They didn’t catch him. Stop being obtuse. |
23:16 didn't say s/he was OP, and I assumed it was not OP (because OP has been starting responses with "OP here"). |
Previous PP may have meant that the black boy may have been harassed by fellow black students. |
Well, you would be wrong. You have a very self serving interpretation of crime statistics, that not surprisingly, nobody has pointed out. Most white people don't live and/or associate with a significant number of black people, and therefore aren't victimized by them. Just because few white people are killed in SE DC doesn't mean that it's safe for White people. I can't believe that I had to explain this. The idea that white people get a free pass by black people (especially kids) is a great dcum fairytale, but it's hardly what I experienced. And ditto for my friends and family. This was at a time when the crime rate was twice as high as it is today, and racial tension was high as well. There is a reason why everyone with a few bucks moved to the burbs. Anyway, what school did this happen at? Will anyone on dcum volunteer to send their kids to this school? |
That's actually quite true. While a majority of crime is between members of the same racial group, interracial crime is overwhelmingly black on white. In the instances where blacks and whites live/work together there's a significant amount of black on white crime. Based on population numbers and crime rates, blacks are 27 times more likely to attack a white than the other way around. In 2013 (last numbers I saw, Bureau of Justic Statistics) white violent offenders had black victims 4% of the time and black violent offenders had white victims 39% of the time. |
Wrong...one in college and one in middle. No parent wants their kid in the "system" especially AA parents. Things escalate very quickly among kids. At 17/18 they are still kids but the law won't treat them like they are. Protective orders and all your so called actions have never stopped people from being harmed. Just look at the domestic abuse victims that had restraining orders and were still killed in some cases. The streets are the "streets" and has it own form of justice. The goal is to prevent any harm on both sides. I'm from a violent city and have seen situations like this turn tragic. Quick and immediate resolutions are your best bet. If the parent(s) are not responsive, you have tried and lost nothing. Than you know what course of action you have to take. |
Thank you for proving the EXACT POINT that I was making. A majority of crime is between members of the same racial group. That means that a black person is at much higher risk of being the victim of crime perpetrated by another black person than a white person is at risk of being the victim of a crime perpetrated by a black person. Similarly, a white person is at much higher risk of being the victim of a white criminal than a black criminal. That's the point. But - you guys jumping to mistakenly cite problematic data about racial differences in crime rates is troubling. Your talking point about "27 times more likely to attack a white" is actually a talking point directly from the racist American Renaissance site, founded by prominent white supremacist Jared Taylor. Among other gems from this guy are "The races do not have the same average intelligence" and "Maybe, people could now openly admit to their neighbors, 'No, I don’t want blacks moving into the neighborhood because they are not like us.'" Here's a long piece on the history of the white supremacist effort to push the notion of black criminality that covers Taylor extensively https://www.splcenter.org/20180614/biggest-lie-white-supremacist-propaganda-playbook-unraveling-truth-about-%E2%80%98black-white-crime. If you look at the academic research on this topic, you will see that poverty rather than race explains crime rates, period. The reason that blacks commit crimes against whites more than whites against blacks has to do with opportunity -- basically black people are orders of magnitude more likely to interact with whites regularly than the reverse (Robert M. O’Brien, “The Interracial Nature of Violent Crimes: A Reexamination,” American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 93, no. 4). Controlling for opportunity, at least one recent study has found that whites are actually more likely to assault black strangers than the reverse (https://thecrimereport.org/2018/06/22/interracial-crime-study-in-l-a-finds-whites-more-likely-to-assault-blacks-than-the-reverse/). |
What’s your point? If someone is older, it’s no big deal? What a load of drivel PP |
The opposite actually. PP stated "one kid got chased by other kids". My point was that a 6 year old chasing a six year old (or fighting with a six year old) is much less dangerous than a 17/18 year old doing the same thing. High school kids are old enough to 1) really hurt each other and 2) know better. If they are acting out of control enough to do this, then it needs to be taken seriously. |
| Jumping is very common in some parts of DC. Todays paper has the conviction of a young person for jumping another over a perceived insult, and shooting them. At my parochial school the constant talk and threat of who would jump who (not sure there was follow through) gave me stomach aches and I cried daily at home . No one threatened me - I just hated hearing all the excited lord if the flies style discussion. As an adult, I know young people who have been jumped in DC and ended up hospitalized. Its disgusting and parents and schools should work together to change the culture, practice and allure. The kids who chased this person- if the facts are established - are at heart gross cowards to attack in a group, and in need of serious interventions. SEL and community condemnation, as well as policing and vigorous prosecution. Doubt it happens much in homogenously higher SEL schools. They have have subversive bullying and other issues, but jumping will put you in the hospital immediately. So gross. |
^ may have bullying. Many schools work very hard to establish very healthy cultures. All schools and communities need to. |
You aren't fooling anyone with your cherry picked academic research. You can bust out all the statistics you want, but it doesn't make it safe for a white kid (OP's kid?) to hang out in a predominantly AA area that has a significant crime problem. It's dangerous for anyone and should be avoided. And please stop with the poverty nonsense. Poor hispanic immigrants commit very few violent crimes. Do you really think poor Asians are killing each other like black people are in every major city? It's so absurd that it doesn't even really deserve a response. And the last paragraph is just Academics is important, but at a certain point you have to open your eyes to what is happening in the real world.
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Op NEVER brought up ANYTHING about race. Very sad the conversation has devolved to this.
Op consider these options: As a crime victim myself, I’d offer this as an opportunity to teach/reinforce some basic self-protection strategies. Your kid, in less than six months, will be on his own. 1. Get him the Uber/Lyft on the way home a few days per week 2. Consider writing him a pass for early dismissal (15 min before end of school day 3. Consider alternate routes home 4. Consider having him volunteer with a teacher/athletic team/after school club and leave later in the day Has there been any mediation or restorative justice work done with the other kid who chased him? Any counselors/parents involved? |
I know a young person, in DC, who was slain when visiting his mom in his old neighborhood YEARS later over some ridiculous perceived beef. Tragic. I would want this resolved. If I perceived a lingering threat, I would consider identity change/moving. These sociopathic young people have long memories and nothing better to do than screw up someone's life. |
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OP - all DC schools are required to have bullying prevention policies in place and must complete an investigation when bullying is alleged. Write to the principal AND the charter head (executive director, CEO) AND also place a call to the public charter school board. If it is a small school and the principal is the executive director, then write to the charter school board chair. It's important that you use the word "bullying" and mention the police report.
The idea of taking your child for a doctor's excuse is a very good one especially if the trauma is causing him problems with attending school. Some charters don't want to mess up their in-seat attendance rate and that might be why they are not considering your request to have him do work from home. In my experience, school staff is often rushed. They may not be considering all of the factors. They'll respond faster when you involve administrators higher up. |