Shepherd ES to New North Middle School?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette and Shepherd to New North and Coolidge. There's plenty of room if you look at how small Coolidge's enrollment is and put the 8th graders in a separate wing there. If it ever fills up, it will be in time for the the 2030s boundary reassignment process.

Bancroft to MacFarland and Roosevelt, with Oyster-Adams serving elementary only and getting the same feeder pattern. You want a DCPS immersion school? You get the immersion school feeders. If you don't like it, SWW @ F-S is the monolingual option for OA.

I like this idea. But with every idea mentioned on any topic that is logical, it will never be what DCPS is thinking.

I agree with the idea, but neither the mayor nor the city administration have the guts. They could do it if they just stuck to their guns. But Lafayette doesn’t make sense geographically and in terms of transportation.

The truth is that the coherent place to break the boundaries for transportation and proximity is at Rock Creek Park. The only reason people don’t is for purposes of getting something better that is within reach. The civil rights integration stuff is being used as a tool for people to get what they want, not serve poor children or integrate the class and race segregation of upper NW.

I live near Powell, Bancroft and Raymond. I’m tired of those people avoiding their local schools and insisting they are the diversity that Deal has and without them it turns into the Third Reich or South Africa or something. My neighborhood middle schools and high schools are undeniably better if those students are forced to come to MacFarland or Roosevelt or Coolidge. DCUM NIMBYs who won’t participate are free to move, but what we need isn’t perpetual access to one overcrowded high school that everyone claims as a property right. It’s an entire school system, especially where localizing integration can make a difference.

If Shepherd, Crestwood (grandfathered) and Bancroft families can take a dedicated bus across Military for 20+ years, Lafayette families can do the same. Sorry, not the best argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in SP. I think Stacey mentioned the redistricting because folks heard about the Ward 3 Parents group are working to kick people out. I think it if Lafayette was included in the redistricting since they are a Ward 4 school; it would be an easier pill to swallow. We have friends at Lafayette that continuously (and mistakenly) mention we are OOB in SP for Deal. I think WotP citizens seem to forget that SP has been going to Deal since Paul MS closed and the surrounding ES were converted to EC.

But yes, it is going to get ugly. Ward 3 and Lafayette parents will not be happy until Shepherd and Bancroft are out. It is a West vs East of the Park battle. I just can't see kids who read at a college level going to Coolidge where 73% can't read at grade level.

Agree 100%, we all know it is about not wanting black kids in their school!

Stop being racially divisive. That is total bullshit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in SP. I think Stacey mentioned the redistricting because folks heard about the Ward 3 Parents group are working to kick people out. I think it if Lafayette was included in the redistricting since they are a Ward 4 school; it would be an easier pill to swallow. We have friends at Lafayette that continuously (and mistakenly) mention we are OOB in SP for Deal. I think WotP citizens seem to forget that SP has been going to Deal since Paul MS closed and the surrounding ES were converted to EC.

But yes, it is going to get ugly. Ward 3 and Lafayette parents will not be happy until Shepherd and Bancroft are out. It is a West vs East of the Park battle. I just can't see kids who read at a college level going to Coolidge where 73% can't read at grade level.

Agree 100%, we all know it is about not wanting black kids in their school!

Stop being racially divisive. That is total bullshit.

Is it bs? really? I guess the true hurts but it still the true. I have read thread here from people west of the park who wants Shepherd out and the true is there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette and Shepherd to New North and Coolidge. There's plenty of room if you look at how small Coolidge's enrollment is and put the 8th graders in a separate wing there. If it ever fills up, it will be in time for the the 2030s boundary reassignment process.

Bancroft to MacFarland and Roosevelt, with Oyster-Adams serving elementary only and getting the same feeder pattern. You want a DCPS immersion school? You get the immersion school feeders. If you don't like it, SWW @ F-S is the monolingual option for OA.

I like this idea. But with every idea mentioned on any topic that is logical, it will never be what DCPS is thinking.

I agree with the idea, but neither the mayor nor the city administration have the guts. They could do it if they just stuck to their guns. But Lafayette doesn’t make sense geographically and in terms of transportation.

The truth is that the coherent place to break the boundaries for transportation and proximity is at Rock Creek Park. The only reason people don’t is for purposes of getting something better that is within reach. The civil rights integration stuff is being used as a tool for people to get what they want, not serve poor children or integrate the class and race segregation of upper NW.

I live near Powell, Bancroft and Raymond. I’m tired of those people avoiding their local schools and insisting they are the diversity that Deal has and without them it turns into the Third Reich or South Africa or something. My neighborhood middle schools and high schools are undeniably better if those students are forced to come to MacFarland or Roosevelt or Coolidge. DCUM NIMBYs who won’t participate are free to move, but what we need isn’t perpetual access to one overcrowded high school that everyone claims as a property right. It’s an entire school system, especially where localizing integration can make a difference.

If Shepherd, Crestwood (grandfathered) and Bancroft families can take a dedicated bus across Military for 20+ years, Lafayette families can do the same. Sorry, not the best argument.

+1000

[Anonymous]

calexander wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

calexander wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounded to me like this was to mobilize people to be ready for the next boundary review -- because they assume/believe WOTP parents will push for some school to be cut from the Deal feeder pattern.

I can't imagine a new chancellor would take that fight during his first year or two, but assuming there is a boundary review in 2023 ... it will be a battle.

This is the lead argument from our intrepid commissioner.

Mobilization is certainly underway. Towards what ends is up for interpretation...

More relevantly, the Ward 3 Ed Net is not viewed as a friendly entity here. At all.

What game are you playing posting this everywhere? It funny you keep posting about it, if I remember correctly at least one of your kids is going to wilson using the Shepherd feeder system. So now you think it is ok to kick out SES out of deal/wilson or you just don't care what happens since you kids are already going to deal/wilson? Stop being an hypocrite!

It seems like you have a personal issue. I write a blog about the happenings at our local ANC meetings. I couldn't very well ignore the topic, introduced by our ANC commissioner, that took up a large chunk of time at the most recent meeting.

And I really didn't offer any opinion about whether Shepherd should stay in the Deal feeder or not, other than suggesting that the likelihood of a change is pretty remote.

We can get together to talk about this anytime.

Where you stand is pretty clear from your original thread and subsequent comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

calexander wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

calexander wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounded to me like this was to mobilize people to be ready for the next boundary review -- because they assume/believe WOTP parents will push for some school to be cut from the Deal feeder pattern.

I can't imagine a new chancellor would take that fight during his first year or two, but assuming there is a boundary review in 2023 ... it will be a battle.

This is the lead argument from our intrepid commissioner.

Mobilization is certainly underway. Towards what ends is up for interpretation...

More relevantly, the Ward 3 Ed Net is not viewed as a friendly entity here. At all.

What game are you playing posting this everywhere? It funny you keep posting about it, if I remember correctly at least one of your kids is going to wilson using the Shepherd feeder system. So now you think it is ok to kick out SES out of deal/wilson or you just don't care what happens since you kids are already going to deal/wilson? Stop being an hypocrite!

It seems like you have a personal issue. I write a blog about the happenings at our local ANC meetings. I couldn't very well ignore the topic, introduced by our ANC commissioner, that took up a large chunk of time at the most recent meeting.

And I really didn't offer any opinion about whether Shepherd should stay in the Deal feeder or not, other than suggesting that the likelihood of a change is pretty remote.

We can get together to talk about this anytime.

Mr. Alexander, thank you for all you don in the neighborhood. Keep it up!

NP here, what has Mr. Alexander done for the neighborhood? I really just curious.

[calexander]

Anonymous wrote:

Where you stand is pretty clear from your original thread and subsequent comments.

I have a pretty good idea who you are. Instead of making assumptions, why don't you strike up a conversation the next time you see me around the neighborhood. On your daily walk, perhaps.

[calexander]

Anonymous wrote:
Mr. Alexander, thank you for all you don in the neighborhood. Keep it up!

Thank you, your comment is appreciated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in SP. I think Stacey mentioned the redistricting because folks heard about the Ward 3 Parents group are working to kick people out. I think it if Lafayette was included in the redistricting since they are a Ward 4 school; it would be an easier pill to swallow. We have friends at Lafayette that continuously (and mistakenly) mention we are OOB in SP for Deal. I think WotP citizens seem to forget that SP has been going to Deal since Paul MS closed and the surrounding ES were converted to EC.

But yes, it is going to get ugly. Ward 3 and Lafayette parents will not be happy until Shepherd and Bancroft are out. It is a West vs East of the Park battle. I just can't see kids who read at a college level going to Coolidge where 73% can't read at grade level.

I'm the PP who posed the question upthread. Rumors of this have been going on for a while, and Shepherd parents have been attending meetings etc. to work on this issue, so I was wondering why he chose to bring it up on the listserv now, apropos of nothing. Did he just hear about it, or did he get any new info about the move to push Shepherd out?

Not sure. I will ask him when I see him. He is incredibly nice and will tell you up front his intention or at least has been my experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in SP. I think Stacey mentioned the redistricting because folks heard about the Ward 3 Parents group are working to kick people out. I think it if Lafayette was included in the redistricting since they are a Ward 4 school; it would be an easier pill to swallow. We have friends at Lafayette that continuously (and mistakenly) mention we are OOB in SP for Deal. I think WotP citizens seem to forget that SP has been going to Deal since Paul MS closed and the surrounding ES were converted to EC.

But yes, it is going to get ugly. Ward 3 and Lafayette parents will not be happy until Shepherd and Bancroft are out. It is a West vs East of the Park battle. I just can't see kids who read at a college level going to Coolidge where 73% can't read at grade level.

Agree 100%, we all know it is about not wanting black kids in their school!

Stop being racially divisive. That is total bullshit.

The are parents at Lafayette who have said this to me. The equate black with behavioral problems and low test scores. You may not think that but they do. If you have spent anytime on the AU Park listserv, you are aware how white people view black teenagers walking through the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in SP. I think Stacey mentioned the redistricting because folks heard about the Ward 3 Parents group are working to kick people out. I think it if Lafayette was included in the redistricting since they are a Ward 4 school; it would be an easier pill to swallow. We have friends at Lafayette that continuously (and mistakenly) mention we are OOB in SP for Deal. I think WotP citizens seem to forget that SP has been going to Deal since Paul MS closed and the surrounding ES were converted to EC.

But yes, it is going to get ugly. Ward 3 and Lafayette parents will not be happy until Shepherd and Bancroft are out. It is a West vs East of the Park battle. I just can't see kids who read at a college level going to Coolidge where 73% can't read at grade level.

Agree 100%, we all know it is about not wanting black kids in their school!

Stop being racially divisive. That is total bullshit.

The are parents at Lafayette who have said this to me. The equate black with behavioral problems and low test scores. You may not think that but they do. If you have spent anytime on the AU Park listserv, you are aware how white people view black teenagers walking through the neighborhood.

I have to say this is very true. I've heard many snide comments at my kid's little league games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette and Shepherd to New North and Coolidge. There's plenty of room if you look at how small Coolidge's enrollment is and put the 8th graders in a separate wing there. If it ever fills up, it will be in time for the the 2030s boundary reassignment process.

Bancroft to MacFarland and Roosevelt, with Oyster-Adams serving elementary only and getting the same feeder pattern. You want a DCPS immersion school? You get the immersion school feeders. If you don't like it, SWW @ F-S is the monolingual option for OA.

I like this idea. But with every idea mentioned on any topic that is logical, it will never be what DCPS is thinking.

I agree with the idea, but neither the mayor nor the city administration have the guts. They could do it if they just stuck to their guns. But Lafayette doesn’t make sense geographically and in terms of transportation.

The truth is that the coherent place to break the boundaries for transportation and proximity is at Rock Creek Park. The only reason people don’t is for purposes of getting something better that is within reach. The civil rights integration stuff is being used as a tool for people to get what they want, not serve poor children or integrate the class and race segregation of upper NW.

I live near Powell, Bancroft and Raymond. I’m tired of those people avoiding their local schools and insisting they are the diversity that Deal has and without them it turns into the Third Reich or South Africa or something. My neighborhood middle schools and high schools are undeniably better if those students are forced to come to MacFarland or Roosevelt or Coolidge. DCUM NIMBYs who won’t participate are free to move, but what we need isn’t perpetual access to one overcrowded high school that everyone claims as a property right. It’s an entire school system, especially where localizing integration can make a difference.

If Shepherd, Crestwood (grandfathered) and Bancroft families can take a dedicated bus across Military for 20+ years, Lafayette families can do the same. Sorry, not the best argument.

+1000

DC doesn't do a lot of busing. Especially for elementary kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

calexander wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

calexander wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounded to me like this was to mobilize people to be ready for the next boundary review -- because they assume/believe WOTP parents will push for some school to be cut from the Deal feeder pattern.

I can't imagine a new chancellor would take that fight during his first year or two, but assuming there is a boundary review in 2023 ... it will be a battle.

This is the lead argument from our intrepid commissioner.

Mobilization is certainly underway. Towards what ends is up for interpretation...

More relevantly, the Ward 3 Ed Net is not viewed as a friendly entity here. At all.

What game are you playing posting this everywhere? It funny you keep posting about it, if I remember correctly at least one of your kids is going to wilson using the Shepherd feeder system. So now you think it is ok to kick out SES out of deal/wilson or you just don't care what happens since you kids are already going to deal/wilson? Stop being an hypocrite!

It seems like you have a personal issue. I write a blog about the happenings at our local ANC meetings. I couldn't very well ignore the topic, introduced by our ANC commissioner, that took up a large chunk of time at the most recent meeting.

And I really didn't offer any opinion about whether Shepherd should stay in the Deal feeder or not, other than suggesting that the likelihood of a change is pretty remote.

We can get together to talk about this anytime.

Mr. Alexander, thank you for all you don in the neighborhood. Keep it up!

NP here, what has Mr. Alexander done for the neighborhood? I really just curious.

Hi SP resident here. He attends all these meetings and reports back on his blog, which helps me know what is going on. I can't make most of the meetings due to work and kids' sports schedules. He also ran a great robotics club in the fall for SES/neighborhood kids. I am not sure what your problem is with his post but I find your aggressive demeanor unwarranted. Find a new hobby, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette and Shepherd to New North and Coolidge. There's plenty of room if you look at how small Coolidge's enrollment is and put the 8th graders in a separate wing there. If it ever fills up, it will be in time for the the 2030s boundary reassignment process.

Bancroft to MacFarland and Roosevelt, with Oyster-Adams serving elementary only and getting the same feeder pattern. You want a DCPS immersion school? You get the immersion school feeders. If you don't like it, SWW @ F-S is the monolingual option for OA.

I like this idea. But with every idea mentioned on any topic that is logical, it will never be what DCPS is thinking.

I agree with the idea, but neither the mayor nor the city administration have the guts. They could do it if they just stuck to their guns. But Lafayette doesn’t make sense geographically and in terms of transportation.

The truth is that the coherent place to break the boundaries for transportation and proximity is at Rock Creek Park. The only reason people don’t is for purposes of getting something better that is within reach. The civil rights integration stuff is being used as a tool for people to get what they want, not serve poor children or integrate the class and race segregation of upper NW.

I live near Powell, Bancroft and Raymond. I’m tired of those people avoiding their local schools and insisting they are the diversity that Deal has and without them it turns into the Third Reich or South Africa or something. My neighborhood middle schools and high schools are undeniably better if those students are forced to come to MacFarland or Roosevelt or Coolidge. DCUM NIMBYs who won’t participate are free to move, but what we need isn’t perpetual access to one overcrowded high school that everyone claims as a property right. It’s an entire school system, especially where localizing integration can make a difference.

If Shepherd, Crestwood (grandfathered) and Bancroft families can take a dedicated bus across Military for 20+ years, Lafayette families can do the same. Sorry, not the best argument.

+1000

DC doesn't do a lot of busing. Especially for elementary kids.

They do for MS. Shepherd, Banacroft, and yes Lafayette students ride the bus to Deal.

[Anonymous]

You mean Shepherd and Bancroft and Lafayette students ride the bus to Deal once they become 6th graders, right?