, would you want this child to stay with that person? If this child were then god forbid to come to harm, would you hold our government accountable for letting them hang out with. a non relative or relative /criminal?

As a mother would you want that two year old child to sit around all day in his urine stained pants?

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Anonymous wrote:Distribution of these children to liberals

I would make room in my home in a heartbeat, for as long as necessary.

You’d take a family in and provide all food, clothing, and medical care out of pocket? And provide child care and transportation?

I'll be completely honest, because I've given this some thought. We can just barely pay our bills every month. We are middle class, with lots of education and social resources and very little cash. Lots of student loans, etc. I have young children, including a daughter, and would not be comfortable with an adult man or even teenage boys in my home that I didn't know. We have a guest room, so they would have to fit in there. I could accommodate a mother with one or two young children. We could accommodate and care for two young children without a parent who were elementary age. We can't afford childcare, so children too young for school would not work. We could manage the additional cost of food, clothing, etc. DH is a federal employee so if the government would agree to cover the cost of adding them to our health insurance, that would be great. We could figure out how to deal with additional healthcare costs if they were otherwise insured. I live in a community that is about 30% latino, so I think we could connect them socially with people that share their language and culture to make them feel less scared and more at home.

It would be hard, no doubt about it, but it is a privilege to help others in need because it means I have resources to share.

So you would split up a family because you are uncomfortable?

You sound nice but families should be together. Kids need their fathers. Where would the teenage brother stay? Alone in a disgusting shelter while the rest of his family had a decent place?

Not cool.

Oh, good grief, of course not. The foremost atrocity in this whole situation is the separation of families. I'm describing what kinds of families we, personally, could accommodate. Read the article OP quoted. There are children there with no adults taking care of them. I'm describing the slice of the problem that my family would be in a position to help. I would love it if I had a separate apartment or guest cottage that could house a family with a father and/or older boys. I have a teenage son, myself, and I adore his many wonderful friends, so I'm not particularly suspicious of boys or men, but I'm also not naive or ignorant of statistics.

This whole situation sickens me like nothing I can remember.

These for-profit concentration camps charge us, the taxpayers, $750 per day, per child.

Meanwhile, it costs $22,000 to detain *one child* for *one month* and they're not even provided with soap, toothbrushes or beds. Who’s getting richer off of this disaster?

John Kelly.

Soooo, PP above. You want a government handout to help? And have thought through how to have pretty much zero real discomfort or risk to your family.

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Anonymous wrote:Deplorables with a justification for the unjustifiable.

And we’re crazy for being outraged about children being held like this. As a mother, this nonsense absolutely destroys me.

Why is a 2 year old in a facility alone? That child clearly did not come over unaccompanied.

I think our government is continuing to lie to us about what they are doing and is fudging Numbers. They have moved a lot of these people to military facilities so access is damn near impossible.

Perhaps this child came over with someone who is not a relative, or had a warrant? As a mother, would you want this child to stay with that person? If this child were then god forbid to come to harm, would you hold our government accountable for letting them hang out with. a non relative or relative /criminal?

Doubtful, but nice try.

A child that age should not be in a detention center without an adult. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:House should a pass a very simple effort to immediately address this. It sends a strong statement and could *possibly* work.

Maybe people like OP should volunteer to go to this prison and care for children. Anyone with a pulse knows that this influx of families with children is unexpected and unprecedented . The US border facilities were set up for younger men and some women who once dominated the border crossings. With reduced rates among coyotes for family crossings, are the facilities are overwhelmed. There is not the political will to encourage these crossings, so the deplorable conditions are overlooked.

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Anonymous wrote:Deplorables with a justification for the unjustifiable.

And we’re crazy for being outraged about children being held like this. As a mother, this nonsense absolutely destroys me.

Why is a 2 year old in a facility alone? That child clearly did not come over unaccompanied.

I think our government is continuing to lie to us about what they are doing and is fudging Numbers. They have moved a lot of these people to military facilities so access is damn near impossible.

Perhaps this child came over with someone who is not a relative, or had a warrant? As a mother, would you want this child to stay with that person? If this child were then god forbid to come to harm, would you hold our government accountable for letting them hang out with. a non relative or relative /criminal?

As a mother would you want that two year old child to sit around all day in his urine stained pants?

Wasnt your question about why they might be separated?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deplorables with a justification for the unjustifiable.

And we’re crazy for being outraged about children being held like this. As a mother, this nonsense absolutely destroys me.

Why is a 2 year old in a facility alone? That child clearly did not come over unaccompanied.

I think our government is continuing to lie to us about what they are doing and is fudging Numbers. They have moved a lot of these people to military facilities so access is damn near impossible.

Perhaps this child came over with someone who is not a relative, or had a warrant? As a mother, would you want this child to stay with that person? If this child were then god forbid to come to harm, would you hold our government accountable for letting them hang out with. a non relative or relative /criminal?

Doubtful, but nice try.

A child that age should not be in a detention center without an adult. Period.

So you want a 1:1 ratio of adults to toddlers who have been removed from non relatives who "borrowed" them to cross the border? That's much higher than a typical American daycare.

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Outsiders are not allowed in these facilities. Child care workers, guards and police are mandatory reporters of child abuse. It is illegal if you do NOT report children that are being neglected, held in poor conditions, or being abused somewhere in the United States regardless of their nationality.

Individuals working in these facilities should be supported and trained to tell of any sub-standard conditions, and clergy should demand access to these children.

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Anonymous wrote:Outsiders are not allowed in these facilities. Child care workers, guards and police are mandatory reporters of child abuse. It is illegal if you do NOT report children that are being neglected, held in poor conditions, or being abused somewhere in the United States regardless of their nationality.

Individuals working in these facilities should be supported and trained to tell of any sub-standard conditions, and clergy should demand access to these children.

The article states that many of these children arrived alone. Where are finding these high quality, nurturing 1:1 ratio childcare workers to watch them? Have they all been properly screened?

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Additionally, the article states that the people who run the center do not have enough funding. Would you prefer they pay for a doctor, or a bunch of toothbrushes?

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Anonymous wrote:And they took away sports and activities and are now arguing that they don’t have to provide soap, toothpaste or towels.

To CHILDREN.

Effing monsters.

I want them all tried at The Hague.

Re-read your post, you loon, and pull yourself together. The BP and the administration have made it crystal clear a humanitarian crisis was brewing long before the election. But, NOOOOOOOO the fake news outlets claimed it was a political ploy. You want to blame someone, start with the facts deniers.

THIS. Start with the liberal apologists who scoffed at this crisis - and continue to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?

I just feel so helpless and sad, honestly. I have always wondered what I would do if - just for example - Hitler came to power, and I wasn't personally in danger. And now I know - I would post a lot to social media, talk a lot to friends, vote. And sit here complacently while we do the unthinkable to the innocent.

What makes it especially hard to do anything is that the Trump administration has made it so hard to see what's happening. Neither the media not members of Congress have had an easy time getting access to the children to observe conditions on the ground. Trump's people know how Americans would react if they could see with their own eyes what they're doing.

Nonetheless, there is enough public information that anyone who still supports this administration should be ashamed.

But we know enough to know this is egregiously cruel. Incredibly inhumane. And bad enough when these things happen to adults. But these are babies. Their brains are forming now. These experiences will shape them for their whole lives. Instead of being loved and cared for, they are essentially being treated like the babies in the wire monkey mother experiments.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

We are torturing them. We are torturing them because we are governed by an evil person, and everyone around him is complicit because they get what they want if they go along with it - or they actually believe this is ok.

We should be rioting over this.

All that has to happen for this to be fixed is Congress to allocate funds. Trump doesn’t hold the purse strings.

May your family never be refugees. May you never suffer malice or incompetence that causes your children to be taken from you and held in jail with dirty diapers and other children to try to keep them alive, while armed adults make jokes and laugh about your suffering. While they hope you suffer more.

Link?

Here on Earth, the BP are overwhelmed, sick and dropping like flies from helping people who are getting them sick. BP are watching these kids and taking care of them to the best of their abilities which is far better than their own parents, IMHO. It is a sh#t show down there and if you are so concerned, get your a$$ down there and lend support to those who are actually making a difference. You'd lose your mind if a child was send with someone who was a pedophile or trafficker. Any reasonable person prioritizes physical safety over brushing teeth and 3 hots and a cot, kids being babysat and a nasty diaper. (I can assure you I collected one of my kids from a pricey preschool without socks and shoes on and with wet pants. Crap happens. Collect toothbrushes, offer to wash clothes, send diapers. Just STFU.

#TEAMBP

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Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?

Congress is actively doing something, on a bipartisan basis.

Does the AP know this?

I assume so, since they are smart people. But, they are reporting on a Court hearing, where the Trump admin argued that no matter how much money we allocate, toothbrushes and soap are luxuries that they do not intend to revise.

No, the liberal press is misconstruing what transpired. As usual. The judge referred to an overnight stay and said toothbrushes and soap aren't necessary depending on length of stay. You think we need to hand out toothbrushes and toothpaste the instant they get here? The system is overwhelmed, and these children's parents took them on a long journey without toothbrushes. Now liberals are having a fit because Americans aren't distributing them the first night. They did without them for weeks; they can go without them for one more night.

Don't you people understand that the system is being overwhelmed with all these false cases of asylum?

Thank you. Finally, some sanity in a sea of melodrama and outright lies.