How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

That would send people through the center of McLean, and other residential neighborhoods, to take an extended detour north on the GW Parkway to get on 495. You’d have the MD commuters further jamming the route taken by most DC commuters to Tysons. Another bad idea.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

That would send people through the center of McLean, and other residential neighborhoods, to take an extended detour north on the GW Parkway to get on 495. You’d have the MD commuters further jamming the route taken by most DC commuters to Tysons. Another bad idea.

What? If you are on the Tyson's side of McLean, you can get to the inner loop easily near the Great Falls/Lewinsville - 123 intersection. No need to go through Tyson's or McLean Center. If you are on the otherside of McLean, then you go to the George Washington Parkway entrance off 123 to get to the inner loop. Again, no need to go through McLean Center.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

That would send people through the center of McLean, and other residential neighborhoods, to take an extended detour north on the GW Parkway to get on 495. You’d have the MD commuters further jamming the route taken by most DC commuters to Tysons. Another bad idea.

What? If you are on the Tyson's side of McLean, you can get to the inner loop easily near the Great Falls/Lewinsville - 123 intersection. No need to go through Tyson's or McLean Center. If you are on the otherside of McLean, then you go to the George Washington Parkway entrance off 123 to get to the inner loop. Again, no need to go through McLean Center.

If any of these alternative routes could be accessed “easily,” the commuters you want out of Langley would be taking them. Again, you simply want traffic diverted from your neighborhood to Tysons and other parts of NoVa. No.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

That would send people through the center of McLean, and other residential neighborhoods, to take an extended detour north on the GW Parkway to get on 495. You’d have the MD commuters further jamming the route taken by most DC commuters to Tysons. Another bad idea.

What? If you are on the Tyson's side of McLean, you can get to the inner loop easily near the Great Falls/Lewinsville - 123 intersection. No need to go through Tyson's or McLean Center. If you are on the otherside of McLean, then you go to the George Washington Parkway entrance off 123 to get to the inner loop. Again, no need to go through McLean Center.

If any of these alternative routes could be accessed “easily,” the commuters you want out of Langley would be taking them. Again, you simply want traffic diverted from your neighborhood to Tysons and other parts of NoVa. No.

They would be easier if there was on less entry on the beltway because the beltway would move more smoothly. That is what this sub thread started out as suggesting. Eliminating one of the choke points on the inner loop will make the other entrances move more quickly and thus not really make any difference in the commutes of the current MD drivers access the Georgetown Pike entrance. They would have the same or better commute.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

That would send people through the center of McLean, and other residential neighborhoods, to take an extended detour north on the GW Parkway to get on 495. You’d have the MD commuters further jamming the route taken by most DC commuters to Tysons. Another bad idea.

What? If you are on the Tyson's side of McLean, you can get to the inner loop easily near the Great Falls/Lewinsville - 123 intersection. No need to go through Tyson's or McLean Center. If you are on the otherside of McLean, then you go to the George Washington Parkway entrance off 123 to get to the inner loop. Again, no need to go through McLean Center.

If any of these alternative routes could be accessed “easily,” the commuters you want out of Langley would be taking them. Again, you simply want traffic diverted from your neighborhood to Tysons and other parts of NoVa. No.

They would be easier if there was on less entry on the beltway because the beltway would move more smoothly. That is what this sub thread started out as suggesting. Eliminating one of the choke points on the inner loop will make the other entrances move more quickly and thus not really make any difference in the commutes of the current MD drivers access the Georgetown Pike entrance. They would have the same or better commute.

No. There are other “choke points” around the region, which you are happy to see assume an additional load, so long as you don’t have to observe them. Shutting down one entry point will simply increase the congestion in other directions heading out of Tysons. It would be nice if we could magically reduce the number of cars heading out of Tysons to Maryland and DC, but this will not achieve that goal (and making it harder for everyone other than Langley residents to get out of Tysons would impede the ongoing efforts to redevelop Tysons).

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

That would send people through the center of McLean, and other residential neighborhoods, to take an extended detour north on the GW Parkway to get on 495. You’d have the MD commuters further jamming the route taken by most DC commuters to Tysons. Another bad idea.

What? If you are on the Tyson's side of McLean, you can get to the inner loop easily near the Great Falls/Lewinsville - 123 intersection. No need to go through Tyson's or McLean Center. If you are on the otherside of McLean, then you go to the George Washington Parkway entrance off 123 to get to the inner loop. Again, no need to go through McLean Center.

If any of these alternative routes could be accessed “easily,” the commuters you want out of Langley would be taking them. Again, you simply want traffic diverted from your neighborhood to Tysons and other parts of NoVa. No.

They would be easier if there was on less entry on the beltway because the beltway would move more smoothly. That is what this sub thread started out as suggesting. Eliminating one of the choke points on the inner loop will make the other entrances move more quickly and thus not really make any difference in the commutes of the current MD drivers access the Georgetown Pike entrance. They would have the same or better commute.

No. There are other “choke points” around the region, which you are happy to see assume an additional load, so long as you don’t have to observe them. Shutting down one entry point will simply increase the congestion in other directions heading out of Tysons. It would be nice if we could magically reduce the number of cars heading out of Tysons to Maryland and DC, but this will not achieve that goal (and making it harder for everyone other than Langley residents to get out of Tysons would impede the ongoing efforts to redevelop Tysons).

The other "choke points" have the ability to handle the traffic. But you want to make this about the "rich people", whether or not you say so.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

That would send people through the center of McLean, and other residential neighborhoods, to take an extended detour north on the GW Parkway to get on 495. You’d have the MD commuters further jamming the route taken by most DC commuters to Tysons. Another bad idea.

No. View a map.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it will help the traffic on the inner loop and that may help all those people cutting through get on earlier and not lose any extra time. They can get on at 123.

Terrible idea. That’s sending people on the outskirts of Tysons into the center of Tysons in their cars to get on the Beltway. Exactly what the Tysons planners have been trying to discourage, and making it that much harder for those who have no alternative than to take 123 to get to Vienna, Oakton and Fairfax.

That’s silly! Those on the outskirts can take the DTR to the Beltway which is what they should be doing and what Tyson’s developers intended! The DTR entrance is right there and a mile from 123!

Nope. Either way you are suggesting people should be required to drive further into Tysons than they otherwise would and create additional traffic back-ups in both directions on 123, so that there’s less traffic in your neighborhood from people who are headed in the opposite direction from Tysons. That is not what the Tysons developers intended, or want.

Then go down 123 the other way and get on George Washington Parkway and get on the beltway that way. Eliminating one of the access points to the beltway will help traffic on the beltway. It is supposed to be a limited access road. Having three access points back to back to back is one of the reasons it is choking there.

That would send people through the center of McLean, and other residential neighborhoods, to take an extended detour north on the GW Parkway to get on 495. You’d have the MD commuters further jamming the route taken by most DC commuters to Tysons. Another bad idea.

What? If you are on the Tyson's side of McLean, you can get to the inner loop easily near the Great Falls/Lewinsville - 123 intersection. No need to go through Tyson's or McLean Center. If you are on the otherside of McLean, then you go to the George Washington Parkway entrance off 123 to get to the inner loop. Again, no need to go through McLean Center.

If any of these alternative routes could be accessed “easily,” the commuters you want out of Langley would be taking them. Again, you simply want traffic diverted from your neighborhood to Tysons and other parts of NoVa. No.

They would be easier if there was on less entry on the beltway because the beltway would move more smoothly. That is what this sub thread started out as suggesting. Eliminating one of the choke points on the inner loop will make the other entrances move more quickly and thus not really make any difference in the commutes of the current MD drivers access the Georgetown Pike entrance. They would have the same or better commute.

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[Anonymous]

Can't wait till Tysons expands even further.