Exactly what are the reasons MCPS are going down the toilet and what areas will be hit hardest?

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Anonymous wrote:My sense is that a typical QO buyer pursues a very different American dream that a Wootton parent, hence the house prices are not really connected. I would expect more impact on Northern Churchill disrroct home values and the morr desirable parts of RM.

I wrote almost a year ago that the social justice warriors can grab for our schools, but they will never get our kids. Sadly, yet unsurprisingly, it appears to be the case.

Just hoping to hold on to the good teachers for as longas we remain here. The exodus at RM has already started; other schools are pending.

What exodus at RM? I don't see any exodus, and I live in the cluster. If anything, I see more families with school aged kids moving into my neighborhood. Our ES bus stop has exploded.

Right. Not sure what that PP is talking about. RM is even running over capacity. An exodus would even be desirable but it’s the opposite that is happening.

Right? And then there's that thread about the development making the cluster even more crowded. What exodus? If there was such an exodus why are there so many new developments?

The first post is likely referring to the math teacher exodus
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/807313.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-do-states-really-stack-2015-naep

Maryland's schools are awful. Worse than New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Georgia, etc. YIKES.

You’re not too bright

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MoCo.. how does it feel to receive the same vitriol you’ve given PG county for the last few decades. Sucks doesn’t it?

Sorry, PG county resident here. It hasn't been MoCo residents giving most of the vitriol. It's the DC and VA folks.

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo.. how does it feel to receive the same vitriol you’ve given PG county for the last few decades. Sucks doesn’t it?

LOL
A bunch of losers who cannot compete with MCPS and are bashing MCPS and you think we give a hoot!?
That's the best they can do. They cannot compete academically, on the field with the big dog.
Maybe we'd be worried a little bit if they were giving us some competitions but helas!
They are like a bunch of chihuahuas barking at a big pit-bull

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MoCo.. how does it feel to receive the same vitriol you’ve given PG county for the last few decades. Sucks doesn’t it?

LOL
A bunch of losers who cannot compete with MCPS and are bashing MCPS and you think we give a hoot!?
That's the best they can do. They cannot compete academically, on the field with the big dog.
Maybe we'd be worried a little bit if they were giving us some competitions but helas!
They are like a bunch of chihuahuas barking at a big pit-bull

We’re all Americans. No one should take pride in an inequity in school systems in our nation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has been going down for the past 10 years.

1. Curriculum 2.0 fiasco. Parents and teachers hated it and complained but MCPS didn't listen. The John Hopkins audit validated all the complaints and said it was a disaster so now they are finally get rid of it. The whole thing really tanked MCPS' reputation. Parents no longer raved about the school. The elementary school grading process with everything being a P was a joke. The year it rolled out when they ended math acceleration kids who had been taking classes 2 years ahead and performing very well were sent back to repeat a remedial and laughably easy 2.0 class. Compacted math was a small comprise but still very behind the prior math acceleration pathway. This started to tip the scales toward VA and Howard county for people looking for good schools and sent others into privates.

2. Scandals. MCPS is truly unique in the sheer number and frequency of employee predators in the system. Issues of MCPS hiding predators or ignoring problems are on the same level as the Catholic Church. There have been so many incident. The one that stick out in my mind was when the middle school girl reported being molested by her teacher and the principal sent her back to his classroom. No punishment or consequences for the principal, just a "misstep". Bad management from Starr and then Smith in not getting rid of people who are a risk to kids and allowing staff to cover up crimes is a big black mark.

3. Plummeting test scores and performance with incompetent attempts to cover it up. Combination of changing demographics and bad curriculum. MCPS wants to blame the dropping scores on the changing demographics but the bad curriculum has had a far greater impact. MCPS focused more on hiding the problem than solving it. Kids failing Algebra exams at increasing rates? Lets not look at the new curriculum, lets just remove final exams so it won't be public.

4. Racial discrimination in the magnets. The new policy to reduce Asian American student representation in magnets is heinous and will drive high performing Asian American to other systems. This in turn will lower test scores.

5. Increasing poverty. MCPS has not responded to this very well. MCPS interpreted restorative justice process to mean not expelling dangerous, violent kids. Victims get to sit next to their attackers the next day.

6. Poor facilities management. Lead and mold way above EPA guidelines in elementary schools, ceilings with holes and leaks, plumbing problems, HVAC problems.

7. Horrendous capacity planning and forecasting.

8. Acrimonious relationship with the community and parents. MCPS motto " we don't care, were just here for our paycheck".

As to which areas will be hit the hardest? All of them. There is an ignorant lets cut off our nose to spite out face behavior going on in TP/Silver Spring. Some think that they will benefit if they can push changes that take down the W schools where they couldn't afford to live. This is short sighted because changes that hurt the W schools will hurt them too. Their property values won't rise if the top schools evaporate. In fact, the SS/TP schools will go down first because they are more on the edge.

Tip of the hat to you. Brilliant summary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on here with a major axe to grind or have an agenda. The ones I love the most are the people who write the long novels, about how shitty MoCo is. You'd think we were in some type of 3rd world country. It's hilarious because some of this stuff is straight up lies.

I'm not even sure they live in MoCo. Never met a real person who espoused any of these wacky views.

Bet that you don’t live in a highly desirable neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been really surprised at how many Indian American families are leaving the Wootton area now. The magnet discrimination deeply insulted this community. Our Chinese neighbors are all talking about moving to but are more on the fence. Academic discrimination against Asian Americans and Chinese in particular is so prevalent that they wonder whether it will just happen again wherever they move. There is a very rich Chinese community in Rockville with churches. activities and other things that make it sadder for them have to leave. In this particular area, this MCPS decision are having a sad impact on people who had planned to stay until their youngest graduated high school. Unlike Silver Spring where there are a ton of lessor known, more affordable private schools or Bethesda/Potomac where there are very expensive, elite private schools, the Wootton area is almost 100% public schools. MCPS short comings hit this area hard. There's a ripple effect that follows. When houses get cheaper in Wootton, then house prices go down in QO.

Where are they moving?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been really surprised at how many Indian American families are leaving the Wootton area now. The magnet discrimination deeply insulted this community. Our Chinese neighbors are all talking about moving to but are more on the fence. Academic discrimination against Asian Americans and Chinese in particular is so prevalent that they wonder whether it will just happen again wherever they move. There is a very rich Chinese community in Rockville with churches. activities and other things that make it sadder for them have to leave. In this particular area, this MCPS decision are having a sad impact on people who had planned to stay until their youngest graduated high school. Unlike Silver Spring where there are a ton of lessor known, more affordable private schools or Bethesda/Potomac where there are very expensive, elite private schools, the Wootton area is almost 100% public schools. MCPS short comings hit this area hard. There's a ripple effect that follows. When houses get cheaper in Wootton, then house prices go down in QO.

Where are they moving?

DCUM fantasy land

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Howard County

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It is racial discrimation now to allow blacks and Spanish kids access to gifted programs? Go back to VA and PG if your Asian snowflake non gifted student is not label gifted simply because they are Asian