Great article on the direction UVA is heading......

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of schools in Virginia to serve the unwashed masses. UVA doesn’t need to be one of them.

Bitch.

Wahhh! My low stats kid was rejected from UVA in favor of a higher stats OOS kid. Pity me!

LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t help that UVA (and that article) constantly refer to the school as THE University. It’s all over that article. They already have a huge chip on their shoulder.

because it is written by a student for the student newspaper. That's all you are getting: one student's viewpoint in the student newspaper, so OF COURSE it is THE University because it's in the Cavalier Daily.

Wrong. That’s how students and alum from UVA refer to the school. It’s not UVA, or Virginia, or school, or college, it’s “the University”. And it’s not campus, it’s “the grounds”. They don’t have freshmen, sophomores, juniors or seniors, it’s first years, second years, third years, fourth years. sounds like you don’t know much about the school if you don’t even know one of the basic reasons people find UVA to be pretentious and fratty.

I find it highly comical that a school newspaper article is making the argument that UVA is becoming more like a private school but uses that vocabulary, which was already doing that job.

I actually don't find the terms " the grounds" or " 1st years, etc" to be pretentious. Referring to it at "the University" is obnoxious.

Guys, please realize this opinion piece was written by UVA students for other UVA students and the UVA community. Within UVA, it is referred to as the University. They have the Grounds and the Lawn. All colleges have similar traditions, nicknames, etc. I don't think this is obnoxious.

Agree. A nineteen year old twit wrote the piece for the student newspaper, The Daily Cavalier. OP wants to stir the pot because her kids didn't get in. Of COURSE, he refers to it as "the University" the same way my college would have referred to itself as "the college" in its own student newspaper.

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Wow, the sock puppet is strong in this thread.

And LOL to the poster who makes the argument there are no preppy people in Virginia. So funny.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure what their long term goals are, but my senior knows of several students who got into UVA and we’re denied at Vt. I feel like UVA has gotten too big for its britches and it’s about to be knocked down a notch

Knocked down a notch? How so? They are the strong favorite to win the NCAA men’s basketball championship.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t help that UVA (and that article) constantly refer to the school as THE University. It’s all over that article. They already have a huge chip on their shoulder.

because it is written by a student for the student newspaper. That's all you are getting: one student's viewpoint in the student newspaper, so OF COURSE it is THE University because it's in the Cavalier Daily.

Wrong. That’s how students and alum from UVA refer to the school. It’s not UVA, or Virginia, or school, or college, it’s “the University”. And it’s not campus, it’s “the grounds”. They don’t have freshmen, sophomores, juniors or seniors, it’s first years, second years, third years, fourth years. sounds like you don’t know much about the school if you don’t even know one of the basic reasons people find UVA to be pretentious and fratty.

I find it highly comical that a school newspaper article is making the argument that UVA is becoming more like a private school but uses that vocabulary, which was already doing that job.

I actually don't find the terms " the grounds" or " 1st years, etc" to be pretentious. Referring to it at "the University" is obnoxious.

Guys, please realize this opinion piece was written by UVA students for other UVA students and the UVA community. Within UVA, it is referred to as the University. They have the Grounds and the Lawn. All colleges have similar traditions, nicknames, etc. I don't think this is obnoxious.

Agree. A nineteen year old twit wrote the piece for the student newspaper, The Daily Cavalier. OP wants to stir the pot because her kids didn't get in. Of COURSE, he refers to it as "the University" the same way my college would have referred to itself as "the college" in its own student newspaper.

Actually both of my children got into much better schools than UVA.

I shared the article here because I thought it presented an interesting perspective on the mission of state schools vs. private universities.

What is so objectionable in the article that you feel the need to insult it's author?

Why don't you and others believe that a 19 year old can offer a valid and worthwhile opinion?

If anything, this thread has exposed the nature of UVA families and I'd be embarrassed by what it says about you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure what their long term goals are, but my senior knows of several students who got into UVA and we’re denied at Vt. I feel like UVA has gotten too big for its britches and it’s about to be knocked down a notch[/quote]

Knocked down a notch? How so? They are the strong favorite to win the NCAA men’s basketball championship.

It is a bizarre comment. Someone didn't get in.

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In the 90s, some very good instates genuinely struggled over whether to go to UVA or William and Mary. It’s a matter of personal preference. George Mason was essentially open admission. Or felt like it. But I didn’t know one person who went to VT who hadn’t been humiliatingly rejected by UVA. Seriously: people would laugh about it in Physics class.

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Anonymous wrote:When I took trips from my Ivy to visit some of the 30-plus kids from high school going to UVA years ago it didn’t seem all that preppy to me. I mean lots of kids lived off campus in fairly basic apartments and the fraternity scene seemed very State U.

I can only surmise some of these comments are a reaction to its having become more selective over the years.

I was visiting the school about two years ago and couldn't believe the number of guys I saw wearing pastel polo shirts. That's really not the type of thing you see on other college campuses.

Not true. I wish bitter parents and students who did not get in would take their angst elsewhere. It's not fair to UVA's volunteer Board of Trustees, faculty or students to make such broad assertions. UVA can't be preppy because 2/3 of the students come from Virginia.

It’s not true that I saw a ton of guys in pastel polos? And what the hell does the fact that 2/3 of the students are from Virginia have to do with whether they are preppy or not?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure what their long term goals are, but my senior knows of several students who got into UVA and we’re denied at Vt. I feel like UVA has gotten too big for its britches and it’s about to be knocked down a notch[/quote]

Knocked down a notch? How so? They are the strong favorite to win the NCAA men’s basketball championship.

It is a bizarre comment. Someone didn't get in.

Mr. Jefferson was a vigorous proponent of athletic endeavors.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t help that UVA (and that article) constantly refer to the school as THE University. It’s all over that article. They already have a huge chip on their shoulder.

because it is written by a student for the student newspaper. That's all you are getting: one student's viewpoint in the student newspaper, so OF COURSE it is THE University because it's in the Cavalier Daily.

Wrong. That’s how students and alum from UVA refer to the school. It’s not UVA, or Virginia, or school, or college, it’s “the University”. And it’s not campus, it’s “the grounds”. They don’t have freshmen, sophomores, juniors or seniors, it’s first years, second years, third years, fourth years. sounds like you don’t know much about the school if you don’t even know one of the basic reasons people find UVA to be pretentious and fratty.

I find it highly comical that a school newspaper article is making the argument that UVA is becoming more like a private school but uses that vocabulary, which was already doing that job.

I actually don't find the terms " the grounds" or " 1st years, etc" to be pretentious. Referring to it at "the University" is obnoxious.

Guys, please realize this opinion piece was written by UVA students for other UVA students and the UVA community. Within UVA, it is referred to as the University. They have the Grounds and the Lawn. All colleges have similar traditions, nicknames, etc. I don't think this is obnoxious.

Agree. A nineteen year old twit wrote the piece for the student newspaper, The Daily Cavalier. OP wants to stir the pot because her kids didn't get in. Of COURSE, he refers to it as "the University" the same way my college would have referred to itself as "the college" in its own student newspaper.

Actually both of my children got into much better schools than UVA.

I shared the article here because I thought it presented an interesting perspective on the mission of state schools vs. private universities.

What is so objectionable in the article that you feel the need to insult it's author?

Why don't you and others believe that a 19 year old can offer a valid and worthwhile opinion?

If anything, this thread has exposed the nature of UVA families and I'd be embarrassed by what it says about you.

What does it say about you? You post a piece by a student author from a school paper and announce "Great article on the direction UVA is heading . . . ". Do you even check sources and authors before reposting? Didn't you have a clue it was a student piece? Didn't it strike you odd that the article was not about "the direction UVA is heading", but that's your caption? Yes, I find it objectionable because it is factually incorrect and the student author has no sense of what an endowment is or how it works. The author clearly didn't even know the history behind UVA's endowment and why it is remarkable for a state-run university to have one so large in Virginia. He also didn't mention Questbridge or AccessUVA or any of the other programs that help low-income, poor, and rural kids to attend UVA. So, yes, I think you are stirring the pot.

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Anonymous wrote:When I took trips from my Ivy to visit some of the 30-plus kids from high school going to UVA years ago it didn’t seem all that preppy to me. I mean lots of kids lived off campus in fairly basic apartments and the fraternity scene seemed very State U.

I can only surmise some of these comments are a reaction to its having become more selective over the years.

I was visiting the school about two years ago and couldn't believe the number of guys I saw wearing pastel polo shirts. That's really not the type of thing you see on other college campuses.

Not true. I wish bitter parents and students who did not get in would take their angst elsewhere. It's not fair to UVA's volunteer Board of Trustees, faculty or students to make such broad assertions. UVA can't be preppy because 2/3 of the students come from Virginia.

It’s not true that I saw a ton of guys in pastel polos? And what the hell does the fact that 2/3 of the students are from Virginia have to do with whether they are preppy or not?

Virginians aren't pretty. There might be four or five of them at Potomac but that's it. It's absurd to call UVA students "preppy". Maybe attractive, wealthy from NoVA, FCPS, but not preppy.

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Anonymous wrote:In the 90s, some very good instates genuinely struggled over whether to go to UVA or William and Mary. It’s a matter of personal preference. George Mason was essentially open admission. Or felt like it. But I didn’t know one person who went to VT who hadn’t been humiliatingly rejected by UVA. Seriously: people would laugh about it in Physics class.

There have always been kids interested in engineering who chose Tech over UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:In the 90s, some very good instates genuinely struggled over whether to go to UVA or William and Mary. It’s a matter of personal preference. George Mason was essentially open admission. Or felt like it. But I didn’t know one person who went to VT who hadn’t been humiliatingly rejected by UVA. Seriously: people would laugh about it in Physics class. [/quote]


I'm sure that's true. And someone here is still bitter about being rejected.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, the sock puppet is strong in this thread.

And LOL to the poster who makes the argument there are no preppy people in Virginia. So funny.

Please tell me where they are. My kids went to McLean High School. They don't dress preppy there. Maybe Potomac but I don't have a child there. If there are any preppies at UVA they are from the northeast.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I took trips from my Ivy to visit some of the 30-plus kids from high school going to UVA years ago it didn’t seem all that preppy to me. I mean lots of kids lived off campus in fairly basic apartments and the fraternity scene seemed very State U.

I can only surmise some of these comments are a reaction to its having become more selective over the years.

I was visiting the school about two years ago and couldn't believe the number of guys I saw wearing pastel polo shirts. That's really not the type of thing you see on other college campuses.

Not true. I wish bitter parents and students who did not get in would take their angst elsewhere. It's not fair to UVA's volunteer Board of Trustees, faculty or students to make such broad assertions. UVA can't be preppy because 2/3 of the students come from Virginia.

It’s not true that I saw a ton of guys in pastel polos? And what the hell does the fact that 2/3 of the students are from Virginia have to do with whether they are preppy or not?

Virginians aren't pretty. There might be four or five of them at Potomac but that's it. It's absurd to call UVA students "preppy". Maybe attractive, wealthy from NoVA, FCPS, but not preppy.

You are using an extremely narrow definition of preppy. Outside of the NE, the term is useid to describe people who dress in a certain aesthetic. I think you know that.