Women-do you like short men?

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Anonymous wrote:Some one above called those of us who prefer tall men shallow. I disagree. I call it biology. We are wired that way. I only dated tall guys because on a primitive animal level I wanted healthy attractive children. My son is in second grade. People always mistake him for being much older due to his height. He is taller than some fourth graders. The added bonus is that he we be less likley to be bullied which is good because he is quiet.

There was a study done with kindergarten teachers. They perceive tall boys as being smarter. Tall men also make more money.

You might not like it but society in general prefers taller men. It is no different than men preferring thin women.

Short men come off feminine to me and they are usually nasty shrews.

I like tall men because I think they would be better protectors also. Height is a huge advantage in a fight, and unfortunately as women, our safety and protection is something we have been raised our whole life (necessarily) to be aware and hyper vigilant about

I was not raised to be aware of safety or hypervigilant at all. Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe or that I was in need of protection. I have traveled the world lived alone, walked to and from work at late hours (worked shift work), and never had a problem at all. I wasn't raised to see fear around every corner (my parents didn't conceptualize female as weak or victim at all) and so I haven't lived my life through that lens. Bad things can happen to anyone, either due to randomness (nothing you could do about it anyways ) or poor decisions (you could have made better choices).

That would be great if we lived in a fantasy world. I have travelled the world alone too, walked to and from work, the grocery store, etc, and I am still aware that because of my sex- female- I am a target. I'm also aware that because of my diminished size and muscular/due structure, due to being female, it's harder for me to fight back on a physical level. This is called being a rational human being.

I guess I live in a fantasy world then! To me it is a choice to choose to go through life seeing yourself as a target or a victim in waiting. Of course then the world is scary because every fast footstep, every shadow, ever side glance is danger, danger. It just isn't how I live my life. How often in your life have you had to physically fight back? If it is often, you likely live a very different life than I do. Trying to protect myself in physical fights isn't something that is even part of my life or that I ever think about.

Good. Maybe you grew up very protected. I grew up in DC, my parents both grew up in major cities, and my mom always urged me to be vigilant, aware of my surroundings, and aware of risk. If you want to go through life blissfully unaware of risk... knock yourself out! I'll continue to do what I feel is smart and certainly won't be shamed for it. I like being alive, and I'm aware of the risks posed at me by virtue of being an attractive woman. I think most other women are too.

I didn't grow up in an neighborhood where violence and protection was needed for survival. I am sure if I had lived somewhere where I had to physically fight to survive, I would feel differently. I haven't lived a protective life but I did grow up in a safe neighborhood. More men die from homicide and are physically assaulted than women, so I don't think being smaller / bigger is a protection of any kind. I am also not sure there is really any evidence that being attractive puts you at higher risk of being attacked. Again I haven't lived anywhere where fending off attackers is part of my daily life so I can't say how I would feel in that scenario.

I didn't grow up anywhere where I had to psychically fight to survive. But I am aware of the risks of urban life, which you seem to be blissfully unaware of. Men have the capability of fighting back, the reality of the biological differences between men and women means it's much harder for women to do so. Sounds like you have gone through life with the wool over your eyes which is perfectly fine. Do you. I'm grateful for the generations of urban dwellers who gave me street smarts and awareness. You sound like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

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Anonymous wrote:Some one above called those of us who prefer tall men shallow. I disagree. I call it biology. We are wired that way. I only dated tall guys because on a primitive animal level I wanted healthy attractive children. My son is in second grade. People always mistake him for being much older due to his height. He is taller than some fourth graders. The added bonus is that he we be less likley to be bullied which is good because he is quiet.

There was a study done with kindergarten teachers. They perceive tall boys as being smarter. Tall men also make more money.

You might not like it but society in general prefers taller men. It is no different than men preferring thin women.

Short men come off feminine to me and they are usually nasty shrews.

I like tall men because I think they would be better protectors also. Height is a huge advantage in a fight, and unfortunately as women, our safety and protection is something we have been raised our whole life (necessarily) to be aware and hyper vigilant about

I was not raised to be aware of safety or hypervigilant at all. Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe or that I was in need of protection. I have traveled the world lived alone, walked to and from work at late hours (worked shift work), and never had a problem at all. I wasn't raised to see fear around every corner (my parents didn't conceptualize female as weak or victim at all) and so I haven't lived my life through that lens. Bad things can happen to anyone, either due to randomness (nothing you could do about it anyways ) or poor decisions (you could have made better choices).

That would be great if we lived in a fantasy world. I have travelled the world alone too, walked to and from work, the grocery store, etc, and I am still aware that because of my sex- female- I am a target. I'm also aware that because of my diminished size and muscular/due structure, due to being female, it's harder for me to fight back on a physical level. This is called being a rational human being.

I guess I live in a fantasy world then! To me it is a choice to choose to go through life seeing yourself as a target or a victim in waiting. Of course then the world is scary because every fast footstep, every shadow, ever side glance is danger, danger. It just isn't how I live my life. How often in your life have you had to physically fight back? If it is often, you likely live a very different life than I do. Trying to protect myself in physical fights isn't something that is even part of my life or that I ever think about.

Good. Maybe you grew up very protected. I grew up in DC, my parents both grew up in major cities, and my mom always urged me to be vigilant, aware of my surroundings, and aware of risk. If you want to go through life blissfully unaware of risk... knock yourself out! I'll continue to do what I feel is smart and certainly won't be shamed for it. I like being alive, and I'm aware of the risks posed at me by virtue of being an attractive woman. I think most other women are too.

I didn't grow up in an neighborhood where violence and protection was needed for survival. I am sure if I had lived somewhere where I had to physically fight to survive, I would feel differently. I haven't lived a protective life but I did grow up in a safe neighborhood. More men die from homicide and are physically assaulted than women, so I don't think being smaller / bigger is a protection of any kind. I am also not sure there is really any evidence that being attractive puts you at higher risk of being attacked. Again I haven't lived anywhere where fending off attackers is part of my daily life so I can't say how I would feel in that scenario.

I didn't grow up anywhere where I had to psychically fight to survive. But I am aware of the risks of urban life, which you seem to be blissfully unaware of. Men have the capability of fighting back, the reality of the biological differences between men and women means it's much harder for women to do so. Sounds like you have gone through life with the wool over your eyes which is perfectly fine. Do you. I'm grateful for the generations of urban dwellers who gave me street smarts and awareness. You sound like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

How often have those risks materialized for you in your urban setting? How often have you had to fight back?

Everyone should be aware of their surroundings and use street smarts, there is risk to everyone. That is different than going through life hyper vigilant and aware of a fear of being weak in a physical fight. I don't have wool over my eyes, I just have a different mindset / approach to life than you do.

Men come in all shapes and sizes and strengths. Hence why they are more likely to be victims of homicide.They also are really no match for weapons. The idea that a man should be your protection is really kind of sexist. Men die from being attacked more often than women.

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Anonymous wrote:Like 5'8" and under?? Lets discuss...

I like them 5'11" and taller.

Honestly, I have a strong preference for tall men. My DH is 6'2. Previous partners tended to be in the 6-6'3" range. One short previous partner.

1) I'm from a family of tall men. I'm sure a lot of my subconscious concepts of masculinity are formed from a childhood of big brawny men.
2) I like to wear heels. I'm barely average height for a U.S. born non-Asian woman, so I appreciate heels for both fashion and the confidence boost. In my experience, few short men felt comfortable if I towered over them in heels.
3) I was previously married to a short man (who claimed to be 5'9", but was 5'7" in shoes) and he embodied most of the nastier personality traits of small dog syndrome. I've met a few short men who were comfortable and confident, but not most. Kevin Hart pulls it off really well.

I have no problem with men who have a strong preference for thin women, although I haven't been thin for eight years. I think that physical attraction is really important in dating and in sustaining a relationship.

--curvy, short woman married to a tall, fit man.

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Anonymous wrote:Some one above called those of us who prefer tall men shallow. I disagree. I call it biology. We are wired that way. I only dated tall guys because on a primitive animal level I wanted healthy attractive children. My son is in second grade. People always mistake him for being much older due to his height. He is taller than some fourth graders. The added bonus is that he we be less likley to be bullied which is good because he is quiet.

There was a study done with kindergarten teachers. They perceive tall boys as being smarter. Tall men also make more money.

You might not like it but society in general prefers taller men. It is no different than men preferring thin women.

Short men come off feminine to me and they are usually nasty shrews.

I like tall men because I think they would be better protectors also. Height is a huge advantage in a fight, and unfortunately as women, our safety and protection is something we have been raised our whole life (necessarily) to be aware and hyper vigilant about

I was not raised to be aware of safety or hypervigilant at all. Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe or that I was in need of protection. I have traveled the world lived alone, walked to and from work at late hours (worked shift work), and never had a problem at all. I wasn't raised to see fear around every corner (my parents didn't conceptualize female as weak or victim at all) and so I haven't lived my life through that lens. Bad things can happen to anyone, either due to randomness (nothing you could do about it anyways ) or poor decisions (you could have made better choices).

That would be great if we lived in a fantasy world. I have travelled the world alone too, walked to and from work, the grocery store, etc, and I am still aware that because of my sex- female- I am a target. I'm also aware that because of my diminished size and muscular/due structure, due to being female, it's harder for me to fight back on a physical level. This is called being a rational human being.

I guess I live in a fantasy world then! To me it is a choice to choose to go through life seeing yourself as a target or a victim in waiting. Of course then the world is scary because every fast footstep, every shadow, ever side glance is danger, danger. It just isn't how I live my life. How often in your life have you had to physically fight back? If it is often, you likely live a very different life than I do. Trying to protect myself in physical fights isn't something that is even part of my life or that I ever think about.

Good. Maybe you grew up very protected. I grew up in DC, my parents both grew up in major cities, and my mom always urged me to be vigilant, aware of my surroundings, and aware of risk. If you want to go through life blissfully unaware of risk... knock yourself out! I'll continue to do what I feel is smart and certainly won't be shamed for it. I like being alive, and I'm aware of the risks posed at me by virtue of being an attractive woman. I think most other women are too.

I didn't grow up in an neighborhood where violence and protection was needed for survival. I am sure if I had lived somewhere where I had to physically fight to survive, I would feel differently. I haven't lived a protective life but I did grow up in a safe neighborhood. More men die from homicide and are physically assaulted than women, so I don't think being smaller / bigger is a protection of any kind. I am also not sure there is really any evidence that being attractive puts you at higher risk of being attacked. Again I haven't lived anywhere where fending off attackers is part of my daily life so I can't say how I would feel in that scenario.

I didn't grow up anywhere where I had to psychically fight to survive. But I am aware of the risks of urban life, which you seem to be blissfully unaware of. Men have the capability of fighting back, the reality of the biological differences between men and women means it's much harder for women to do so. Sounds like you have gone through life with the wool over your eyes which is perfectly fine. Do you. I'm grateful for the generations of urban dwellers who gave me street smarts and awareness. You sound like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

How often have those risks materialized for you in your urban setting? How often have you had to fight back?

Everyone should be aware of their surroundings and use street smarts, there is risk to everyone. That is different than going through life hyper vigilant and aware of a fear of being weak in a physical fight. I don't have wool over my eyes, I just have a different mindset / approach to life than you do.

Men come in all shapes and sizes and strengths. Hence why they are more likely to be victims of homicide.They also are really no match for weapons. The idea that a man should be your protection is really kind of sexist. Men die from being attacked more often than women.

Several times, and countless times where I'm sure I have avoided risky situations simply because of my innate situational awareness.

You say "everyone should be aware of their surroundings and use street smarts, there is risk to everyone." And yet you literally tried to claim that "I was not raised to be aware of safety... Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe."

I guess it's good that you've seen the error of your (ridiculous) statement, but it's a bit strange to suddenly reverse your position in the middle of an argument without conceding.

"Men come in all shapes and sizes and strengths"- agreed, which is why I want a tall one who can protect me. I don't care if it's sexist considering the fact that I am a target for rape simply by virtue of having a vagina. Where it not for the sexism of targeting women for sexual violence, I wouldn't have to seek a man for protection. You can bet I found me a tall one.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with having physical preferences. Men do too!

I trust that all of you "hell no" responders have remained the same weight (thin) as when you were dating? If not, you (more than most) deserve to be traded in for a thinner model.

I basically said hell no and I wasn't thin when I met and married my 6'2", fit DH. Not thin now either. And yet, we are really happy. I am definitely happier than when I was thin and married to my short ex-DH.

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Anonymous wrote:Short guys tend to be mean, like yippy dogs.

+1 Great analogy. And I hate yippy dogs.

This is so true. I teach middle school and the short boys are the whiny criers. The tall boys are always the alpha and commamd respect. They just have a presence.

I also teach MS and a disagree somewhat.

A LOT, like may 70% of my short boys were preemies and have special needs. Typically ADHD, but also OHI. Many were on meds as infants and young kids that stunted their appetite and delayed puberty. They aren't simply short and whiny. They have other issues that present challenges socially.

About 10% of my short boys are real charmers. They have a lot of charisma and a great sense of humor. Height probably won't hold them back much.

That leaves 20%, classic chip on my shoulder, whiny short boys.

Roughly half of my tall boys are incredibly immature and very awkward in their adult sized bodies. The other half sailed through the first growth spurt back in ES and know how to move around better than a bull in a china shop. Only half of those have the emotional maturity to match though.

At this age, the girls are just light years ahead due to biology.

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Anonymous wrote:Short guys tend to be mean, like yippy dogs.

+1 Great analogy. And I hate yippy dogs.

This is so true. I teach middle school and the short boys are the whiny criers. The tall boys are always the alpha and commamd respect. They just have a presence.

I also teach MS and a disagree somewhat.

A LOT, like may 70% of my short boys were preemies and have special needs. Typically ADHD, but also OHI. Many were on meds as infants and young kids that stunted their appetite and delayed puberty. They aren't simply short and whiny. They have other issues that present challenges socially.

About 10% of my short boys are real charmers. They have a lot of charisma and a great sense of humor. Height probably won't hold them back much.

That leaves 20%, classic chip on my shoulder, whiny short boys.

Roughly half of my tall boys are incredibly immature and very awkward in their adult sized bodies. The other half sailed through the first growth spurt back in ES and know how to move around better than a bull in a china shop. Only half of those have the emotional maturity to match though.

At this age, the girls are just light years ahead due to biology.

I don't disagree but women in general do not like short men. Most women on this board agree. My friends prefer tall men. We are talking physical attraction. Sur eshort guys have a great personality. They can be my friend. I don't want tondate them.

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Anonymous wrote:Short guys tend to be mean, like yippy dogs.

+1 Great analogy. And I hate yippy dogs.

This is so true. I teach middle school and the short boys are the whiny criers. The tall boys are always the alpha and commamd respect. They just have a presence.

I also teach MS and a disagree somewhat.

A LOT, like may 70% of my short boys were preemies and have special needs. Typically ADHD, but also OHI. Many were on meds as infants and young kids that stunted their appetite and delayed puberty. They aren't simply short and whiny. They have other issues that present challenges socially.

About 10% of my short boys are real charmers. They have a lot of charisma and a great sense of humor. Height probably won't hold them back much.

That leaves 20%, classic chip on my shoulder, whiny short boys.

Roughly half of my tall boys are incredibly immature and very awkward in their adult sized bodies. The other half sailed through the first growth spurt back in ES and know how to move around better than a bull in a china shop. Only half of those have the emotional maturity to match though.

At this age, the girls are just light years ahead due to biology.

I don't disagree but women in general do not like short men. Most women on this board agree. My friends prefer tall men. We are talking physical attraction. Sur eshort guys have a great personality. They can be my friend. I don't want tondate them.

Hey, I don't date short men either, but these are my observations from decades of teaching.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard that 6'0 and over is the most successful.

+1

Truth. Tall also is synonymous with bigger package!

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Anonymous wrote:Some one above called those of us who prefer tall men shallow. I disagree. I call it biology. We are wired that way. I only dated tall guys because on a primitive animal level I wanted healthy attractive children. My son is in second grade. People always mistake him for being much older due to his height. He is taller than some fourth graders. The added bonus is that he we be less likley to be bullied which is good because he is quiet.

There was a study done with kindergarten teachers. They perceive tall boys as being smarter. Tall men also make more money.

You might not like it but society in general prefers taller men. It is no different than men preferring thin women.

Short men come off feminine to me and they are usually nasty shrews.

I like tall men because I think they would be better protectors also. Height is a huge advantage in a fight, and unfortunately as women, our safety and protection is something we have been raised our whole life (necessarily) to be aware and hyper vigilant about

I was not raised to be aware of safety or hypervigilant at all. Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe or that I was in need of protection. I have traveled the world lived alone, walked to and from work at late hours (worked shift work), and never had a problem at all. I wasn't raised to see fear around every corner (my parents didn't conceptualize female as weak or victim at all) and so I haven't lived my life through that lens. Bad things can happen to anyone, either due to randomness (nothing you could do about it anyways ) or poor decisions (you could have made better choices).

That would be great if we lived in a fantasy world. I have travelled the world alone too, walked to and from work, the grocery store, etc, and I am still aware that because of my sex- female- I am a target. I'm also aware that because of my diminished size and muscular/due structure, due to being female, it's harder for me to fight back on a physical level. This is called being a rational human being.

I guess I live in a fantasy world then! To me it is a choice to choose to go through life seeing yourself as a target or a victim in waiting. Of course then the world is scary because every fast footstep, every shadow, ever side glance is danger, danger. It just isn't how I live my life. How often in your life have you had to physically fight back? If it is often, you likely live a very different life than I do. Trying to protect myself in physical fights isn't something that is even part of my life or that I ever think about.

Good. Maybe you grew up very protected. I grew up in DC, my parents both grew up in major cities, and my mom always urged me to be vigilant, aware of my surroundings, and aware of risk. If you want to go through life blissfully unaware of risk... knock yourself out! I'll continue to do what I feel is smart and certainly won't be shamed for it. I like being alive, and I'm aware of the risks posed at me by virtue of being an attractive woman. I think most other women are too.

I didn't grow up in an neighborhood where violence and protection was needed for survival. I am sure if I had lived somewhere where I had to physically fight to survive, I would feel differently. I haven't lived a protective life but I did grow up in a safe neighborhood. More men die from homicide and are physically assaulted than women, so I don't think being smaller / bigger is a protection of any kind. I am also not sure there is really any evidence that being attractive puts you at higher risk of being attacked. Again I haven't lived anywhere where fending off attackers is part of my daily life so I can't say how I would feel in that scenario.

I didn't grow up anywhere where I had to psychically fight to survive. But I am aware of the risks of urban life, which you seem to be blissfully unaware of. Men have the capability of fighting back, the reality of the biological differences between men and women means it's much harder for women to do so. Sounds like you have gone through life with the wool over your eyes which is perfectly fine. Do you. I'm grateful for the generations of urban dwellers who gave me street smarts and awareness. You sound like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

How often have those risks materialized for you in your urban setting? How often have you had to fight back?

Everyone should be aware of their surroundings and use street smarts, there is risk to everyone. That is different than going through life hyper vigilant and aware of a fear of being weak in a physical fight. I don't have wool over my eyes, I just have a different mindset / approach to life than you do.

Men come in all shapes and sizes and strengths. Hence why they are more likely to be victims of homicide.They also are really no match for weapons. The idea that a man should be your protection is really kind of sexist. Men die from being attacked more often than women.

Several times, and countless times where I'm sure I have avoided risky situations simply because of my innate situational awareness.

You say "everyone should be aware of their surroundings and use street smarts, there is risk to everyone." And yet you literally tried to claim that "I was not raised to be aware of safety... Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe."

I guess it's good that you've seen the error of your (ridiculous) statement, but it's a bit strange to suddenly reverse your position in the middle of an argument without conceding.

"Men come in all shapes and sizes and strengths"- agreed, which is why I want a tall one who can protect me. I don't care if it's sexist considering the fact that I am a target for rape simply by virtue of having a vagina. Where it not for the sexism of targeting women for sexual violence, I wouldn't have to seek a man for protection. You can bet I found me a tall one.

I'm not reversing my statements. There is a difference between looking both ways before crossing a street, and living my life in a state of hypervigilence because every man I see is a dangerous attacker and I need to be prepared to physically defend myself so I need the tallest man because i see him as winning the most fights to defend me.

You really think that women with shorter husbands get raped more often?

I am sorry you live somewhere that you have to fight for your life often. I can see why you are terrified of the world around you given that kind of traumatic experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Some one above called those of us who prefer tall men shallow. I disagree. I call it biology. We are wired that way. I only dated tall guys because on a primitive animal level I wanted healthy attractive children. My son is in second grade. People always mistake him for being much older due to his height. He is taller than some fourth graders. The added bonus is that he we be less likley to be bullied which is good because he is quiet.

There was a study done with kindergarten teachers. They perceive tall boys as being smarter. Tall men also make more money.

You might not like it but society in general prefers taller men. It is no different than men preferring thin women.

Short men come off feminine to me and they are usually nasty shrews.

I like tall men because I think they would be better protectors also. Height is a huge advantage in a fight, and unfortunately as women, our safety and protection is something we have been raised our whole life (necessarily) to be aware and hyper vigilant about

I was not raised to be aware of safety or hypervigilant at all. Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe or that I was in need of protection. I have traveled the world lived alone, walked to and from work at late hours (worked shift work), and never had a problem at all. I wasn't raised to see fear around every corner (my parents didn't conceptualize female as weak or victim at all) and so I haven't lived my life through that lens. Bad things can happen to anyone, either due to randomness (nothing you could do about it anyways ) or poor decisions (you could have made better choices).

That would be great if we lived in a fantasy world. I have travelled the world alone too, walked to and from work, the grocery store, etc, and I am still aware that because of my sex- female- I am a target. I'm also aware that because of my diminished size and muscular/due structure, due to being female, it's harder for me to fight back on a physical level. This is called being a rational human being.

I guess I live in a fantasy world then! To me it is a choice to choose to go through life seeing yourself as a target or a victim in waiting. Of course then the world is scary because every fast footstep, every shadow, ever side glance is danger, danger. It just isn't how I live my life. How often in your life have you had to physically fight back? If it is often, you likely live a very different life than I do. Trying to protect myself in physical fights isn't something that is even part of my life or that I ever think about.

Good. Maybe you grew up very protected. I grew up in DC, my parents both grew up in major cities, and my mom always urged me to be vigilant, aware of my surroundings, and aware of risk. If you want to go through life blissfully unaware of risk... knock yourself out! I'll continue to do what I feel is smart and certainly won't be shamed for it. I like being alive, and I'm aware of the risks posed at me by virtue of being an attractive woman. I think most other women are too.

I didn't grow up in an neighborhood where violence and protection was needed for survival. I am sure if I had lived somewhere where I had to physically fight to survive, I would feel differently. I haven't lived a protective life but I did grow up in a safe neighborhood. More men die from homicide and are physically assaulted than women, so I don't think being smaller / bigger is a protection of any kind. I am also not sure there is really any evidence that being attractive puts you at higher risk of being attacked. Again I haven't lived anywhere where fending off attackers is part of my daily life so I can't say how I would feel in that scenario.

I didn't grow up anywhere where I had to psychically fight to survive. But I am aware of the risks of urban life, which you seem to be blissfully unaware of. Men have the capability of fighting back, the reality of the biological differences between men and women means it's much harder for women to do so. Sounds like you have gone through life with the wool over your eyes which is perfectly fine. Do you. I'm grateful for the generations of urban dwellers who gave me street smarts and awareness. You sound like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

How often have those risks materialized for you in your urban setting? How often have you had to fight back?

Everyone should be aware of their surroundings and use street smarts, there is risk to everyone. That is different than going through life hyper vigilant and aware of a fear of being weak in a physical fight. I don't have wool over my eyes, I just have a different mindset / approach to life than you do.

Men come in all shapes and sizes and strengths. Hence why they are more likely to be victims of homicide.They also are really no match for weapons. The idea that a man should be your protection is really kind of sexist. Men die from being attacked more often than women.

Several times, and countless times where I'm sure I have avoided risky situations simply because of my innate situational awareness.

You say "everyone should be aware of their surroundings and use street smarts, there is risk to everyone." And yet you literally tried to claim that "I was not raised to be aware of safety... Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe."

I guess it's good that you've seen the error of your (ridiculous) statement, but it's a bit strange to suddenly reverse your position in the middle of an argument without conceding.

"Men come in all shapes and sizes and strengths"- agreed, which is why I want a tall one who can protect me. I don't care if it's sexist considering the fact that I am a target for rape simply by virtue of having a vagina. Where it not for the sexism of targeting women for sexual violence, I wouldn't have to seek a man for protection. You can bet I found me a tall one.

I'm not reversing my statements. There is a difference between looking both ways before crossing a street, and living my life in a state of hypervigilence because every man I see is a dangerous attacker and I need to be prepared to physically defend myself so I need the tallest man because i see him as winning the most fights to defend me.

You really think that women with shorter husbands get raped more often?

I am sorry you live somewhere that you have to fight for your life often. I can see why you are terrified of the world around you given that kind of traumatic experience.

You are reversing your statements. You literally claimed that "Nor in my 40 years of life have I ever felt that I was unsafe." So you've never felt unsafe once? What's the point of looking both ways to cross the street then?

If you really want to stand by your original (ludicrous) statements, then you would have to live in the most bubble, Pleasantville, Mayberry place on the planet. Certainly not relevant to the denizens of DC or the metropolitan crowd that makes up most of DCUM's commentators.

Please point out where I said "women with shorter husbands get raped more often". You seem to absolutely unravelling. Perhaps because after reading this thread you realize no one is into your man.

Get some psychological help.

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Height has nothing to do with a woman's independence or a man's intellect. Women are hard wired to find masculinity attractive. It is sexy when a man can pick you up and toss you on a bed. Even if you do not need protecting, it is sexy to be with a strong man. I have never met a woman who said she preferred short men. Sure she might meet a short guy and accept him just like a man who prefers thin women might settle for chubby due to personality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Height has nothing to do with a woman's independence or a man's intellect. Women are hard wired to find masculinity attractive. It is sexy when a man can pick you up and toss you on a bed. Even if you do not need protecting, it is sexy to be with a strong man. I have never met a woman who said she preferred short men. Sure she might meet a short guy and accept him just like a man who prefers thin women might settle for chubby due to personality.

You might find it sexy to be with a physically strong man. I find it sexy to be with a clever man and successful - they tend to have all the things im looking for.

Im not saying that a preference for tall men is at all wrong. It seems to be the default for a lot of average women just like a lot of average men prefer blondes. Fact of life.

I consider myself lucky that im not average and not looking for an average man.

For the moms of short sons - height is not a deal breaker for some women. Please give your sons the confidence that they will find someone nice. Yes the pool is smaller but it probably also filled with nicer (and above average) women.