Shepherd ES to New North Middle School?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creating a test-in MS/HS magnet somewhere in upper NW would be an interesting solution to alleviate Deal/Wilson crowding. Banneker that actually draws Ward 3 students.

Any test-in magnet needs to be centrally located, and convenient to public transit. Putting it in upper NW would be an affront to the rest of the city.

Such a school would and should offer the promise of providing a high-quality option to children who lack them due to zip code, as well as be a release valve for Deal and Wilson. Your idea posits that the only students who would be able to test in live in upper Northwest, or that children from other parts of the city should have a lengthy commute.

Ward 3 kids can go to Banneker too. Don't be frightened by Georgia Ave.

My point is that they're not going there now. Adding a WOTP magnet in addition to the existing EOTP magnet (Banneker) could make a big difference in alleviating Deal/Wilson crowding. An EOTR magnet would round that out nicely as well.

[Anonymous]

I deplore some of the thinking that went into PP's Ward 3-centric post there, but I think there's a point: DCPS could seriously aim higher than its current application schools. Something that was truly only for the top 5% of Wilson students, top 10 or 20% of SWW or Banneker students and set a high bar in STEM and English would do great things for DCPS' reputation and be a HUGE draw to the system overall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creating a test-in MS/HS magnet somewhere in upper NW would be an interesting solution to alleviate Deal/Wilson crowding. Banneker that actually draws Ward 3 students.

Any test-in magnet needs to be centrally located, and convenient to public transit. Putting it in upper NW would be an affront to the rest of the city.

Such a school would and should offer the promise of providing a high-quality option to children who lack them due to zip code, as well as be a release valve for Deal and Wilson. Your idea posits that the only students who would be able to test in live in upper Northwest, or that children from other parts of the city should have a lengthy commute.

Ward 3 kids can go to Banneker too. Don't be frightened by Georgia Ave.

My point is that they're not going there now. Adding a WOTP magnet in addition to the existing EOTP magnet (Banneker) could make a big difference in alleviating Deal/Wilson crowding. An EOTR magnet would round that out nicely as well.

They don't go there because there aren't enough white kids. Duh!!

[Anonymous]

Hi,

My name is Brian Doyle, and I am the Co-Chair of the Ward 3 - Wilson Feeder Education Network (or W3EdNet). I have been involved in the group since it started. W3EdNet has *never* advocated for the removal of any school from the Wilson feeder pattern. Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed (or worse). I am not saying that no one in Ward 3 (or anywhere else in the city) hasn't advocated for those positions -- obviously several anonymous people on this thread are -- but no one from W3EdNet ever has.

While I have your attention, parents and staff from every school in the Wilson feeder pattern, and DCPS and DME staff just finished working on a Community Working Group on Overcrowding in Wilson Feeder Schools that for the past roughly 18 months has sought solutions to overcrowding. DCPS just issued its report yesterday.

Hopefully it will be up on their website on Monday: https://dcpsplanning.wordpress.com/category/wilson-feeder-pattern/ .

Until then it is posted on the W3EdNet website along with our response letter: https://www.w3ednet.com/advocacy:
Report: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H-DR6yCFkXcynseHcWQTu6R0JGeNcHpM
Response Letter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WmiwqnRQ_xFgjxTWQfIHHP6qe4RNQ34e

(And removing schools from the feeder pattern or discontinuing OOB feeder rights was explicitly off of the table for discussion.)

Thanks,

Brian
W3EdNet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi,

My name is Brian Doyle, and I am the Co-Chair of the Ward 3 - Wilson Feeder Education Network (or W3EdNet). I have been involved in the group since it started. W3EdNet has *never* advocated for the removal of any school from the Wilson feeder pattern. Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed (or worse). I am not saying that no one in Ward 3 (or anywhere else in the city) hasn't advocated for those positions -- obviously several anonymous people on this thread are -- but no one from W3EdNet ever has.

While I have your attention, parents and staff from every school in the Wilson feeder pattern, and DCPS and DME staff just finished working on a Community Working Group on Overcrowding in Wilson Feeder Schools that for the past roughly 18 months has sought solutions to overcrowding. DCPS just issued its report yesterday.

Hopefully it will be up on their website on Monday: https://dcpsplanning.wordpress.com/category/wilson-feeder-pattern/ .

Until then it is posted on the W3EdNet website along with our response letter: https://www.w3ednet.com/advocacy:
Report: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H-DR6yCFkXcynseHcWQTu6R0JGeNcHpM
Response Letter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WmiwqnRQ_xFgjxTWQfIHHP6qe4RNQ34e

(And removing schools from the feeder pattern or discontinuing OOB feeder rights was explicitly off of the table for discussion.)

Thanks,

Brian
W3EdNet

It’s just a shame that you decided on that name. Your name alone says you only care for Ward 3 citizens. So divisive!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi,

My name is Brian Doyle, and I am the Co-Chair of the Ward 3 - Wilson Feeder Education Network (or W3EdNet). I have been involved in the group since it started. W3EdNet has *never* advocated for the removal of any school from the Wilson feeder pattern. Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed (or worse). I am not saying that no one in Ward 3 (or anywhere else in the city) hasn't advocated for those positions -- obviously several anonymous people on this thread are -- but no one from W3EdNet ever has.

While I have your attention, parents and staff from every school in the Wilson feeder pattern, and DCPS and DME staff just finished working on a Community Working Group on Overcrowding in Wilson Feeder Schools that for the past roughly 18 months has sought solutions to overcrowding. DCPS just issued its report yesterday.

Hopefully it will be up on their website on Monday: https://dcpsplanning.wordpress.com/category/wilson-feeder-pattern/ .

Until then it is posted on the W3EdNet website along with our response letter: https://www.w3ednet.com/advocacy:
Report: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H-DR6yCFkXcynseHcWQTu6R0JGeNcHpM
Response Letter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WmiwqnRQ_xFgjxTWQfIHHP6qe4RNQ34e

(And removing schools from the feeder pattern or discontinuing OOB feeder rights was explicitly off of the table for discussion.)

Thanks,

Brian
W3EdNet

It’s just a shame that you decided on that name. Your name alone says you only care for Ward 3 citizens. So divisive!

New poster here.

On the contrary. Until the Ward 3-Wilson Feeder Education Network was formed four years ago, ward-based education networks or councils existed in every ward in the city except Ward 3. (They all call themselves some form of Ward [x] Education Council, for the most part.) When forming W3EdNet, the group specifically formed it to include the entire Wilson feeder pattern, which extends well beyond Ward 3 to include schools in Wards 1, 2 and 4. The group has active participation from school communities outside of Ward 3.

[Anonymous]

If the schools boundaries do change, won’t existing shepherd students be grandfathered in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi,

My name is Brian Doyle, and I am the Co-Chair of the Ward 3 - Wilson Feeder Education Network (or W3EdNet). I have been involved in the group since it started. W3EdNet has *never* advocated for the removal of any school from the Wilson feeder pattern. Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed (or worse). I am not saying that no one in Ward 3 (or anywhere else in the city) hasn't advocated for those positions -- obviously several anonymous people on this thread are -- but no one from W3EdNet ever has.

While I have your attention, parents and staff from every school in the Wilson feeder pattern, and DCPS and DME staff just finished working on a Community Working Group on Overcrowding in Wilson Feeder Schools that for the past roughly 18 months has sought solutions to overcrowding. DCPS just issued its report yesterday.

Hopefully it will be up on their website on Monday: https://dcpsplanning.wordpress.com/category/wilson-feeder-pattern/ .

Until then it is posted on the W3EdNet website along with our response letter: https://www.w3ednet.com/advocacy:
Report: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H-DR6yCFkXcynseHcWQTu6R0JGeNcHpM
Response Letter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WmiwqnRQ_xFgjxTWQfIHHP6qe4RNQ34e

(And removing schools from the feeder pattern or discontinuing OOB feeder rights was explicitly off of the table for discussion.)

Thanks,

Brian
W3EdNet

Thank you for your hard work. But the uncomfortable truth is that any “report” that does not at least include a discussion of ending OOB feeder rights is not worth the paper it is written on. Between Hardy and Deal there are over 750 OOB students. A good portion of these OOB kids are white kids with privilege who could be transforming their neighborhood schools in tremendous ways. Wilson could be right sized tomorrow morning with the stroke of a pen. At no cost to the tax DC taxpayers, most of which do not even have children. But instead DCPS has sent you on a fools erand to find other ways which will take years to implement (if at all) and will do nothing but further exacerbate Wilson overcrowding. It appears you did not disappoint them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi,

My name is Brian Doyle, and I am the Co-Chair of the Ward 3 - Wilson Feeder Education Network (or W3EdNet). I have been involved in the group since it started. W3EdNet has *never* advocated for the removal of any school from the Wilson feeder pattern. Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed (or worse). I am not saying that no one in Ward 3 (or anywhere else in the city) hasn't advocated for those positions -- obviously several anonymous people on this thread are -- but no one from W3EdNet ever has.

While I have your attention, parents and staff from every school in the Wilson feeder pattern, and DCPS and DME staff just finished working on a Community Working Group on Overcrowding in Wilson Feeder Schools that for the past roughly 18 months has sought solutions to overcrowding. DCPS just issued its report yesterday.

Hopefully it will be up on their website on Monday: https://dcpsplanning.wordpress.com/category/wilson-feeder-pattern/ .

Until then it is posted on the W3EdNet website along with our response letter: https://www.w3ednet.com/advocacy:
Report: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H-DR6yCFkXcynseHcWQTu6R0JGeNcHpM
Response Letter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WmiwqnRQ_xFgjxTWQfIHHP6qe4RNQ34e

(And removing schools from the feeder pattern or discontinuing OOB feeder rights was explicitly off of the table for discussion.)

Thanks,

Brian
W3EdNet

Thank you for this Brian. The fact is, if you even want to have the appearance of an inclusive organization, the name should be changed to something like Wilson pyramid. Wilson has feeders from ward 1, 2, 3, and 4. Also, any outreach from your org should be equal to all feeders. I have witnessed first hand that this is not the case. Lastly, yes, the city told you removing neighborhoods was off the table for this exercise, but don’t pretend to be oblivious to the advocates in your org that do push this agenda in your meetings.

-NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creating a test-in MS/HS magnet somewhere in upper NW would be an interesting solution to alleviate Deal/Wilson crowding. Banneker that actually draws Ward 3 students.

Any test-in magnet needs to be centrally located, and convenient to public transit. Putting it in upper NW would be an affront to the rest of the city.

Such a school would and should offer the promise of providing a high-quality option to children who lack them due to zip code, as well as be a release valve for Deal and Wilson. Your idea posits that the only students who would be able to test in live in upper Northwest, or that children from other parts of the city should have a lengthy commute.

Ward 3 kids can go to Banneker too. Don't be frightened by Georgia Ave.

My point is that they're not going there now. Adding a WOTP magnet in addition to the existing EOTP magnet (Banneker) could make a big difference in alleviating Deal/Wilson crowding. An EOTR magnet would round that out nicely as well.

They don't go there because there aren't enough white kids. Duh!!

+1. Why should DCPS cater to racism?

[Anonymous]

https://ward4edalliance.org/
The Ward 4 Education Alliance primarily serves the Ward 4 schools that feed into Roosevelt and Coolidge but state that Shepherd and Lafayette families are always welcome to get involved. The name of the organization is not the problem...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for your hard work. But the uncomfortable truth is that any “report” that does not at least include a discussion of ending OOB feeder rights is not worth the paper it is written on. Between Hardy and Deal there are over 750 OOB students. A good portion of these OOB kids are white kids with privilege who could be transforming their neighborhood schools in tremendous ways. Wilson could be right sized tomorrow morning with the stroke of a pen. At no cost to the tax DC taxpayers, most of which do not even have children. But instead DCPS has sent you on a fools erand to find other ways which will take years to implement (if at all) and will do nothing but further exacerbate Wilson overcrowding. It appears you did not disappoint them.

I challenge your assertion that "a good portion of these OOB kids are [privileged] white kids."

Given that:
1) Wilson is about 60% IB
2) About 72% of ward 3 is white (can't find the #s on % white in bounds for Wilson, but ward 3 is a good estimate)
3) Wilson is 34% white

It would seem that based on these #s, there should be somewhere around 620 white kids at the schools based on IB percentages. Actual numbers are more like 790. So out of the OOB population, 78% are non-white.

So you see my issue with the idea that "a good portion" of OOB are privileged white kids. 12%? I'd contend that the OOB opportunities are likely having the intended effect of bringing racial diversity to kids who would have otherwise gone to DCPS schools that still have a very real achievement gap.

For reference - detailed information about school IB% participation here: https://dme.dc.gov/node/1360396 and Wilson data here: http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/scorecard/Woodrow+Wilson+High+School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi,

My name is Brian Doyle, and I am the Co-Chair of the Ward 3 - Wilson Feeder Education Network (or W3EdNet). I have been involved in the group since it started. W3EdNet has *never* advocated for the removal of any school from the Wilson feeder pattern. Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed (or worse). I am not saying that no one in Ward 3 (or anywhere else in the city) hasn't advocated for those positions -- obviously several anonymous people on this thread are -- but no one from W3EdNet ever has.

While I have your attention, parents and staff from every school in the Wilson feeder pattern, and DCPS and DME staff just finished working on a Community Working Group on Overcrowding in Wilson Feeder Schools that for the past roughly 18 months has sought solutions to overcrowding. DCPS just issued its report yesterday.

Hopefully it will be up on their website on Monday: https://dcpsplanning.wordpress.com/category/wilson-feeder-pattern/ .

Until then it is posted on the W3EdNet website along with our response letter: https://www.w3ednet.com/advocacy:
Report: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H-DR6yCFkXcynseHcWQTu6R0JGeNcHpM
Response Letter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WmiwqnRQ_xFgjxTWQfIHHP6qe4RNQ34e

(And removing schools from the feeder pattern or discontinuing OOB feeder rights was explicitly off of the table for discussion.)

Thanks,

Brian
W3EdNet

Thank you for your hard work. But the uncomfortable truth is that any “report” that does not at least include a discussion of ending OOB feeder rights is not worth the paper it is written on. Between Hardy and Deal there are over 750 OOB students. A good portion of these OOB kids are white kids with privilege who could be transforming their neighborhood schools in tremendous ways. Wilson could be right sized tomorrow morning with the stroke of a pen. At no cost to the tax DC taxpayers, most of which do not even have children. But instead DCPS has sent you on a fools erand to find other ways which will take years to implement (if at all) and will do nothing but further exacerbate Wilson overcrowding. It appears you did not disappoint them.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for your hard work. But the uncomfortable truth is that any “report” that does not at least include a discussion of ending OOB feeder rights is not worth the paper it is written on. Between Hardy and Deal there are over 750 OOB students. A good portion of these OOB kids are white kids with privilege who could be transforming their neighborhood schools in tremendous ways. Wilson could be right sized tomorrow morning with the stroke of a pen. At no cost to the tax DC taxpayers, most of which do not even have children. But instead DCPS has sent you on a fools erand to find other ways which will take years to implement (if at all) and will do nothing but further exacerbate Wilson overcrowding. It appears you did not disappoint them.

I challenge your assertion that "a good portion of these OOB kids are [privileged] white kids."

Given that:
1) Wilson is about 60% IB
2) About 72% of ward 3 is white (can't find the #s on % white in bounds for Wilson, but ward 3 is a good estimate)
3) Wilson is 34% white

It would seem that based on these #s, there should be somewhere around 620 white kids at the schools based on IB percentages. Actual numbers are more like 790. So out of the OOB population, 78% are non-white.

So you see my issue with the idea that "a good portion" of OOB are privileged white kids. 12%? I'd contend that the OOB opportunities are likely having the intended effect of bringing racial diversity to kids who would have otherwise gone to DCPS schools that still have a very real achievement gap.

For reference - detailed information about school IB% participation here: https://dme.dc.gov/node/1360396 and Wilson data here: http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/scorecard/Woodrow+Wilson+High+School

NP. Even if your numbers are close, 12% is still rather impactful.

[Anonymous]

Is no one else in the Shepherd Elementary boundary concerned that our Ward 4 elected leaders aren't fighting to keep our rights to Deal and Wilson, and are instead focusing on asking the city to improve Ward 4 schools?