Is Trump going to resign?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think the Afghanistan announcement was a cover, of course. When has the WH ever released any statement that's close to the truth? And, if they were discussing Afghanistan strategy, wouldn't they do it in secret?

Why Camp David? Trump hates the place. He visited once. Don't think it even has a decent golf course (does it have one at all?)

Why is Pence returning early to discuss Afghanistan with Trump at Camp David?

My guess: Mueller has some very, very dirty stuff on Trump. Subpoenas have gone out. Mueller wants to speak to current WH officials. Mueller has turned up the heat on Trump, and the Orange Grifter wants out.

So, my guess is that he recalled Pence to Camp David to negotiate an exit strategy. Pence will become POTUS and immediately pardon Trump and all members of his family for any and all crimes committed in the past and in the future. And Pence will find some way to pardon Trump for all NY crimes too (how, I don't know, but I'm sure there's a loophole for that).

Also, his presidency is starting to affect Trump's bottom line, which, let's face it, is all he cares about. The Cleveland Clinic, the huge fundraiser, American Friends of Magen David Adom, and the American Cancer Society have pulled their big meetings out of Mar A Lago. The chamber of commerce of Palm Beach has urged charities to stay away from Mar A Lago.

Of course, who can predict Trump? I think he wants out, but who knows? Maybe he wants to bomb Afghanistan? Maybe he wants Betsy DeVos's brother to become even richer? Maybe they are discussing North Korea? Maybe he hates transgender people so much he's giving the military official notice that he wants them out of the armed forces?

God, what a mess the Republicans have given us. Why can't they just get rid of this man!!!


Maybe its misdirection and he's taking Air Force One all the way to Moscow, where he will stay

They like gold leaf shit there, too
Anonymous
Well, Trump has been at Camp David for less than an hour, and Bannon is out.

But sure, we all believe it Afghanistan. Or NK. Or South Asia (which is India's clash with China?). WH has released at least 3 statements on why h was there. Great messaging Hope Hicks, BTW. (No one believes this about military strategy.

Now negotiating a resignation vs 25th vs just being slapped around during an intervention-- we shall see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well, Trump has been at Camp David for less than an hour, and Bannon is out.

But sure, we all believe it Afghanistan. Or NK. Or South Asia (which is India's clash with China?). WH has released at least 3 statements on why h was there. Great messaging Hope Hicks, BTW. (No one believes this about military strategy.

Now negotiating a resignation vs 25th vs just being slapped around during an intervention-- we shall see.


Who is at Camp David besides Trump and Pence?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, Trump has been at Camp David for less than an hour, and Bannon is out.

But sure, we all believe it Afghanistan. Or NK. Or South Asia (which is India's clash with China?). WH has released at least 3 statements on why h was there. Great messaging Hope Hicks, BTW. (No one believes this about military strategy.

Now negotiating a resignation vs 25th vs just being slapped around during an intervention-- we shall see.


Who is at Camp David besides Trump and Pence?


Mattis is there. Let's hope Erik Prince isn't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, Trump has been at Camp David for less than an hour, and Bannon is out.

But sure, we all believe it Afghanistan. Or NK. Or South Asia (which is India's clash with China?). WH has released at least 3 statements on why h was there. Great messaging Hope Hicks, BTW. (No one believes this about military strategy.

Now negotiating a resignation vs 25th vs just being slapped around during an intervention-- we shall see.


Who is at Camp David besides Trump and Pence?


Mattis is there. Let's hope Erik Prince isn't.


I hope you're right but could have sworn I read he was there. Will do more digging.
Anonymous
If I were potus I would live in cd full time - wake up every morning, go skeet shooting, trail running, have people commute to see me . Relax in nature and trees.
Anonymous
Here's the list CNN is reporting:

Donald Trump is expected to have a working lunch and a briefing with his national security council once he gets to Camp David. Here are some of the people who will be there:

Vice President Mike Pence
Nick Ayers, Pence's chief of staff
John Kelly, Trump's chief of staff
H.R. McMaster, US national security adviser
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Secretary of Treasury Steve Mnuchin
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke
Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats
CIA Director Mike Pompeo
Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney
US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley (via SVTC)

Ideas? Thoughts?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, Trump has been at Camp David for less than an hour, and Bannon is out.

But sure, we all believe it Afghanistan. Or NK. Or South Asia (which is India's clash with China?). WH has released at least 3 statements on why h was there. Great messaging Hope Hicks, BTW. (No one believes this about military strategy.

Now negotiating a resignation vs 25th vs just being slapped around during an intervention-- we shall see.


Who is at Camp David besides Trump and Pence?


Here's the official released list. Which might or might not be accurate.


https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidWright_CNN/status/898578955246096387/photo/1

One notable exception if this really is a military pow-wow, and especially an NK strategy session-- perry, since the Secretary of Energy, who oversees the nukes.
Anonymous
Erik Prince says his plan will be at today's meeting. Don't know about the man himself:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/afghanistan-camp-david/537324/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's the list CNN is reporting:

Donald Trump is expected to have a working lunch and a briefing with his national security council once he gets to Camp David. Here are some of the people who will be there:

Vice President Mike Pence
Nick Ayers, Pence's chief of staff
John Kelly, Trump's chief of staff
H.R. McMaster, US national security adviser
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Secretary of Treasury Steve Mnuchin
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke
Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats
CIA Director Mike Pompeo
Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney
US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley (via SVTC)

Ideas? Thoughts?


OMB and Homeland Security are not really foreign policy national security players. I have no idea what this is all about, but the president's power in this area is greatest, so some big move may be in the works.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's the list CNN is reporting:

Donald Trump is expected to have a working lunch and a briefing with his national security council once he gets to Camp David. Here are some of the people who will be there:

Vice President Mike Pence
Nick Ayers, Pence's chief of staff
John Kelly, Trump's chief of staff
H.R. McMaster, US national security adviser
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Secretary of Treasury Steve Mnuchin
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke
Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats
CIA Director Mike Pompeo
Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney
US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley (via SVTC)

Ideas? Thoughts?


Well, at least no Erik Prince. Officially anyway.

If they were actually planning his exit strategy, who would you expect to be there that is not on this list?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Erik Prince says his plan will be at today's meeting. Don't know about the man himself:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/afghanistan-camp-david/537324/


Well that's not reassuring.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How/why would he resign? He won't unless he can save face and give himself a forum for plausible, in his mind, deniability.

Trump....

I am resigning because of the relentless, senseless and vitriolic attack that is adversely affecting my family and because I want America to succeed. With what has been happening they aren't going to allow what so many in our nation wanted me to accomplish be successful. So, because I love this great nation and being proud of what we were able to accomplish in spite of.....

No one sees this as a possible exit strategy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's the list CNN is reporting:

Donald Trump is expected to have a working lunch and a briefing with his national security council once he gets to Camp David. Here are some of the people who will be there:

Vice President Mike Pence
Nick Ayers, Pence's chief of staff
John Kelly, Trump's chief of staff
H.R. McMaster, US national security adviser
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Secretary of Treasury Steve Mnuchin
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke
Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats
CIA Director Mike Pompeo
Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney
US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley (via SVTC)

Ideas? Thoughts?


If this list is accurate, Pence and Pence's COS are unusual additions.

And Perry, Secretary of Energy, is an interesting omission-- if this is military, since he has the nukes. And Perry is a statutory member of the NCS. The The Joint Chiefs or the Deputy NSAs should be on the list if this is national security. I have seen the Chairman and Vice Chairman (Dunford and Selva) on an updated list. And one of the Deputy NSA (Waddell, not Powell). I have not seen Perry mentioned anywhere though.

Jared, who apparently has Middle East policy in his portfolio) and the other "Senior Advisors," like KAC also did not make the list.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the list CNN is reporting:

Donald Trump is expected to have a working lunch and a briefing with his national security council once he gets to Camp David. Here are some of the people who will be there:

Vice President Mike Pence
Nick Ayers, Pence's chief of staff
John Kelly, Trump's chief of staff
H.R. McMaster, US national security adviser
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Secretary of Treasury Steve Mnuchin
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke
Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats
CIA Director Mike Pompeo
Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney
US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley (via SVTC)

Ideas? Thoughts?


OMB and Homeland Security are not really foreign policy national security players. I have no idea what this is all about, but the president's power in this area is greatest, so some big move may be in the works.


They aren't, but they are on NSC.
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