Someone made a remark about my sister’s career and it made me wonder ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Education isn’t a social science either. I know scientists thinks social science is a softer BSy category, but it doesn’t actually encompass everything else in the world...

BS doesn’t mean you’re a scientist.

A BS is a degree with more credits in the major itself. It could be in many fields. Often, a BA is a degree from something unscientific because those degrees have a more broad focus, but you can have them in scientific or technical fields if offered and they allow the student to have a more broad focus but still retain the necessary competencies to earn an accredited degree in their major. I have a BA in Computer Science. I took 2 semesters of Engineering level Calculus, 2 semesters of Discrete Mathematics, 1 semester of Computational Theory, and I took 1-2 programming courses through the CS department every semester for 4 years. My husband has a BS in business with a focus on Marketing.

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-a-b-a-and-a-b-s/

I don't think the PP was using BSy to mean Bachelor of Science, but B*llS**t.

Ahhhhhh......okay!

[Anonymous]

Your post reminds me of this interaction

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/politics/john-kerry-thomas-massie-climate-change/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Our family is beyond proud of her!

She is the first doctor in our family so I will brag about it!

I did heed your advice and will NOT say she’s a scientist.

Social scientist maybe or educational researcher

LOL. No. No she isn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Our family is beyond proud of her!

She is the first doctor in our family so I will brag about it!

I did heed your advice and will NOT say she’s a scientist.

Social scientist maybe or educational researcher

LOL. No. No she isn’t.

Sigh...I wish I can be called a doctor...but in reality I'm a married esquire who is a bachelor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Our family is beyond proud of her!

She is the first doctor in our family so I will brag about it!

I did heed your advice and will NOT say she’s a scientist.

Social scientist maybe or educational researcher

LOL. No. No she isn’t.

Sigh...I wish I can be called a doctor...but in reality I'm a married esquire who is a bachelor.

Lawyers don't use that term anymore. I am a Juris Doctoris cum laude from Harvard Law but would never, ever use either "Dr." or "Esq."

[Anonymous]

Well through title she is a doctor
When mail is sent she mjgjt receive mailing addressing her formally as Dr. PHDs are doctors too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Our family is beyond proud of her!

She is the first doctor in our family so I will brag about it!

I did heed your advice and will NOT say she’s a scientist.

Social scientist maybe or educational researcher

LOL. No. No she isn’t.

Sigh...I wish I can be called a doctor...but in reality I'm a married esquire who is a bachelor.

Lawyers don't use that term anymore. I am a Juris Doctoris cum laude from Harvard Law but would never, ever use either "Dr." or "Esq."

LOL. Oh honey.

[Anonymous]

It's because a degree in education is considered the least challenging to obtain - even a master's or PHd. Teaching is hard but the degree is a no brainer.

[Anonymous]

Phd's and D.O.'s should never used Dr. in front of their name

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Our family is beyond proud of her!

She is the first doctor in our family so I will brag about it!

I did heed your advice and will NOT say she’s a scientist.

Social scientist maybe or educational researcher

LOL. No. No she isn’t.

Sigh...I wish I can be called a doctor...but in reality I'm a married esquire who is a bachelor.

Lawyers don't use that term anymore. I am a Juris Doctoris cum laude from Harvard Law but would never, ever use either "Dr." or "Esq."

Get out of brief-writing mode, you can use sarcasm in anonymous forums.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many are conflating the difference between Dr. as a title and Doctor as a profession. A PhD is an advanced degree similar to a MD. However a PhD is a doctorate in a non-medical field.

For titles, an MD is always Dr. Smith. For a PhD, you can call them Dr. Smith or Professor Smith or the generic Mr./Ms./Mrs. You shouldn't include a title in a signature. You wouldn't sign "Yours respectfully, Ms. Larla Jones", unless you are trying to convey the title you wish to be addressed as. Likewise, the only reason to specify "Dr." in your signature is if you wish people to address you with the title Dr. and that is just pretentious.

For professions, doctor refers to a medical doctor. You don't call a doctorate in other professions a doctor. Most people identify their profession with their field ("I'm a bio-chemist,", "I'm a thermodynamics engineer" "I'm a clinical psychologist"). But if you need you can identify with your degree "I"m a PhD in Physics". But PhDs in non-medical fields shouldn't identify themselves as a "doctor".

Mostly agree except for two things, noting for OP/others:

1. Professor is a job specific title (like vice president), you have to be employed as faculty at a college or university to be called that. So someone working in industry, government, as a consultant, etc. would not be a professor regardless of degree.

2. Mr. or Ms. are fine, but if you address people with PhDs this way, make 100% sure you're consistent all the time. A lot of women are sensitive to people calling men Dr. so and so and women Ms. or jumping straight to "Lisa", because this does happen a lot. It's one thing to not be called Dr, it's another if your colleague Mike is.

[Anonymous]

From now on, I would like all of you to address me as Dr. Goldstein. I have a juris doctor, and am a doctor, so would like to be addressed as such. Being that I have learning disabilities, I am very proud of my accomplishment and want everyone to know.

Thank you for your time,
Dr. Lisa Renee Goldstein, JD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From now on, I would like all of you to address me as Dr. Goldstein. I have a juris doctor, and am a doctor, so would like to be addressed as such. Being that I have learning disabilities, I am very proud of my accomplishment and want everyone to know.

Thank you for your time,
Dr. Lisa Renee Goldstein, JD

Is this a joke ?

[Anonymous]

I once had a board member who insisted we address her as Doctor, and everything was always "Dr. Larla Smith, DNP, MSN BSN, RN, [six million other credentials]." She was so darn insecure about being a nurse and not a medical doctor. Actually, she was just flat out insecure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos for being proud of your sister.
Those people were nothing but jerks.

+1. Your sister is a hero