Residency Fraud growing at Appletree Institute

[Anonymous]

The AG's office should consider cutting plea deals for any Perp who agrees to move into D.C. as a resident, with no $$ penalty attached. Keeping 'em honest is right with the law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think what is frustrating for "new" residents (only 17 years) is that the regulations are sold as being loose so kids in troubled situations don't fall through the cracks. I think most of the people in this area are ok with that. The issue is when it is taken advantage of by people who could afford to live next door to me in CH but instead would rather have a large suburban house. When schools can't even get supplies to teach their at risk population, people should be appalled.

So, first off, I find this post to be a bit ridiculous. I know that residency fraud occurs but I call BS here. Most people in PG cannot afford to live next to you in Columbia Heights. Columbia Heights is now very expensive. But, frankly, that doesn't even matter. Most telling is that this post was written a few days after school started. At Appletree CH, our school was closed and we had to drop kids off down the street at the church. Did you follow them and look at their license plates as they parked and then followed the parents as they walked to the school and dropped their DSs and DDs off? I don't even know how you could have made this observation from a logistical perspective. Maybe, you saw the parents and the kids and they didn't seem as "at-risk" as would have assumed they should be so you figured they couldn't possibly live in city. Either way, they were faulty conclusions based on faulty observations. What if a family friend has to drop off the kids? What if one parents lives in the city and the other one doesn't and they take turns taking the kid to school? What if they moved to DC from Maryland and haven't changed their tags because they park on their parking pad or inside a garage.

I call BS. I dropped my LO off as well and I didn't see what you're claiming.

There are plenty of 2 bedroom apartments in Columbia Heights that are roughly the same cost of (or cheaper than) a mortgage on a PG county suburban house. We all make trade offs in life. If you want a big house and a big yard in the suburbs, that's cool, but don't then turn around and use DC schools for free daycare because it's convenient to your DC government job. That's fraud.

Where are these mythical 1500/month two bedrooms? And how, if you live in Columbia Heights, are you so well-appointed with the living style of everyone in PH County?

[Anonymous]

Acquainted, even.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what is frustrating for "new" residents (only 17 years) is that the regulations are sold as being loose so kids in troubled situations don't fall through the cracks. I think most of the people in this area are ok with that. The issue is when it is taken advantage of by people who could afford to live next door to me in CH but instead would rather have a large suburban house. When schools can't even get supplies to teach their at risk population, people should be appalled.

So, first off, I find this post to be a bit ridiculous. I know that residency fraud occurs but I call BS here. Most people in PG cannot afford to live next to you in Columbia Heights. Columbia Heights is now very expensive. But, frankly, that doesn't even matter. Most telling is that this post was written a few days after school started. At Appletree CH, our school was closed and we had to drop kids off down the street at the church. Did you follow them and look at their license plates as they parked and then followed the parents as they walked to the school and dropped their DSs and DDs off? I don't even know how you could have made this observation from a logistical perspective. Maybe, you saw the parents and the kids and they didn't seem as "at-risk" as would have assumed they should be so you figured they couldn't possibly live in city. Either way, they were faulty conclusions based on faulty observations. What if a family friend has to drop off the kids? What if one parents lives in the city and the other one doesn't and they take turns taking the kid to school? What if they moved to DC from Maryland and haven't changed their tags because they park on their parking pad or inside a garage.

I call BS. I dropped my LO off as well and I didn't see what you're claiming.

There are plenty of 2 bedroom apartments in Columbia Heights that are roughly the same cost of (or cheaper than) a mortgage on a PG county suburban house. We all make trade offs in life. If you want a big house and a big yard in the suburbs, that's cool, but don't then turn around and use DC schools for free daycare because it's convenient to your DC government job. That's fraud.

Where are these mythical 1500/month two bedrooms? And how, if you live in Columbia Heights, are you so well-appointed with the living style of everyone in PH County?

Two second search: https://www.apartments.com/1652-park-rd-nw-washington-dc/dr04pxl/

[Anonymous]

Residency fraud is pretty easy to beat. The racial dog whistles and liberal outrage on this board and public forums of this topic has resulted in an uptick in consultants that can ensure a kid’s residency situation and documentation can pass legal scrutiny. For once, it looks like “the blacks” may get a W here. I’m all for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud is pretty easy to beat. The racial dog whistles and liberal outrage on this board and public forums of this topic has resulted in an uptick in consultants that can ensure a kid’s residency situation and documentation can pass legal scrutiny. For once, it looks like “the blacks” may get a W here. I’m all for it.

What ever system one games that the prize is DC schools should hardly be considered a win. Let’s not forget DC schools are one of the main reasons there are so many poor blacks in the region.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud is pretty easy to beat. The racial dog whistles and liberal outrage on this board and public forums of this topic has resulted in an uptick in consultants that can ensure a kid’s residency situation and documentation can pass legal scrutiny. For once, it looks like “the blacks” may get a W here. I’m all for it.

What ever system one games that the prize is DC schools should hardly be considered a win. Let’s not forget DC schools are one of the main reasons there are so many poor blacks in the region.

Schools are only part of the reason. It’s much deeper than that. But you can keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what is frustrating for "new" residents (only 17 years) is that the regulations are sold as being loose so kids in troubled situations don't fall through the cracks. I think most of the people in this area are ok with that. The issue is when it is taken advantage of by people who could afford to live next door to me in CH but instead would rather have a large suburban house. When schools can't even get supplies to teach their at risk population, people should be appalled.

So, first off, I find this post to be a bit ridiculous. I know that residency fraud occurs but I call BS here. Most people in PG cannot afford to live next to you in Columbia Heights. Columbia Heights is now very expensive. But, frankly, that doesn't even matter. Most telling is that this post was written a few days after school started. At Appletree CH, our school was closed and we had to drop kids off down the street at the church. Did you follow them and look at their license plates as they parked and then followed the parents as they walked to the school and dropped their DSs and DDs off? I don't even know how you could have made this observation from a logistical perspective. Maybe, you saw the parents and the kids and they didn't seem as "at-risk" as would have assumed they should be so you figured they couldn't possibly live in city. Either way, they were faulty conclusions based on faulty observations. What if a family friend has to drop off the kids? What if one parents lives in the city and the other one doesn't and they take turns taking the kid to school? What if they moved to DC from Maryland and haven't changed their tags because they park on their parking pad or inside a garage.

I call BS. I dropped my LO off as well and I didn't see what you're claiming.

There are plenty of 2 bedroom apartments in Columbia Heights that are roughly the same cost of (or cheaper than) a mortgage on a PG county suburban house. We all make trade offs in life. If you want a big house and a big yard in the suburbs, that's cool, but don't then turn around and use DC schools for free daycare because it's convenient to your DC government job. That's fraud.

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Where are these mythical 1500/month two bedrooms? And how, if you live in Columbia Heights, are you so well-appointed with the living style of everyone in PH County?

Two second search: https://www.apartments.com/1652-park-rd-nw-washington-dc/dr04pxl/

that's a basement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what is frustrating for "new" residents (only 17 years) is that the regulations are sold as being loose so kids in troubled situations don't fall through the cracks. I think most of the people in this area are ok with that. The issue is when it is taken advantage of by people who could afford to live next door to me in CH but instead would rather have a large suburban house. When schools can't even get supplies to teach their at risk population, people should be appalled.

So, first off, I find this post to be a bit ridiculous. I know that residency fraud occurs but I call BS here. Most people in PG cannot afford to live next to you in Columbia Heights. Columbia Heights is now very expensive. But, frankly, that doesn't even matter. Most telling is that this post was written a few days after school started. At Appletree CH, our school was closed and we had to drop kids off down the street at the church. Did you follow them and look at their license plates as they parked and then followed the parents as they walked to the school and dropped their DSs and DDs off? I don't even know how you could have made this observation from a logistical perspective. Maybe, you saw the parents and the kids and they didn't seem as "at-risk" as would have assumed they should be so you figured they couldn't possibly live in city. Either way, they were faulty conclusions based on faulty observations. What if a family friend has to drop off the kids? What if one parents lives in the city and the other one doesn't and they take turns taking the kid to school? What if they moved to DC from Maryland and haven't changed their tags because they park on their parking pad or inside a garage.

I call BS. I dropped my LO off as well and I didn't see what you're claiming.

There are plenty of 2 bedroom apartments in Columbia Heights that are roughly the same cost of (or cheaper than) a mortgage on a PG county suburban house. We all make trade offs in life. If you want a big house and a big yard in the suburbs, that's cool, but don't then turn around and use DC schools for free daycare because it's convenient to your DC government job. That's fraud.

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Where are these mythical 1500/month two bedrooms? And how, if you live in Columbia Heights, are you so well-appointed with the living style of everyone in PH County?

Two second search: https://www.apartments.com/1652-park-rd-nw-washington-dc/dr04pxl/

that's a basement

I'm not sure why you think the people doing this can only afford $1500 a month. These are dual income families making 6 figures each. Read the press reports and you'll see high ranking government officials who want a better commute. Would you rather leave the burbs at 8:30 or 9 after drop off and come into the city or drop your kid off at 8:30 in DC and be at your desk before 9? Same thing at pick up.

Again, these are people making a choice and taking resources from those who really need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Same as it ever was.

Put yo' name on a utility bill and present a 'lease' from gramma's studio in ward 8 for your 4 kids at 2 rivers and u Good ta GO baby!

Well, this post demonstrates the mindset that drives a lot of the complaints about residency fraud, doesn't it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same as it ever was.

Put yo' name on a utility bill and present a 'lease' from gramma's studio in ward 8 for your 4 kids at 2 rivers and u Good ta GO baby!

Well, this post demonstrates the mindset that drives a lot of the complaints about residency fraud, doesn't it?

That was a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what is frustrating for "new" residents (only 17 years) is that the regulations are sold as being loose so kids in troubled situations don't fall through the cracks. I think most of the people in this area are ok with that. The issue is when it is taken advantage of by people who could afford to live next door to me in CH but instead would rather have a large suburban house. When schools can't even get supplies to teach their at risk population, people should be appalled.

So, first off, I find this post to be a bit ridiculous. I know that residency fraud occurs but I call BS here. Most people in PG cannot afford to live next to you in Columbia Heights. Columbia Heights is now very expensive. But, frankly, that doesn't even matter. Most telling is that this post was written a few days after school started. At Appletree CH, our school was closed and we had to drop kids off down the street at the church. Did you follow them and look at their license plates as they parked and then followed the parents as they walked to the school and dropped their DSs and DDs off? I don't even know how you could have made this observation from a logistical perspective. Maybe, you saw the parents and the kids and they didn't seem as "at-risk" as would have assumed they should be so you figured they couldn't possibly live in city. Either way, they were faulty conclusions based on faulty observations. What if a family friend has to drop off the kids? What if one parents lives in the city and the other one doesn't and they take turns taking the kid to school? What if they moved to DC from Maryland and haven't changed their tags because they park on their parking pad or inside a garage.

I call BS. I dropped my LO off as well and I didn't see what you're claiming.

There are plenty of 2 bedroom apartments in Columbia Heights that are roughly the same cost of (or cheaper than) a mortgage on a PG county suburban house. We all make trade offs in life. If you want a big house and a big yard in the suburbs, that's cool, but don't then turn around and use DC schools for free daycare because it's convenient to your DC government job. That's fraud.

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Where are these mythical 1500/month two bedrooms? And how, if you live in Columbia Heights, are you so well-appointed with the living style of everyone in PH County?

Two second search: https://www.apartments.com/1652-park-rd-nw-washington-dc/dr04pxl/

that's a basement

I'm not sure why you think the people doing this can only afford $1500 a month. These are dual income families making 6 figures each. Read the press reports and you'll see high ranking government officials who want a better commute. Would you rather leave the burbs at 8:30 or 9 after drop off and come into the city or drop your kid off at 8:30 in DC and be at your desk before 9? Same thing at pick up.

Again, these are people making a choice and taking resources from those who really need it.

You yammer on and on about this, but I have this feeling you don't even have children.