Ben Jealous & MoCo Schools ???

[Anonymous]

The Republicans have made this entire country a cruel joke of its former self so I wont ve out there voting for boss hogan

[Anonymous]

PP, you cannot be serious. Here's a great article by a respected Baltimore journalist. Read it and inform yourself instead of making brash statements.

https://www.marylandmatters.org/single-post/2018/10/16/A-Democratic-Case-for-Supporting-Larry-Hogan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

I don't know if I'm Liberal or Conservative... I'm just old and crotchety but like to think I can see two sides or more to an issue. What I don't understand is what exactly has Jealous accomplished? He seems to be a profession racebaitor. Seriously the NAACP is but a shadow of what it used to be. Plus look at Baltimore, crumbling schools, decimated police, rising crime... Jealous has vociferously advocated for the policies that have nearly destroyed Baltimore. Why would we want that for our state... why would we want MoCo schools at risk to look like Baltimore schools?

Hogan aint great but he's got my vote because not great is much better than worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

I don't know if I'm Liberal or Conservative... I'm just old and crotchety but like to think I can see two sides or more to an issue. What I don't understand is what exactly has Jealous accomplished? He seems to be a profession racebaitor. Seriously the NAACP is but a shadow of what it used to be. Plus look at Baltimore, crumbling schools, decimated police, rising crime... Jealous has vociferously advocated for the policies that have nearly destroyed Baltimore. Why would we want that for our state... why would we want MoCo schools at risk to look like Baltimore schools?

Hogan aint great but he's got my vote because not great is much better than worse.

+1

I’m a Democrat and that’s my thinking.

Hogan is fine. Jealous would be terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

I don't know if I'm Liberal or Conservative... I'm just old and crotchety but like to think I can see two sides or more to an issue. What I don't understand is what exactly has Jealous accomplished? He seems to be a profession racebaitor. Seriously the NAACP is but a shadow of what it used to be. Plus look at Baltimore, crumbling schools, decimated police, rising crime... Jealous has vociferously advocated for the policies that have nearly destroyed Baltimore. Why would we want that for our state... why would we want MoCo schools at risk to look like Baltimore schools?

Hogan aint great but he's got my vote because not great is much better than worse.

This is the only reason I support Hogan! Jealous policies are the bury your head in the sand policies without real discussions that people do in fact need to take responsibility for their actions ALONG WITH the state providing wrap around services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

I don't know if I'm Liberal or Conservative... I'm just old and crotchety but like to think I can see two sides or more to an issue. What I don't understand is what exactly has Jealous accomplished? He seems to be a profession racebaitor. Seriously the NAACP is but a shadow of what it used to be. Plus look at Baltimore, crumbling schools, decimated police, rising crime... Jealous has vociferously advocated for the policies that have nearly destroyed Baltimore. Why would we want that for our state... why would we want MoCo schools at risk to look like Baltimore schools?

Hogan aint great but he's got my vote because not great is much better than worse.

+1

I’m a Democrat and that’s my thinking.

Hogan is fine. Jealous would be terrible.

Me too... former Dem here (not Republican), the days of straight ticket party line voting are over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Outgoing County Exec (and Democrat) Ike Leggett explains why Jealous's education plan will be bad for MoCo:
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/politic...l-declines-to-endorse-jealous/

Sounds good

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

I don't know if I'm Liberal or Conservative... I'm just old and crotchety but like to think I can see two sides or more to an issue. What I don't understand is what exactly has Jealous accomplished? He seems to be a profession racebaitor. Seriously the NAACP is but a shadow of what it used to be. Plus look at Baltimore, crumbling schools, decimated police, rising crime... Jealous has vociferously advocated for the policies that have nearly destroyed Baltimore. Why would we want that for our state... why would we want MoCo schools at risk to look like Baltimore schools?

Hogan aint great but he's got my vote because not great is much better than worse.

+1

I’m a Democrat and that’s my thinking.

Hogan is fine. Jealous would be terrible.

Me too... former Dem here (not Republican), the days of straight ticket party line voting are over.

Generally agree but not this year. Straight GOP for me, the Dems have lost their minds this year. (I'm not Dem or Rep and more often than not have voted Dem)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

I don't know if I'm Liberal or Conservative... I'm just old and crotchety but like to think I can see two sides or more to an issue. What I don't understand is what exactly has Jealous accomplished? He seems to be a profession racebaitor. Seriously the NAACP is but a shadow of what it used to be. Plus look at Baltimore, crumbling schools, decimated police, rising crime... Jealous has vociferously advocated for the policies that have nearly destroyed Baltimore. Why would we want that for our state... why would we want MoCo schools at risk to look like Baltimore schools?

Hogan aint great but he's got my vote because not great is much better than worse.

I'll bite.

What Jealous has accomplished:
a partner at Kapor Capital,
Board Chairman of the Southern Elections Fund[3]
and one of the John L. Weinberg/Goldman Sachs Visiting Professors at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School.
University of Oxford
Columbia University

What hogan has accomplished:

In 1985, Hogan founded Hogan Companies
BA from Florida state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, you cannot be serious. Here's a great article by a respected Baltimore journalist. Read it and inform yourself instead of making brash statements.

https://www.marylandmatters.org/single-post/2018/10/16/A-Democratic-Case-for-Supporting-Larry-Hogan

Maryland matters is run by Republican sig. And the article you quoted doesnt exist. But here's one for you:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-sun-investigates-jealous-20181016-story.html
a Canadian businessman who was looking to open a manufacturing plant in the United States. According to Jealous, he was trying to sell the company owner on a location in Baltimore.


Jealous says the owner was intrigued by the idea of bringing his operation — and 300 jobs — to the city. But the deal fell apart because of Maryland’s soaring health care costs, he says. Of course, Jealous’ take is that Gov. Larry Hogan is to blame.

It is not unusual for politicians to embellish the facts to make a political point, but in this case Jealous is not telling a fish story. There is such a company, and its founder says Jealous’ story is true

How's Maryland's job growth ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

I don't know if I'm Liberal or Conservative... I'm just old and crotchety but like to think I can see two sides or more to an issue. What I don't understand is what exactly has Jealous accomplished? He seems to be a profession racebaitor. Seriously the NAACP is but a shadow of what it used to be. Plus look at Baltimore, crumbling schools, decimated police, rising crime... Jealous has vociferously advocated for the policies that have nearly destroyed Baltimore. Why would we want that for our state... why would we want MoCo schools at risk to look like Baltimore schools?

Hogan aint great but he's got my vote because not great is much better than worse.

I'll bite.

What Jealous has accomplished:
a partner at Kapor Capital,
Board Chairman of the Southern Elections Fund[3]
and one of the John L. Weinberg/Goldman Sachs Visiting Professors at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School.
University of Oxford
Columbia University

What hogan has accomplished:

In 1985, Hogan founded Hogan Companies
BA from Florida state.

If that's what you callled accomplishments, you don’t know what accomplishment is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in that I am voting against Jealous mainly for the ridiculous idea of Universal preK! I hope people give this more thought before assuming it’s the best idea.

Honestly, MCPS can’t even accommodate the students that is currently has. Our MS has class sizes in the 30s. Our 5th Grade Compacted Math class has 35 kids in one classroom.

There are no extra classrooms where MCPS can accommodate 4 years olds for preK.

Also, we are at a Title 1 school and see the kids who have gone through the current Head Start program. It’s great in theory, but the kids are still behind in K-2nd grade. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a good ROI.

Make class sizes smaller and MCPS more efficient and then I can get behind Universal preK.

+1,000+

I’ll tell you where the classroom space is. It’s in the school, moving more kids in the upper grades to trailers.
My kid is on year 2 of being in a trailer.

THIS!!!! I'm a liberal, but there are so many needs in the existing school system, how are they going to fund universal pre-K? I would rather them add another teacher to my child's Kindergarten class of 27. That would help kids more than a year of pre-K. Put the staff and resources where it matters. More staff in the EXISTING Kindergarten could accomplish a lot- more than a year of pre-K. Smaller group instruction for reading and math, facilities improvements, more school counselors. Kids are already in trailers at some schools, where is the classroom space for this pre-K? Universal Pre-K sounds like a great campaign line, but everyone needs to think a little harder about this and what would be given up so all 4 year olds can have a year to learn the alphabet and share.

I don't know if I'm Liberal or Conservative... I'm just old and crotchety but like to think I can see two sides or more to an issue. What I don't understand is what exactly has Jealous accomplished? He seems to be a profession racebaitor. Seriously the NAACP is but a shadow of what it used to be. Plus look at Baltimore, crumbling schools, decimated police, rising crime... Jealous has vociferously advocated for the policies that have nearly destroyed Baltimore. Why would we want that for our state... why would we want MoCo schools at risk to look like Baltimore schools?

Hogan aint great but he's got my vote because not great is much better than worse.

+1

I’m a Democrat and that’s my thinking.

Hogan is fine. Jealous would be terrible.

Me too... former Dem here (not Republican), the days of straight ticket party line voting are over.

Generally agree but not this year. Straight GOP for me, the Dems have lost their minds this year. (I'm not Dem or Rep and more often than not have voted Dem)

+1. Time for an R takeover! And supermajority in Congress so the MAGA agenda can really get going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you cannot be serious. Here's a great article by a respected Baltimore journalist. Read it and inform yourself instead of making brash statements.

https://www.marylandmatters.org/single-post/2018/10/16/A-Democratic-Case-for-Supporting-Larry-Hogan

Maryland matters is run by Republican sig. And the article you quoted doesnt exist. But here's one for you:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-sun-investigates-jealous-20181016-story.html
a Canadian businessman who was looking to open a manufacturing plant in the United States. According to Jealous, he was trying to sell the company owner on a location in Baltimore.


Jealous says the owner was intrigued by the idea of bringing his operation — and 300 jobs — to the city. But the deal fell apart because of Maryland’s soaring health care costs, he says. Of course, Jealous’ take is that Gov. Larry Hogan is to blame.

It is not unusual for politicians to embellish the facts to make a political point, but in this case Jealous is not telling a fish story. There is such a company, and its founder says Jealous’ story is true

How's Maryland's job growth ?

PP, looks like the link changed. Here ya go: https://www.marylandmatters.org/2018/10/17/opinion-a-democratic-case-for-supporting-larry-hogan/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aaaand Ike changes his mind and admits he's a personal friend of Hogan but endorses Ben Jealous
Typical politics and nepatism on his stalling
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/ike-leggett-endorses-jealous-but-says-he-wont-campaign-against-hogan/2018/10/14/1c523b3e-cfc2-11e8-8c22-fa2ef74bd6d6_story.html

Lol, that’s funny.

In other words, "I'm endorsing Ben Jealous but for god-sake don't vote for him.